instead of incorrectly assuming youre smarter than others, ragnarokio, you might want to take into consideration that your opponent was likely using a random deck, and accordingly had no control over the items or cards they were given...
im pretty sure we're all over this discussion. id just like to add that i dont dismiss what anyone ive been arguing against has said, per se, just that i see luck as having a greater importance in playing the game than some of you do. i think i have a good enough reason to do so - i also can see your reasons to think otehrwise are justified.
pidge, saying luck only comes into play involving the rng is redundant and not particuarly insightful. the rng essentially represents the intangible thing we refer to as 'luck'. the rng governs the vast majority of decisions a player can make, even some of the switch/intercept ones (if one is unfortunate enough to have flash powder for example). as a result, the rng, or 'luck' governs the majority of decisions - a player makes their choice of attack and then according to its relevant hit/proc % (usually less than 100%) the rng makes is calculation as to whether they hit. it doesnt matter how clever you may think your decision is or how much of an awesome player you are or how high your rating is, you have no control over the outcome at this point, and this point happens AFTER your genius-like strategy and tactics. this is why luck is the most important single factor
ive never said i thought it has 'too much' luck. ive only stated that in my opinion luck plays a mroe significant role than any other factor.
as for comparitive role of luck in this vs poker (which i also play a fair bit) - luck plays a significantly smaller role - usually when a decent player loses a large amuont of chips, its because of a bad play. you will often lose a match in kongai purely as a result of making the right play but having the rng decide you miss/fail to proc etc.
of course it averges out over time. but why luck is not quantifiable is for a related reason to this - luck doesnt merely refer to the % of hits or procs or what have you, but the SITUATIONS in which those hits/procs/misses etc happen. it is MORE unlucky to have a miss happen in the last decisive hit between two cards on the last shreds of health than it is earlier on...
saying that luck ONLy comes into play with the rng is silly, and purposely ignorant. the rng essentially represents 'luck', and affects almost every single decision.
my poker analogy makes sense, as while once the cards are shuffled the order of cards cannot change (thoguh thats not entirely true, int eh case of a mistake the order can in fact change for one of the cards, but anyway...) - the exact order is an unknown quantity. my point is that at a certain point in holdem poker (specifically pre-river)- one might make the best decision in the history of decsion-making, but it is still subject to chance - just like almost all decisions in kongai. you might know every in and out, and know all the percentages of any given matchup, but no matter what you say or think or do, most of your decisions are at the mercy of the rng and therefore luck.
to illustrate: in poker, if you make the best call in the world pre-flop - i mean you picked the exact number and suit of the other player's cards, determined the exact % you are ahead when making the call, everything; it doesnt really matter, because despite having made some almost magically psychic reading, youve still gotta wait for the cards to come out.
the same happens almost every time you and your opponent hit whatever attack they think is the best option.
@ twinge: some people are just lucky. any quantification of luck is mere speculation. in my opinion it counts for more than anything simply because it modifies almost every decision a player makes. certainly strategy/tactics/experience play an important role, but no matter how good ones decisions may be, those decisions are still subject to the roll of the dice.
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