Some very, very basic calculations suggest that, with my current level of Angel Investors and upgrades, my 100 Giant Lasers will, using nothing but the money they generate themselves, produce enough cash to procure another 10 Giant Lasers in just a bit over 61 days.
My Oxygen Bar using the same approach as above will go from 640 units to 650 units in just over 114 days.
The moon is not a idle game at this stage, idle games you leave alone over work or sleep, come back and have some progress. No, the Moon is a game at this stage you turn on and go have an accident that puts you in a coma so when you wake up 6 months later at least you have made some progress.
There are glaciers moving faster than the moon progresses at the nonnillion stage. I went away for 150+ hours and reached zero new milestones. I couldn't even go from 100 Giant Lasers to 110 Giant Lasers. Terrible progress rate.
It says alot about how weak Betty Clicker is that being Gilded 3 times, pushing her up to 5 Gilds, she still only produces 0.09% of my DPS and she is current wih her levels.
In related news I just bought a 3 random gilded heroes pack and all I got was a gilded Betty Clicker 3 times in a row.
@Grandchen you are probably overestimating the time, certain ancients can massively alter the timescale and getting the right gilded hero certainly makes parts of the grind sped up at low ascensions.
Personally I'm closing in on 100 ascensions (I ascend every time I'm gifted a gilded hero) where things are bit different - I've got a majority of ancients and that means the only bit that really takes time is going from 700 to ~1000. Before that I'm making money to fast to keep up, the only heroes I buy in less that 100er increments at all are Terra and Pthalo.
I'd certainly grind faster if I maximized using the cooldowns but I'm too lazy.
You should always buy 100 increments of any hero you can, with the absolute last priority going to the first hero - because he's boosted by nothing - and Midas, Betty and the ascension hero also being the last to upgrade as you'll rarely see more of an 0.xx% increase with them.
For the last hero you can buy, the one you won't be getting past this ascension, I'd buy the first 10 level individually as soon as you can, then go with 10 increment till you reach 100 - usually they don't have upgrades between 100 and 200 and so that money is better spend with the other heroes who all get a 264x boost minimum by gaining 100 levels.
Thinking about it, relics should never drop in the same stage twice - I don't see it here because honestly levels 1 to ~ 400 go by fast but on Steam I started recently and there I had the relic ooze as the first monster on level 99, twice. That's kinda shitty for getting better stuff if it repeats more often..
Relics also have itemlevels - I'd be upset if a green level 100 had worse stats than an level 15 Epic. But I do suspect that rarity influences what sort of boost an relic can give.
Another feedback on offline-progess:
a) XP accumulation: Might actually be more in tune with online progress, idled for ~11 hours, got 2 million something XP, let it run for 30 minutes again got 2 million something. That sounds (and is) bad but compared to
b) Gold accumulation, same time as above (obviously), got 1 Platinum and blah Gold out of idle, got 45 Platinum in 30 Minutes (and another 10 while writing this). This seriously out of whack.
And no I didn't spend my idle wealth before letting it run, so no boost from that.
Offline progress remains underwhelming.
Cards - nice gimmick but not really motivating me to prestige. With Angel Investors it's easy to determine when you should reset - once you'll gain at least equal the amount of Angel Investors you already have.
Angel Investors are also straightforward: Each increases my income. Cards by contrast require me to think about abilities and when I plan to use them and... that is just too much work for something I normally in other idle games stop caring after I press the reset button.
Maybe if the old cards get sacrified or something and I'll get a gold or dps bonus in return I see a bigger point in prestiging but right now I'll just slaughter my throught the dungeon without resetting.
At the moment I'd be surprised if offline progress comes out to 1% of the reward you'd get by just letting - not buying anything - it run for the same time.
Am I reading that right about relics oozes: After the first ascension, after level 99, one and only one can spawn ? You only get another one if you ascend again ?
Because they way it is written in the description there is slight chance to interpret it as "In an ascension as many relic oozes will as times you have ascended before - they will spawn randomly and only after level 99"
Yup. I wish there was a better news feed option but the new update is HUGE and despite busting our butts this last week and a half it's still not ready.
Hm, the Weapon upgrades "Improved Crit Chance" and "Improved Crit Multiplier" don't seem to show up on the infoscreen (That list of stats under image if current weapon on the screen where you buy the weapon upgrades)
Also: Said image of the current weapon is just a black rectangle for every weapon, for every hero and on the game the abilities still use the basic weapon as the image for the ability.
Also: What Pets ? Never seen one.
Right now you can't ever catch up to the monsters - they always stay a pretty steady clip in front of you. We've tried fixing the values for crit but they don't seem to register. I think we have to use decimals for it to show you an improvement every single time. And where are you seeing pets? They were in the first build of the game and were the only thing that autoattacked. Are we still mentioning them somewhere?
Offlineprogress vastly improved - I can actually buy several things from the proceeds - but still badly lagging behind what you'd get if you kept it just running in an open window for the same time.
Also an option to NOT progress further down th dungeon would be nice (My inner OCD demands that my heroes don't lag too badly behind the monsters - I'm currently 60 the monsters 119ish.)
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Fair enough! (and hey, you're still playing, so that's something.)