Comments for War Clicks

We are aware of some progression issues, and will update them soon. Where exactly do you find the issues, mostly in BootCamp? On which point exactly? Edit: There have been quite a few updates since our launch in August, related to this issue. Progress has been speed up at all stages and more gold can be collected via game.

There are still some specifics that needs to be improved for MS Edge, so that might causes some of your issues. Currently, the game is best optimized for Chrome, so you can try the game on other browsers in the meantime. We'll look into browsers specifics as soon as possible.

Hmm, You're not getting this all the time though? And if it happens could you please open up developer console (F12) and let us know if you get a "503" or "403" error printed there?, so we can see if it's likely a connectivity issue.

We are looking to improving progression at various points to make it more engaging for you guys. It's our first time publishing on Kong so we are happy to look into optimizing the experience for you guys, as with all the idle games on here, a lot of you seem to prefer a faster progression. Thanks for the feedback, and pointing out how strongly some of you feel about this! Edit: We actually delivered a bunch of progression speed up and more gold collection via updates since we launched so it should be much more balanced and fast-paced throughout now. But we're always open for additional suggestions & feedback!

What exactly did you lose when switching zones?

Just tested the function, and didn’t find nothing wrong there... please recheck on the last unit before entering Boss fight that you have enabled Farm mode function.

Can’t replicate the issue on Chrome.. Does this happened just once and then you refreshed and it worked?

Thanks for letting us know about this! We’ve updated the formula, but missed to update Help texts. This should be sorted later today with the next deploy. FYI, Clicking Force is calculated as: CF = (1 + ∑CountryUpgradesCF) x RankMX x DonationsMX; (RankMX .... rank # * 0.1; DonationsMX ... Total_donated/100 * 0.002)

I've just deployed a change for something we deployed in the morning. Could you please let me know if it keeps happening - if it does it's some other issue that we will look into, and in which case can you let me know which browser you are playing on?

We know us idle/incremental players :) We hope to add more similar functions in some future updates, that make after-prestiging more bearable ^^

It just disappears suddenly, or when you go to War Zone it's simply not there?

The last part helps explain what is happening. Seems like you're somehow making some events load twice. I suppose this starts happening after being off tab and coming back in? For now if you see this happen you can get rid of it by going to War Zone and back, but we will look more into when exactly this is caused and how to prevent it. Thanks for the report!

Does this happen all the time? And if/when it happens, could you open up Developer console (F12), and see if there's any error like "404, 502, gateway error" popping up please? I'm assuming it's got to do with "being unlucky" and getting a server error several times in a row (as the game does try several time if it receives an error) It should be a really rare case if it does, and we'll be looking at some robustness updates next week as well.

This is unfortunately something not in our control - I suggest to Contact Kong, with some info about the ad, what brand it is advertising, and what the clickthrough link is (if available), and explain what's happening. We will speak with them to see if there's a way we could detect such issues on our side and reward you guys anyway, and also making the video icon only show if ads are actually available, to take that part of the annoyance out. Something I think we'll be able to get to early next week.

The reason behind that is that the game started off as a separate game/"website", and the Authentication system works off some cookie use. We want to rework this to token use in the future, but will require a major overhaul of some core functions. I prefer cookie-less solutions much more as well, so really hope we can find time to properly look at this soon.

So this kept happening often to you, darn. If it does again, could you please open up developer console (F12), and let me know if some "CORS issue" or "502 /403 error" notes start popping up when it happens? The game is relying on server (for fetching, verifying and updating data/progress), and there are retry/queue system in place, but sometimes randomly if some thresholds of retries are reached it stops trying. So some info on what error exactly you get when this happens would be great, as we'll be looking at improving robustness next week.

If you wouldn't mind letting us know what bug specifically that would be greatly appreciated! And sorry to hear the game isn't up to your taste, thanks for the feedback either way!

We pretty much all do that! Now all that is missing are some similar functions that make post-prestige more bearable... Edit: In September we also added a MaxOCD option that's even more handy for late game play!

Did you get this repeatedly (tried refreshing the page?), or was it a one-time event?

Where did you gain that gold from - War Zone drops or from Boot Camp goals in Boot Camp - I assume from Boot Camp renown goal as one of the rewards is 125 gold exactly. Did you seem to lose any progress/units in Boot Camp by any chance?

You mean on Buy units in Boot Camp? You are right indeed if that's it - we will soon be looking into improving some of the sounds as well.

EDIT 20th Jan 2019: After some more specific reports, we finally found where this was happening - profile, and it should now not happen again. Could anyone confirm this via PM perhaps? :) Otherwise, this seemed to happen only during first gameplay session as far as we're aware

I think something like this will definitely be put on line for a QoL update! We will also be improving upgrade balance on those upgrades asap, where we might also consider a "buy X" option within that section to make it more convenient. <-- last bit not official, but something I'd love to see, especially if we make the upgrades cost much more affordable throughout.

Simply put, we built a game that would be fun, interesting and unique for us, and PvP/community/some sort of competition/rankings is what we enjoy, and many do as well. I am not sure we could toggle pvp, as the current "pvp" is more of a "simulation" or a different type of "boss battle" from our design perspective. And as such is a part of balance/progression (we are working on an update for rewards to offset the losses here as well), and not sure there is a viable way to remove it without affecting that. We will be having a more broad PvP battle reconsideration in a few weeks, so will keep this in mind, and see if it might make sense to us and find a place somewhere.

We are not fully happy with PvP as is right now, as it's lacking a crucial reward element, to offset the support units lost. We are working on this as we speak. I am surprised though, that you feel that WZ is PTW, where in reality gold hardly has any progress effect on it, and BC could be considered more PTW actually. Lastly, we made a game we like and added elements we felt add a nice touch, but realize not everyone might enjoy the PvP or limited fuel parts. So while we likely won't be changing/removing things we feel would change the game we want too much, we appreciate the feedback as it helps us think more critically and do improvements that make it more fun for everyone.

You mean production per second? That's already available for every unit within the settings, and we will also be adding a total production/s setting soon :) Or is it something else you mean?

This is a known issue- but we didn't properly resolve it, as it should happen in very rare cases, especially when the countries have tons of players. But it is annoying nonetheless. Calculating it based on seconds left is an option, or we first also thought we could resolve is basically just add "max possible damage you could do" to anyone who finished it. However, we'd have to make sure that extra damage doesn't break some calculations, which is why it also wasn't prioritized yet. but will put it on the list so we can do something with it. The "issue" is only, how to present that to users - maybe it will be enough for "those who care" to look about it in help/ask us. Or maybe some small tip/note that it will add full damage anyway. We'll figure something out - thanks for pointing this out, first one who did actually, that's why I say it's a rare case that we didn't prioritize :P

Well...this will sound cheesy, but the community here is awesome so we love the interaction really! Thanks for your kind words, looking forward to improving the game further :)

I hope we can add a "farm" option this week. It's been on our list for a while, just need to ensure it doesn't break something. We will also be looking at WZ re-balancing very soon - primarily bosses and support power. One of our first design considerations with support power was actually adding an idle element to it, but we felt it actually "ruined" War Zone in some ways. Also, in War Zone specifically we have to replicate every single click in correct order on server side to ensure 100% sync, and with a such idle element added things could get real messy. There might be some mid way to getting it improved like that - will discuss it with the team in the following weeks and see if we can do something to improve that. But there are a bunch of pressing updates so don't expect to hear any concrete feedback on that too ("idle support power") soon I'm afraid. But thanks for mentioning it and getting us thinking about that again :)

Very solid suggestion. We discussed this once already, and I think we will again. It's not the easiest to implement with the way how things work currently, but we should be able to. Or maybe just display "gold" status to members who purchased. But then again, it's also something some members would NOT like to show up as it's essentially private info. I will bring this up in one of our meetings, I surely think there might be a way to make this work and it being friendly to all. But I have to say it's not at our topmost priorities, but might be something we could look in a month's time.

The limit is actually gone after 3rd deploy. The limit is there to ensure that first time players (not familiar with prestige mechanics) make "proper use" of the deploy option, and not use it when it's not "worth it" - i.e. as a general rule you at least double your production. As otherwise they might get a terrible experience. Does it to you feel that you'd really want to play differently the first few deploys?

Thanks, will look into this. Maybe it chose a wrong index by default. If I can replicate it should be easily solvable! Actually one question - did you in the same session complete another PvP before already, where you chose either the 2nd or 3rd choice? EDIT: This has been fixed.

I'm hoping we can add this within a week's update. Basically a note that based on your current production shows how long before you gain enough contractors to double your production. Does that sound good to you - or in your opinion, another note- i.e. when you gain 50% of production etc.? Should be able to calculate this, so maybe even a few different notes (i.e. 50%, 100%, 200% increase).

Yeah it's a life savior!

There are indeed many options, but we tried to design the game without relying on gold to have a fun experience - it helps speed it up and make it more convenient, but even without it you can progress through all the content just as much. In fact some of our top users in other version never bought a single gold!

Thanks for the thoughts, will discuss this in the team and consider if we'd like to change something. But if you don't mind a few thoughts from my end: As to date we have been very careful with gold and feel it is adequately balanced, but maybe it deserves another look in some cases, primarily in Boot Camp's early game. As I feel that that's where you're coming from and it might be most noticeable. As when you'll hit privatization that will give you a huge boost again. So it's mainly the difference until getting to there. In War Zone gold doesn't really give any big progress benefits, it mainly makes things a bit more convenient. And WZ is more of a means to collect gold via various ways. As for HQ - I ran out of writing space :D But I'd happily elaborate on our view (in a forum post maybe?) and that some things might seem too gold dependent, where they really are not, as we designed them to ensure it doesn't happen.

There are some things that work differently architecturally that we'd like to make sure work properly. For example - like setting your country automatically doesn't work here, so we have to fix/change something. Plus the game on Kongregate is from scratch, and is using different databases/servers (but same code), so it's another thing we want to make sure works 100%.

We have some plans to improve it in the following weeks. First make it more usable via PvP upgrades giving DPC mx boosts, make skip option work better and some other unclarities/issues with it. Or do you perhaps just hate that it "break the attacking loop"?

We deliberately don't want this to become "deploy fest" from the start. i.e. you can play for 10 hours straight continuously re-deploying. We want players to be able to progress nicely with short-mid game session length. Still we will consider changing progression speed at various points (or adapt some multipliers) based on feedback, and see at which points you might feel there's not enough progress. Opinions on specific game-points are really helpful to us so thanks for that :)

At later stages Boot Camp will have a significant effect on War Zone progression, as any deployed units become "support units" in War Zone, affecting your damage output, as well as serving a purpose in defeating tougher Boss Battles.

We've debated around this several times in our team as well, as one can argue "it's just a number" and not really meaningful, but in short (sorry not that short really!): The game started off as a small project where we added high-scores "for the sake of it" and because we like seeing it as a sort of "achievement" and comparison to others as well - believe it or not many of our players like the stats, and would even like to see more types of them. We also wanted to experiment with (yes you'll read this right) making idle games have meaningful competitions, that can reshape/shift the scales and keep things "competitive" for longer. Currently we have "weekly competitions", that are based just on these numbers, but the rewards from them also help keep progression curve slightly up at later stages. And also, again a lot of our players like them! So even if they may not be a core element of the gameplay, it still makes it as sort of an achievement and more interesting to many players.