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I submitted a bug report for this but the developers seem to pay more attention to the comments. So just in case they didn't see the bug report:
I've gotten to 600 Altars which should give me +6 to my Achievement Multiplier. Since it STARTS on 1, 1+6=7. It's only at 6. When I noticed this I looked at my old saves and realized that when I hit 100 it didn't go up at all. I got 2 DK/Altar both before and after getting the achievement. That missing 2 DK/Altar didn't corrected itself when I got further achievements so I'm still getting 2 fewer than the game says I should be.
The most irritating part about that for my OCD is that when I get to 900 it won't end on a round number. Should end on 20 DK/Altar and instead it'll be 18.
Altar starts at 0. First achievement is 1. It shows you what the multiplier is under Kingdom Overview. I'm currently at 4 achievements earned for Altar and my multiplier is 4. Working at intended. However I notice the visual glitch for people who have just started the game. It should be showing 0, not 1 and the tooltips have not been updated to say the multiplier = 1 instead of +1. ~Taiga
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@drraska: Exactly. You're getting 280 million from countries mean you HAVE conquered the world. Or, you easily have enough DK to do so quickly and so why haven't you? So, yes. It's worth it. VilaRestal said it wasn't worth it until you could conquer the world in a reasonable time before reset. Not that it would never be worth it.
Well the goal of the game is world conquest after all. Not, "Conquer 2 countries and receive insane rewards!" I don't think there is a solution to making conquering half the world 'a good idea' without, in-turn, making it so it isn't that worth it conquering the whole world. I designed this game to be about gathering the resources and going on a psychotic rampage throughout the world until everyone is bowing before you. I am already designing an overhaul to the conquest mechanisms of this game though and am taking these things into consideration. However the current system has been extremely rewarding to people who have taken the time to gain enough dark knights and I find most of the comments using the words 'useless' or 'takes too long' are from newer players and that is also being considered in my redesign of the game. ~Taiga
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There isn't much gloating on the part of Catherine when we conquer the entire world. This seems entirely out of character.
Currently working on a massive dialogue overflow for her. I would have done more with the dialogue before game launch but I had no idea anyone would care about her. I literally thought people just played idle games to click buttons and do math :P ~Taiga
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I was confused by the Dark Knight reset (until reading the instructions, which I do last of course). Renaming it (maybe to Summon Dark Knights) and re-positioning it (not in options) might be better. It is actually a nice idea that adds thought to the game.
However, the first thought it adds is: "there's no point building an army until you can afford to build one big enough to conquer the whole world in one go" (after your last DK Reset) because conquered territories give you so little. So, please make conquering places before a DK reset more worthwhile.
Most importantly a DK Reset should not lose territory. If you add to that territories grow in defensive power with time then conquering early might be better than waiting. Perhaps a player's military successes could have negative (or positive) effects on the growth of other free territories. That would make the game more challenging and less of an inevitable victory and fix the "pointlessness of armies until the end" problem.
Currently getting 10 million gold per second from countries in my game. seems worth it.
Anyway, we will be expanding on country mechanics in the future. Presently you do get a bonus for conquering the whole world when you soft reset. Thanks for playing!
We don't want to give hard timelines because things change and unforeseen problems pop up. We are currently working on a fun overhaul of the "message" system, that will let you interact with Catherine by choosing how you reply to her comments, etc. After that we will be adding more production buildings and achievements, and a way to use troops to "invest" in countries to boost their gold production (that last one we are still hashing out, so it might go in a different direction entirely. lol).
You aren't looking in the right place. The total at the top only represents how many you gained after resetting. To view what the altar has produced look at the options screen under Dark Knight Reset or the Altar screen in Kingdom Overview. ~Taiga
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Just conquered the world for the first time. Its awesome, but I noticed something weird. I don't know why the grey isles are giving you troops, because you have to get them last so you don't have anyone else to conquer. I might be missing somethings, and I know you are working on the map feature, Its just something I find interesting. With that I'm done with this comment, and thank you for this wonderful game. Can't wait for more updates :)
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Hey little bug for you. Upon reaching enough to purchase multiple upgrades at once, for me the 2nd farm and 2nd barracks upgrades. I only had enough for one of them, and so I bought the farm upgrade, however I didn't actually calculate my mistake and saw the barracks button as still lit, and it let me upgrade. It still took my money and I think reset me to 0, however it allowed me to purchase it for less than it should have.
That actually can't happen because determining whether or not you can buy something runs in a constant update check. You likely just misread something. The 10,50 and 100 buy buttons show you the max cost, but it only buys as many as you can afford. ~Taiga
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A suggestion I have is maybe there should be some kind of bonus to not resetting straight away after conquering the Grey Isles. Right now, there's no reason not to reset immediately, since you get a bonus from conquering the world then resetting. Which as you get more and more Dark Knights, gets quicker and quicker. When I first conquered the Grey Isles with around 5 million or so Dark Knights it took me about 27 hours, but now with 35 million Dark Knights, it takes me about 3, and I don't get nearly any closer to those later achievements except overnight because I'd reset long before I'd achieve them normally. I could wait it out I suppose, but there's nothing else to focus on while getting those achievements if I chose to do that.
Do the math on say... the farm. It shows you what your farm DK multiplier will be after reset, add it to your achievement multiplier * it by base value. Every time you build a new farm the number you get from doing this math will be how much you will gain per # built. ~Taiga
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Thanks for the feedback guys. This is why we need a chatroom, so we can share info on the game w/o it needing to get in the way of updates and other more important stuff ;)
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@gukr: If you idle exactly the same time after reset then you will see there is a big difference. But in the short run, 13x multiplier isnt that much. You will still need to idle some to get the next achievment. Every reset i get around 2m DK (200x multiplier) and i dont really see any difference in my money growth but im reseting in less than 24h. Remember, this is an idle game, things are supposed to be slow so you can idle overnight or whenever you are busy.
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@gukr, at the beginning (first few resets) DK's are slow to gain and indeed don't do too much. This is the reason why it's good to try hit some gold productivity or altar achievement before resetting. Especially when we go from 300-->400 and 600-->700 achievements, notice how much of difference they make (16 and 2.72 times greater multiplier respectively!). In initial stage, where DK's does a little, it can be really significant difference, so sometimes it is good to spent few extra hours before reset, so your production would rise even few times afterwards ^_^
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Right. So 13x compared to 2x "multiplier" under economy tabs should actually feel a little faster, right? I expected to advance to the next tier of achievements, but I am still pretty much at the same grinding spot I was at before the reset.
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Do DKs boost gold income? Not noticing much of a difference between 16k and 135k DKs but I havent done any math or anything.
The Kingdom Overview contains pretty accurate details about your multipliers you can look at. The multiplier formula to determine gains is essentially: How many you have built * multiplier * base value. I've given you all you need to determine the outcome including what your DK multiplier will be after a reset. ~Taiga
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more content more to do but very nice game where u can conquer and enslave your own people and decimate civilizations all in the name of...a spoiled child love it
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@im an unknown: I quit AdCap cause of their useless updates but that is only my personal opinion. I thought of 2 reasons why i wouldnt like it. The first reason is that conquering is already too easy and fast for me and its even faster for those whith more DKs (im not even in top 100 ranking). On the long run, we all will be able to conquer anything in less than 5 minutes. Why make it easier?. The 2nd reason is if you think about a battlefield, doesnt matter how big your army is if the oponent starts shooting arrows as soon as they see your army you will get more than 5-10 deaths. Also, moving a bigger army would mean more ressources (food, weapons, ships, etc) wasted. The army with higher number have the advantage but doesnt mean you should waste everything in a single fight. Even with an army 10x bigger rushing the 1st line needs to break the enemy formation before the rest can get into the fight so it wouldnt really mean 10x army = 10x power = 10x speed.
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I would love to have the ability to choose how much of my army I want to defeat another country. When it says I need 675 army power, and I have over 900,000, I want to decimate the battle field and only lose about 5 or 10 men in the process. Also you should add a fight sequence. If you have more troops you add, show that during the fight. This game has the potential to be the next AdCap. Keep at it and it might be better. Either way, great game.
I know people keep posting about how upsetting the combat time is but it quickly spirals out of control for people who have been playing awhile. Grey Isles in 10 minutes? Yeah people are doing that right now. I need to reinvent a new system instead of adding to the old one and that is what I intend to do later on in a future content update so stay tuned! ~Taiga
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As soon as you implement more gold producing buildings, building in other countries, and (optional but greatly desired) more upgrades I will not only give you an internet uber hug but I shall also give you the entire box of cookies :D
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Rmcoen. It's a idle game you retard. Your supposed to not do anything. Haven't you played cookie clicker or any other idle game?
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I don't know why I'm playing this game! No achievements, no strategy, no skill.... but it stays open, and I keep going back and buying more stuff! Now someone tell me... what's the deal with Black Knights? Why would I reset???
Hello, thank you for continuing to support our game by playing it. There is a tab that says 'achievements', unless you are referring to Kongregate badges kind of achievements in which case we will likely not receive those as Kongregate does not really give them out to Idle genre games. Strategy, however, there exists strategy regarding how you manage your resources and how you time your resets believe it or not it's strategy involving numbers which is why I have a nice detailed, clean and easy to read Kingdom Overview screen. Dark Knights are necessary to speed up production. You need to make sure you are resetting with a good amount which in the overview screen I show you what your dark knight multipliers will be after reset to help people plan these better too. ~Taiga
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Yotsuba you and the developers are awesome to have made a game so great for everyone to enjoy i really hope this game gets updated more in the future keep up the Good work!!! (: 5/5 stars Fav!
Just me doing all the programming, writing and design Dave is drawing more Catherine art though but thank you! I am still chugging away at new stuff for all of you :3 ~Taiga
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I have 5000 buildings, but the kingdom overview tells me I have 4999. If the first farm doesn't count, it should. Anyway, 5/5 for the only idle game with an actual character that I know of (though I would like to see Cath have more traits than a stock tsundere).
Well it says total buildings built, you didn't build the first farm, it was given to you :P. As for Cath personality traits, while I agree it would be a cool feature I think it would take way too much time and would require careful consideration on whether it is worth the time. My ultimate goal is to entertain as many players as possible with the time I'm using. ~Taiga
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Humm.... she asks what we should name the world she does.... I suggest lolitopia! Just saying...
On a serious note, DK bonus needs to be more carefully calibrated. At the current moment, its military value far out weights its production value. Due to the last achievement update, the production bonus DK provides doesn't mean much anymore as even millions of DK cannot double production rate. On the other hand, it is a must for the last one to two conquest due to the heavy power requirement. It would be better if it was more balanced between those two uses to encourage multiple resets instead of just doing a few(I'd say three times at 100k, 500k and 4m will suffice under the current numbers)
Umm but you can only gain that achievement bonus once. Dark Knights you can gain forever and just keep growing their numbers. That is why this is balanced. ~Taiga
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I seem to have hit a wall at 13 mil dark knights. The Altar has been really slow it has taken me a week to get 10mil dark knights...
Hi Lapu! Glad to see you're still playing our game and don't worry, I will be getting new content to help people grow resources to you soon enough! Although I will say, if you do a hard reset, you can't even get 10 million dark knights in 2 weeks so I do think your 13 million dark knights has increased your ability to gain things substantially :3 ~Taiga
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@rhattz
From the comments the Developer has made, ending scenes and the like are still in progress. The game is still being updated.
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OK, so i conquered all the maps... in the summary page it is not reflecting the achievement. No congratulatory message from Catherine, nada. Kind of a let down since i've been working this for about 2 weeks. I will give props to you for addressing issues but this may be a minor oversight?
Perhaps conquering all the countries is not an end, but only a beginning? =)
We are actually working to expand the role of conquest in the game, but it will be a few updates out.
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once you get ~1 million dark knights, astrila basically seems to be equiped with nerf swords and paper airplanes for all the fight they put up
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If you plan to make the map bigger, make some of the newer countries the names of the isles but bigger so they seem just like outposts of them in this current one and make it seem a bit more reasonable
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Please make dark knights count towards our total troops,or give an explanation of how they help us.Just sitting there cant help the conquest.
They increase multipliers for everything including troop gaining buildings, they increase battle speed and they increase army power. Isn't that enough? :P ~Taiga
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@ ken030988: a couple weeks ago I would have agreed with YOU. Unfortunately, since then, the speed upgrades on DK's have gone away UNTIL AFTER YOU KILL THE GREY ISLES AT LEAST ONCE!! Getting that first one is a pain in the butt.
What? DK speed upgrades for combat have not gone away. The speed upgrade for altar production has been gone for a long long time. Conquering grey isles means you get a +5 bonus to altar production multiplier that is all. Want faster combat? Get dark knights. My whole game is balanced around dark knights and Catherine herself even brags about needing them for conquest so go get some lol. If I made anything in this game even remotely faster it'd be Idle Conquest For A Day Then Win. ~Taiga
You will want to conquer after I get done with this next game update though. Catherine completely narrates a story as you take each country and you will get dialogue choices you can reply back to her for each one. Should be rather interesting :3 plus multiplier based on how many conversations you've seen! ~Taiga
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@hyperjag7: A couple weeks ago i would had agree with because it used to take me around 90 minutes to conquer gray islands. Now it takes me aroudn 20 minutes. The more DK you have the faster you conquer. In another week its probably going to take around 10 minutes and im not even a top 100 player. Your idea would make conquering way too easy for an idle game. If your pc is somewhat slow, just close the game and do something else because the battle keeps going even with the game closed.
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Consider also scaling the conquer speed based on relative army power - that is, when you have waaaaaaay more army power than the enemy nation, let us conquer faster (maybe make it an option for double cost or something like that, but waiting on the fights is really annoying after a while)