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I have been stuck at just over 2k for everything except selling where I am still at .47 at very expensive. I have hit the wall that I have found to be undoable in a reasonable amount of time. the ascention levels are not fast enough to get you over that hump. from a 5 to a 2 star for me because you can never get to the end game.
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@quadehale and Lucv3: In later stages you have maxed selling speed and selling at insane price is far more effective.
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the one thing i love about this game is that it autosaves but it doesnt do it once a minute, making my pc freeze for a couple of seconds (i know, bad pc :P) most idle games' autosave does do that and im not sure how this one does it. but it sure is nice. the game itself is also really good 5/5
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quadhale, in later stages sell at very expensive. The achievements for selling at that price stack up quickly. Besides that, producing higher tier items but slower is much more lucrative as every tier doubles the revenue.
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In the later stages of the game, selling at "Expensive" with maximum Crit is far more effective (seeing as it's only half the price but between 4 and 5 times the speed).
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In this game I don't tolerate nothing short of a perfect conveyor. Smelt as fast as mining gives ore, forge as fast as smelting gives bars, enchant and sell as fast as foge outputs items. Maximize gold per second? Maybe, just advance a material tier, equalize by upgrades, leave running. PS: mails only for me.
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this game has been buggy after I hard reset it. I don't have quick sell on but I still am getting 5% for an enchanted copper mail. can you please tell me how to fix this
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okay well that is extremely infuriating. Getting a bit tired of logging on and finding everything has been reset, 0 ascension, money, ect. exports and imports don't work. It's almost once a day at this point. Not hitting hard reset. If i'm going to waste a day on this I would prefer it be available when I wake.
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Where is score shown and how is it calculated? All I see is in the high scores section outside of the game itself. Somehow my best score is 0 even though I'm level 226.7g and have 576.5U$. I don't understand the scoring mechanism at all.
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To "scale" with something basically means to be balanced with, so no it you wouldn't have level 1000 in no time unless you had ascended a few thousand ascension levels or so.
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The thing you need to consider with autosell is that all the other things have "unilimited" upgrades possible. The selling is limited to only 8 stages. If it would be scaled to the others you'd have level 1000 in no time and it would be probably maxed out. At level 324 even Above Average isn't maxed :)
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Okay nevermind its not diminishing...Maybe I was just on crack? lol, no but really...it does actually get better, vote down and feel free to ignore my previous comment...
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The diminishing power of autosell makes it not worth it at all...I can just level up the click, set a beer bottle on the space bar, and sell at an above reasonable rate, and I am all good...better to buy all the other upgrades and just sell everything yourself due to the uselessness of autosell...
I'm not saying I want to autosell everything as fast as space bar right from the start....but between the price of auto and the effect...its pointlessly weak...doesn't balance out against anything, and just flat out not worth it...
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with a limit of 0.07 and the quick sell not taken into account in this achievement, the 512 millions very expensive items sold is not possible in less than a year
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So, I checked it. Probably you have Auto Smelting at Level 287? Without any Critical or Power Levels for Smelting (Mining doesn't effect that, that only effects the output of the ores), I produce 0.07 Bars in average per second and nee 0.28 Ores per Second
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@Wishun
Okay, now i'm wondering, can you export the game and send me the code? I would like to have a look, maybe I find out, what happened, because in my savegames, I never had a bug like this?
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@ Peacemaker: Except that the average per second does -not- include critical percentages. In order to test if that was the case, I ascended and built back up without buying any critical chance upgrades. Same incorrect input-output relationship.
Think of it another way: It takes me 14.15 seconds per bar at my current settings (no critical smelting or mining upgrades). 1/14.15=.07 (and change) bars per second. But the game tells me I average .16 per second.
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@Wushin
For me, the Math works fine. The "... in average per second" includes your Critical hit levels. So, let's say, you need 1 Second to complete the "Stibnite Ore"-Bar you normally get 1 Stibnite Ore per second. But in maybe 20% (Critical Mining) of the cases you get 3 Ores (Power Mining). So yout average Production per second will increase to 1.4 Ores per second.
The "... required per second" is fix by the time you need. Let's stay at 1 Second per Smelting. Then you definitely need 4 Ores per second (or if you are slower, you need your 0.17). Now let's look at the Critical and Power Smelting. For easy calculations, we will stay at 20% and 3. Now your output will be 1.4 Bars. Instead of 5.6 Ores you still need only 4 bars as the input.
Based on your numbers, I would say you have Crtical somewhere around 20/24/30 and your Power respective on 6/5/4... on that level my guess is 30 and 4
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The math isn't right on the per second averages. For example, Stibinite takes 4 ore per bar. Since it claims I'm making .08 bars per second on average, I obviously need .32 ore per second to sustain that. But it tells me I only need .17. Same logic problem with the forging numbers.
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@attoffy09 The point is, no it doesn't bring you back up faster. Not unless you have a rather dramatic increase in your levels. Whereas a lot of idle games have a butter zone around 3-10x increase in levels making a different, with this game I don't really notice a rapid increase unless my new levels are closer to 1000x what they were before. Anything smaller than that, ESPECIALLY at lower numbers, is just not worth doing.
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Would I rather click 1000 times for over the course of idk 5 minutes or so? Or hold the space bar and get that done in the course of 10 seconds. I love this space bar!
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@kailen4 reseting might not seem like much but when you look at what it gives you, 10% more money it makes a difference. To help me I have actually compared it to an amount of free bargain levels which are super expensive when you invest in them. when you reset it will take less time to get to back to where you are. so what might have taken a week might only take an hour to get back to depending on your ascend level.
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i would like to point out that cinnabar ore should not becomes a cinnabar bar but it should actually turn into a quicksilver bar not trying to complain i like the game but that is what cinnabar ore should become look it up
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key tip if you are using google chrome and get a white screen go to the top of google crome where it has the link to what you playing u see a chest with an x click the box is and unblock the plug in
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It doesn't really seem to make sense to reset in this game. It's easy to balance in such a way that you just keep making steady progress, and you can reach a point where you can just upgrade faster this way than trying to reset and work your way back up. A bit more balance tuning seems to be in order.
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Peacem4ker, thanks for the info. I already knew that the developer used a simple doubling of the previous number plus 52 exponential function. I just haven't put it into the form yet because at the moment, I don't really find a need to. Haha. But thanks for the file. It'll come in handy when I'm verifying numbers. (: I'm actually hoping to catch the attention of the developer and have them send me the actual equations for me to use in the form. It's basically just a calculator/wiki in excel/sheet format. Haha. Here's the link for anyone wondering what we are talking about. http://bit.do/IdleMineInfoSheet
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Hey innovoh,
thats a good thing, I already have started the same thing, but not as good looking as yours, but I thing I have more, and in some more accurate values. I found the Logic for the Strength gaining per Level and the needed Mine Progress.
I will upload it for you, so probably you can get it into your sheet.
Column B ist the Mining strength for the level (for the first 2296 levels, but I thing you see how you can extend that ;) ), the comlumns C and D are only helping to calculate them.
In column F-I there are the Ores and their Mining/smelting/Forging Values. For the Calculation you need columns AI to AK.
Here is the Link: http://www41.zippyshare.com/v/87828438/file.html
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For those who would like it. I made a google docs sheet with in depth info on upgrades and different metals and whatnot. It's still hugely in progress since it's terribly time consuming to type in each and every level and whatnot, but eh. I'm bored and I have some time on my hands.
To use it for your own personal use, you'll have to save it to your own google drive folder. Then you can edit it and use the calculation portion of it. Otherwise, you can only view it in the way I last left it.
Here's the shortened link since Google Docs URLs are always terribly long.
http://bit.do/IdleMineInfoSheet
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Nice thing for the update would be Special Sellings, like "US Army orders 1000 Iron Swords, 100 Steel Mails and 50 Kunzite Helms" Or something, which you can sell manually (I mean, just click "Sell Order", not clicking 1150 times, once for every item), if you have everything in your inventory. Of course this should be better paid then the "normal" selling.
Otherwise you don't have any advantage in producing smaller level items.
Also a dropdown menu every step would be cool... if i want to harvest (for whatever reason) lower minerals, i dont want to click twenty times, and produce 3 or 5 of each ore
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I sold some enchanted mail to some baron in a far away land at an insane price, after his country went bankrupt I sold 200 pieces of the same armor to farmers for a very cheap price.
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@Klasanov I've tried having the MPS calculator stuck at 0$ MPS for quite a while after ascending in the g's as well, but it returned to me everytime I earned a more steady income in the inifitium ore range. And I've seen the score update in around half an hour later than the ascension, so just be patient.
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My MPS calculator is not working.
i ascended with 1g levels and it stopped working.
also ascended with the quick sell option activated
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I've been playing this for.. for days... I... shift.... hold... shift... how didn't I notice this... clicking... so much clicking......
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I would love to have a way to skip all the metals once you ascend. It is very frustrating having to click thru all the way back to infintium. Maybe being able to spend some ascension levels to buy your way thru the low metals.