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@Toxo1 If the 15% discount is relevant, EVERY spawn in relevant; 3500 and 4000 acheivements give 500% power to all. 5k gives 1000% to cerberus (and going down), until after titan it goes back to 200% to all.
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@DwalinG My Inventory is there -
@sukkel Agreed. But should be less of a priority. Maybe making the bar for upgrades *sligltly* smaller and place a rather small "All" button, which then buys all (possible, if insufficient souls) upgrades reducing the full upgrade click per monster to 2. In cas of the Upgrades in General... i don't know. Not a fan. - @Farbinrp offline mode works fine. Wait 15 minutes after logging out. Sometime it doesn't work if you browser has some sort of special cookie-handling - @Vendetta Mh... maybe this is hoistmasters attempt at an "Anti-Idle" concept :P
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Why is there a -15% cost upgrade near the end of the list? It's pointless. I'm not even buying Wurms, Satyr's, Ghouls, or Golems at that point because the return on buying them after 2000 is nonexistent. Having high priced upgrades that are pointless doesn't make sense.
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could you make a buy 10x speed and upgrade button at the spawns, and a button to buy all available upgrades starting from the top. saves alot of clicks after each reset.
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1500% power spike looked fun, but the achievement changes are promising. The decillion doldrums were all 'idle' and no 'game' so hopefully breaking up the bonuses will help.
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Decreasing the spawns cost by 15% is about the same as increasing power production by 17%, without the benefits of gaining more souls... do you realize that? ;)
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I don't like the cost reduction, seems like a big nerf I would fo much rather had the 1500% buff to skeletons, as thats the exact part of the game I am at, and have kind of hit a brick wall for a few days now
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Off line is still broke, I went to bed for 8 hours with 12billion souls and woke up with 17trillion, I have been only online for 30 mins and now how 60 trillion
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Well, you pretty much could spend 50 undecillion of 60 undecillion, leaving you with 10 undecillion which power then is multiplied by x25 ( so you then got the power of 250 undecillion souls) PROBLEM!!! however is, that you already have a staff. Assuming youre using the titan spirit staff you only would increase the last 4 spawns power by x1.25, while the first 6 would get the x25 at the same time. Basically you probably should at least have 100 undecillion souls before even considering buying the staff (and god help you if you actually make a purchasing mistake.) Also, spent souls are spent souls, they are still "gathered souls" meaning it will take you longer to reach 100.000 undecillion souls even with the power boost.
I'd advice buying it when having 250.000 undecillion souls. That way you're sure to have more pps after equipping the new staff.
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@Hurin you're not supposed to buy the staff when you get 50 undecillon souls. Wait until you have a few times more THEN buy it. otherwise you will have to start over.
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@Jiscil: I believe you're misunderstanding my point. Though I say soul generated, I meant power generated, which soul gain is based off of. My point is, it'll take a really long time to gain 50 undecillion souls which gives a lot of power gain - but when we spend it for the final staff - we only gain 2500% compared to having the souls not spent. So why buy the staff for 2500% gain compared to keeping 150 undecillion % gain is my question? Unless souls are not spent when purchasing items, which I highly doubt. And souls do carry over when you reset unless you are speaking of hard reset which I believe wipes everything including items, though I've never tested it.
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Hmm im notcing something. I stop gaining souls once my souls upon reset = current souls. Is this supposed to happen? Im only at 40trill souls, and ive been playing since day 1 :(
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To Hurin, you can just get the souls back by resetting. Currently there's no penalty to spending all your souls just before resetting as they don't carry over.
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@Hurin the percentages stacks with each other, this mean if you have a spawn that gives 1 trillion with all the soul/upgrades porcentages after purchasing the staff it will give 26 trillion and if you get a 100% upgrade after that it will give 52 trillion, this is the way percentages is calculated in this game
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I think a good addition would be miniBosses that you can get with souls under your command that give bonuses to your summoned creatures would be pretty cool in this game
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You know considering how much it costs to get the final staff atm, is there any point to getting it? Since the total soul count generated doesn't decrease upon purchase, we're essentially losing 150,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000% power boost compared to the meager 2500% from the staff (+1000 skeletons with each reset). Am I missing something or is it more of a completionist-type of item?
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On the other hand there is not much point to complain too much. After all, there is content to come, Items which will be created and stuff :) And I'm actually of the patient sort. I'd rather wait longer for it than to have a rushed out the door product.
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@hawkaris I understand the need to buff up early gamers to compete with current gamers. I'm for that. I actually want to early gamers get their stuff faster, but I don't want useless upgrades that nobody can reach. It should not take 2 months to get the next upgrade, period. Not for late gamers and neither for early gamers. There is no need whatsoever to nerf late gamers. Just buff up early game instead. Just increase the soul gain up to some Quintillions and you've got that problem solved. Late gamers wouldn't benefit from that. I guess I'm a mid gamer with my 6 decillions.
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idea! add spawn "x1000" and "buy all affordable upgrades" buttons
getting tiring to push spawn 100 a hundred times and buying all the 60-70 upgrades all at once cx
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a tip to boost your pps: let skull staff of doom equipped the whole time, when titan has 2~5 secs left switch to titan spirit staff and after the titan tick equip the skull staff of doom again and repeat the steps :) (this is not a bug(i think))
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man that was an awesome buff!! Thanks hoistmaster!
Games that evolve and set higher goals encourage play. Balancing souls vs items is a great concept and I hope it's implementation has rewards for players of all levels.
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As a philosophy - cribbed from my time with MMOs raising level caps and tiers - sweeping power boosts should help newer players catch up to the veterans, rather than let the veterans widen the gap even further. And everyone hates nerfs. They make people that didn't or couldn't take advantage of a pre-nerf state feel like they were cheated out of something. As such, be very careful when you're making numbers bigger, because it's hard to put that djinni back in the bottle.
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I agree with synster14 about the reduced cost upgrades to an extent. As it is, that's really kind of a bad upgrade. It's late stage so it loses a lot of the appeal, and having it in the upgrades like that as a concept is just a little off base. I would suggest one of two things, either A) build that cost reduction into some gear instead. or B) make those upgrades later, more expensive, and permanent through resets.....and then put back the 1500% power increase it was before, because that was a lot more valuable to us.
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Making all of the new 3500/4000 achievements into "all" does seem exceptionally powerful, but I'm not quite there yet, so I'll refrain from commenting. But the "discount" upgrades from 10^75~10^87 doesn't seem like it'd do much to carry people through that whole range. It feels like a very insignificant gain.
(As an aside, I rather like the idea of investing in upgrades that stick around, and even make your next go-round start faster. The extra skeletons are quite nice, and I can't wait to see what kinds of things fancier books do.)
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the "increase power per tick" tooltip only seems to show the raw increase, it dont show the increase with achievments that would be obtainable with that purchase, would be great if it shows the total increase with achievments and all
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Well this time around the pps is way more than it was even before, maybe even too much.
With the reduce cost upgrades (which i think are still kind of useless) it might be ok though, gotta see how it works out.
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I have to voice my dislike for "reduced cost" upgrades. If it's too expensive to the extent that you need and upgrade to reduce the cost, then you just reduce the base cost!
It's like making what should be a patch, into an upgrade. I mean, it's not like the reduced cost is optional.
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With the new update the handling on some stuff became easier, there are some nice new achievements and better tooltips.
But srsly... my pps just got divided by [b]60[/b]. I'm in the decilion range for souls (28 decilion souls), accumulating more souls already took forever, the next valuable upgrade is about 287 quintilions (55 days of waiting before the upgrade). At least i was able to double my souls in 1-2 days. As it is now i could wait about 8 years for the next valuable upgrade (without getting ne souls). If i instead decided to only double my souls for now, I`d still have to wait for 2 whole months (cant rly do anything till then). And even if i could ever get close to the new upgrades, a 15% decrease is basically useless (and rly pales next to the x15 which it was before).
Conclution: Some nice things were added UI-wise, however the late game basically became unplayable.
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Also the quintvigintillion Upgrades I was working towards were replaced. Instead of 150x more souls, you can spend 15% less on upgrading. What do I care if My next upgrade of Titan will cost 21 Quintvigintillion, or 15 Quintvigintillion. It is still Quintvigintillion, with the dead patch for quatuorvigintillion combined with the slow soulgain I just feel that all this update was meant to do was to throw players back 3 days to 1 week. Or maybe I'm totally wrong. After all every Spawn has now more useful achievements. Instead of 50% increase per 100 level afte 1500 you get 150% increase now, among other additions. Though most of them are pretty late late game.
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Losing the 500% everything for 4000 skeletons was quite the blow to soul-gain in that range. I even had to switch staves, since the last four spawns weren't nearly as useful anymore.
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So... I'm guessing that some giant nerf just happened.
My titan was raking in 16 trevigintillion power per tick, with a speed of around 1:30, and now it's giving me a whooping 469 duovigintillion per tick, with a speed of 2:11.