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Really need some purchase modifiers to buy 10x, 25x, 100x, Max. At least the Max one would be very useful at parts of the game where player has to click hundreds of times to purchase certain upgrades.
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Since many people are not sure what kind of mechanics are in the game (or think theres nothing after first prestiege etc):
There are:
- Prestiege
- Expansion generators and upgrades
- Alpha/Beta/Gamma upgrades
- Omega generators and upgrades
- Simulation battles and upgrades
- and finally Electron upgrades
Thats the state of the game as of now (01.03.2021). Be aware that the dev already announced more upgrades and(or mechanics in the future.
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I'm rating the game 5* because it deserves way more than its current rating, the slow start is probably locking out a lot of people from the extra contents. Another thing that should really be fixed: I hoarded omegas for hours to unlock omega points multiplier, spend all my omegas to buy it and found out it gave x1.00 bonus. After a copule of days I tried purchasing it again (now I have about a thousand as many omegas as I had the first time) and it still gives x1.00 bonus. At least make it know. On top of that: make it a lot clearer how the omega upgrades tree works
Aww thanks!
There are many people that has had that same issue where they have saved up for it too early D: I'll make sure to add some text on it that says when it starts being useful. I explained how the tree works in the info tab, but maybe not well enough. I could change that up a little. Thanks for the feedback!
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PLEASE make it more evident that the first Omega upgrade can be purchased immediately on your first Omega and does not require points. I just spent a week going through the entirety of my second omega without the upgrade because i wanted to buy a generator first and didn't know they dont use the same currency.
I'm not really sure how to respond... On the upgrades it says "Costs: 1 Omega" not "Costs: 1 OP" like on the generators. It also says how much Omega you have above your generators. In the info tab it also tells you that generators generator omega and the upgrades costs omega. It really sucks that you had to waste a week on something that could be done really quickly D: But I don't know how that's my fault.
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thx for the response, eyewars! in all seriousness tho, as great as the concept is, this game takes a LOT more patience than a lot of people have (tho i think that their responses have already made that pretty clear). there is a whole section where the fastest route to progress is just pressing the expansion button whenever the number slows down, and ngl it takes a pretty big chunk of the pre-ABG part of the game. the ABG isn't AS bad since you're not just pressing the same button over and over, but the beta upgrades lag pretty far behind the others (i have lvl 7 of the 5th alpha upgrade and Beta is STILL stuck on tier 3 (i almost have gamma's tier 4 if you're curious)). anyway, it's a great concept you have going here, buuuut the balancing REALLY needs work. Come call me when you're v2.0 is ready.
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I find it incredibly annoying when it says, for example, +50 gold/sec and I'm only gaining around 10 gold/sec. And it's like that for electricity too. Energy I didn't even check
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I really start feeling like I need to play this with atleast 50x sppedhack or something when trying to get atoms. I am at 1e36 omega points and yet I don't have atoms maxed out, it takes several days just to get a single one and I am also not making any progress when it comes to Simulation
You're not supposed to be able to get all atom upgrades maxed out right now (unless you spend an absurd amount of time grinding them). It'll be easier when the next update comes.
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Good concept, but a bit bugged and not balanced. The message says I have 1e11 electricity per second (which would be good). But it looks close to 1e10 (which is way too slow). I get the first 190 expansion points during 2.5 seconds, then 15 during the next 30 seconds, and 3 during the next 30 seconds. So the only way to expand fast is to auto-click every 2.5 seconds.
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A suggestion I would make is to have current electricity also visible no matter what screen you're currently on. Tabbing back over to expansion to check my progress towards the next gamma is a tad bit annoying, especially when we can always see Energy, EP, and Omega.
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Hold CTRL key and use mouse scroll wheel(or numpad - and +) to change web page zoom. Standard windows function, should work in any browser
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Just as an advice, I at last tested to run my save on both Github and on there (Kongregate), idk why but seems like the ticks go faster there (5-10% faster in my case).
Currently closing the end of the EP grind, this time save is nice ^^
The game isn't very well optimized, so that slows it down somewhat. I will fix this at some point, but right now I'm in the incremental game jam so It'll have to wait a little.
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looking at the atoms upgrades, of the ones costing 2. if you buy the a/b/d one than you dont need the other one of expansion upgrades. it goes so fast its basicly the same.
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There's not enough information shown to allow us to understand the impact of our choices, and I feel like there's no really a choice with what to do. We all walk the same path, at the same speed...
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Simulation seems to be broken to me. I'm supposed to be getting like 4e8 gold per second, and 2e12 DPS, but I'm not getting anywhere near that level of gold or damage done. I feel like its more like 1/10 of whatever it says i'm supposed to be getting, is what I'm getting. Also I'm playing on the github page. Really could use a link to where to go to post about issues, and a page in the game about changes being made. As is, I'm having to come to Kongregate to communicate issues.
I will make a discord soon!
Also yes, this is a know problem. I think it's because the game is slow, so to fix it I'll have to optimize it. I'll do that at some point.
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protip for folks with epelepsy: go to any tab except generators BEFORE you mash the hotkeys (you know the ones [m p])
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I'd like to somehow reset my atom upgrades. I focused on reducing the interval, not realizing how fast the cost scales and no finding it the worst choice possible.
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I believe I "finished" the game, Bought every Omega upgrades, can nearly instantly resimillate and can really onlyupgrade atoms to get omega points faster to keep up with atom costs :D
I really like the diverse mechanics! Do you plan on adding more over time= (Or did I even miss some?)
Atoms/Electrons is currently the end. I will be making more content tho. I was planing on making the new update next week, but the incremental game jam is next week and I plan on participating in that. So I'll try to make it right after that!
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Math doesn't make any sense: I have one "4th generator" with a multiplier of 65, hence I should get 65 "3rd generators" per second, but I get a lot less
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A weird exploit:
If you send a keystroke fast enough (depends on your pc, for me its "m-klick-m" every 8ms) the game speeds up. if you find the right sweetspot, you can run the game at triple speed
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My big issue is now the Omega upgrade (after the Alpha section). It takes hours to get to Omega, and it isn't worth trying to accrue multiple Omega points. So now it is a grind of each point taking hours. To get the second generator, it would take at least 2 straight days of constant grinding, minimum.
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As (some of other players also did) I have already bougth most electron upgrades, I think before the next update It would be wise to buy as many atoms upgrades as possible. Anyway, are they limited any way? Cause byuing 3rd atom upgrade after 6th purchase would not have a sense, unless there is a change in the amount gain.
Each atom upgrade has 3 upgrades. The first 2 are QOL upgrades then the 3rd is a real upgrade. You can buy 5 of those each. Getting as many as possible of those now is the best thing to do while waiting for the update.
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I think this was insipired by Antimatter dimensions which i have comepletely beaten up to the newest update. This puts a different spin (a good one) on the mechanic of one generator makes the one before it. Large numbers are fun to play around with. I'd honestly love to see a lot of content come out for this game to become as large as AD. I am aware that AD takes much much longer to progress significantly in some cases but you still are seeing numbers move and you still make small decisions and make small upgrades that influence how fast you get to the breaking down the wall you are at...
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From reading some responses there i know there is a new mechanic that will make the game a lot less boring but im stuck at 1e52 ep and even after sleeping with the tab open i still wasnt able to break a reset for 1e53. I think that the last Gamma upgrade will help with the massive multi to all generators but its almost impossible to get to the upgrade. im at 1e201 electricity and i need 1e205 to get the upgrade but because my EP is stuck and takes days to make any progress I cant make nearly enough electricity to get the upgrade. Its also kind of hard to keep motivation when i don't know what unlocks the next mechanic, I'm not sure if im super close or really really far away and the fear that the next week will consist of me staring at the same numbers makes it hard to want to continue the game. Overall though i think the game has really good ideas, like unlocking perm upgrades when hitting electricity milestones, i think thats what keeps early to mid EP game interesting.
Remember to farm expansions! Expansion Upgrade 13 gives a mult to EP gain, and AU3 makes that effect stronger. Other than that you have to build up AU2. The next mechanic unlocks at e75 EP.
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The Balancing in this game is really weird. Its a slow early game but i find that completely fine, i got through it by having a youtube tab open and checking in every 5 or so mins. But then progress explodes. Suddenly you go from having a few 6th generators to having the first generators at max prestige and a few away from starting EP. EP is actually pretty balanced compared to most idle games. you are actually idling and you come back to making a decent amount of progress... its kinda grindy until you get the prestige autobuyers and then you have to reset for EP hundreds of times to get some of the upgrades which is just 10 mins of clicking the same button. but then it hits a massive wall with the gamma beta and alpha upgrades. the first few are kinda just given to you as you already have the required amount of resources to buy them but then as you get to the first autobuyer in alpha upgrades it takes a long long time to make any progression.
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It's a good test, and I'll check out the github. I'm mostly glad that I went to Kong out of nostalgia, and there was still something new that showed promise. Thank you for that
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After reaching the point of getting 6 omega it feels to stand still. im not sure how i can get it further. And restarting it 17 times over for the second generator feels like its not the right thing to work to.
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Ah right, something that must be mentioned, you have some sort of memory leak or something, usually the speed at which I got the resources was between 1/4th and 1/10th of what was announced, but most of the time the numbers just jump so fast it doesn't impact so much, just quite annoying when you need something fast and not depending on a higher gear
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I think I finished the game, that is unless there is something after Omega and Electrons, since it seems I have bought all Omega upgrades, and all useful atom upgrades. To be honest, some automation come waaaay too late, such as the Expansion Autobuyer which is unlocked only once it finished being useful. Changing omega builds in some sections to move forward was fun, but there is some stretchs that are quite annoying since most omega automations come late. The simulation also has a soft cap, it is pretty slow then just explodes forth, being nearly required to go pass e15 omega. All in all, it is quite nice, just some automations are unlocked quite late, making some sections more annoying, needing an autoclicker. I'll keep playing until I reach e50 omega just in case, but otherwise a message saying we reached the end would be nice too
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Sorry but this is not good. It's the most barebones effort put into an incremental "idle" upgrader. Click button to upgrade, click button to prestige. That's it. Nothing fancy or entertaining to keep you occupied while playing, nothing worth really aiming for. just because it's idle doesn't mean no effort should put into it. I'm not saying to reskin other idle games but if this is all you have to put forward vs every other idle game, what makes this one stand out? wish you luck.