Comments for Idle Raiders: Second Run

No, that's just an oversight. We'll add it in!

He can be found on farm map level 23 - we'll add this to the prophecy description.

It's supposed to spawn in your inventory, but there are other reports of bugs with prophecy rewards, so this might be bugged as well. Will be fixed!

Nope! The buildings introduce new gameplay features that we locked behind that raid specifically.

Whoops. The skill priority list resetting thing happens as a fail safe if something goes wrong while loading.Sending you a PM. Also, we'll introduce a workaround to moving buildings by refunding costs for buildings when you delete them (for now), and the bug with the entrance is being looked into.

Yeah, removing it makes sense in this case.

No, the restocks happen periodically (for the Scholar's Tower, too) - right now it's every 45 minutes. The spawned items are also randomly selected from a pre-defined list. It can include equipment sometimes (even very rare items!) if you're very lucky.

Sorry this is happening - rest assured your savegame should never disappear as it's safely stored on our servers. But sometimes something during transmission can go wrong, and there are probably still a couple of bugs left in the code that deal with these errors. We'll look into it. As you already discovered, a work-around until then is to try and refresh the game periodically, also waiting a couple of seconds (30 as a maximum should be enough) to make sure the client has has enough time to actually download the save could work.

This bug is fixed internally, but it will be a couple of hours yet before we can upload the patch. The save game is actually not corrupted, what happens is that some responses from the game servers are too slow sometimes, and while loading the savegame the code crashes, so the game thinks the savegame is corrupted. It's not true, just a kind of catch-all assumption we show the player when something goes wrong while loading the game. One workaround until then is to wait maybe 5-10 seconds before trying to load the savegame (after you have already arrived at the starting screen). Sorry about that!

Yes, that would make sense. Implementing a move feature would take some time and we have a lot of stuff left to do already, as a work-around we'll probably refund the price of a building once you delete it.

They can, but you need [secret]!

Yep, bugged prophecy rewards have been reported, we are looking into it.

Can you tell us what display resolution you play with? We've spent a long time trying to optimize text for small screens, but there's probably some work left to do.

As far as I know Kongregate creates chat channels for games selectively, maybe they'll create one for us after the game is officially released. As far as I know we have no power over it!

Yeah, I figured. Those are on farm map levels 10-14 (the guys with the top hats). We'll change the quest to be more clear about where to find those guys.

Interesting, was the path blocked completely with the church in the way?

The artifacts aren't unlocked until you soft reset. The other thing is probably a bug in the prophecy system though. Dawn Fortress is an optional (secret) raid, it's not supposed to unlock Burning Cave, and it's not supposed to give you a new upgrade slot. Our prophecy description system probably made the connection in error, we'll fix it. Oh, do you even have access to Gardens of Eternity yet? I hope nothing went wrong with unlocking that (after beating the previous raid, Witch Woods), because that one is needed to unlock Burning Cave.

Is it always slow when the mouse is in the frame, or just sometimes? Just for testing purposes, does it help when you restart your browser completely? Or when the only thing that runs is the game in a single tab? We've had reports like this in the past, and often they were caused by the browser slowing down when they've been running for a long time, or when they've been restored after your computer was in rest mode, and things like that.

I will PM you and ask for some details. You should definitely get points with your first soft reset, it's not possible in the game to unlock that building without having some 'locked' Ancient Artifacts first. So this might just be a bug. Also the cost for upgrades should be shown when you mouse-over any raider upgrade or Ancient Wisdom upgrade.

Not for now - most of the monsters don't have an associated in-game name yet (just 'in our heads'). What's the specific prophecy you're having trouble with? Most of them don't require specific monsters (only one comes to mind, actually), but they often require a certain member of your raiders to get the last hit or something similar to that, which might make it seem like the kill counter only increases sporadically or slowly.

Stuck meaning they can't find their way out of some corner? Or they're just standing around doing nothing?

Good idea. I'll add this to the to do list, implemented as an optional toggle in the options menu!

I will PM you to ask for some details that could help us reproduce the problem.

This has to do with what progression in this game is all about. It's less about endlessly ascending farm maps and raider levels, and more about seeing how your raiders slowly advance in a raid or are able to clear it faster. Also it opens up a lot once you unlock more and more of the game's features. However early game progression is a common complaint right now, we'll probably have to tweak some things.

It's a secret! I can tell you that it has no immediate use as actual equipment though.

Yup, it's been reported in the forums. Will be fixed in upcoming patch (which has no ETA atm, most devs are gone on weekends)

That's intended. You can imagine it as every raider of that type having a tent to sleep in! :D

Thanks for the feedback. Wow, I posted a huge reply but it didn't seem to post it, it was probably too long. Put as shorty as possible: 1. regen is an anti-scumming mechanic, so you can't enter/hit once/die/repeat to clear farm maps 2. from lvl 50 leveling is slower but gives 4x the stat bonuses. conceptually it's like hitting max level in an MMO, with veeery slow levels as a bonus cherry on top. main progression will be with loot. 3. clicking is just for the very first two or three farm maps. later, we'd rather have players use those clicks to play around with equipment and skill builds 4. farm maps are for XP, most gold you get will be from raids. xp does increase with farm map level!

I won't spoil the exact moment you unlock it, but it's not end game stuff or anything. You will basically get a new building at some point that can be used to soft reset. Soft resetting itself is required to gain access to the ancient artifacts you have farmed in one 'soft-reset' run. Those are used for many things, like Ancient Wisdom (our permanent upgrade system), Raider Upgrades, later on for crafting, and some other stuff. In general when you unlock a new feature of any kind, it's usually connected to a Prophecy that will be entered into your Book of Prophecies

You'll need to gear up a bit! Farm the first raid for a while, also make sure to build a Scholar's Tower for skill books, and a market that sometimes sells equipment as well!

Ah, I see. Yes, that one is supposed to summon on farm maps only. He'll stay there for a while, so you don't have to cancel your raid or anything.

Moving? Mhm... besides deleting and rebuilding it, no. You're right, it would be a nice feature. We'll add it to the to-do list. But I want to note that, later on, you'll probably have more than enough gold to relocate some buildings if they aren't placed as nicely as you would like.

The spike is intended. You'll see it gets much easier once you gear up from raid 4, which is going to take a while, I know, but that's also intended. The game is sectioned off into different 'raid tiers' (the first of which encompasses raids 1 through 3) and the idea was that you'd stick with the same couple of farm maps while you are working on your current raid, until you can beat it and have geared up enough (or unlocked other stuff in the game) to be able to beat higher level farm maps fast enough. Also note that at some point we introduce mechanics that make it worth it to try and get to the highest farm map possible anyways (even if you can't really farm them because it takes too long). For example, every tenth one you beat gives you certain bonuses (the Prophet in your base can tell you all about it). edit: also, farm map balance can be tuned if too many players find it disruptive, of course.

Gold drops from farm monsters do indeed stay the same. But higher level farm monsters give more XP! A large part of your gold income is going to come from raids. That's roughly how it's split, farming = lots of XP/minute, little gold/minute. Raiding = lots of gold/minute, little xp/minute.

There's a use for those already in the game! So don't throw anything away. You'll unlock it later on, you'll see what I mean when you get there :D

Gaining gold will speed up a bit when... well I'd rather not spoil anything. In our internal beta we actually had the problem that Gold was a bit too easy to acquire, so we introduced some additional gold sinks in the late game, and will introduce more with future updates.

There is a (very important) use for unneeded items! But it takes a while to unlock it. Don't throw anything away for now!

Summoned, as in from set bonuses later on? Or the necromancer mercenary? Or just regular monsters? The monster spawns on farm maps and whatever is in the raids are completely separate, so yes that would be intentional.

Thank you, we'll fix it.

It should! Does the console show any red errors? (F12 opens it)

Sorry! We tried quite hard but can't make it work for now. Keep in mind though that you can install other browsers even on Macs.