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We’re talking about the same thing. If they registered that day and their only action is leaving a spammy comment (even if it’s only one comment) than it’s clearly a spammy profile and should be reported. While having multiple spammy comments makes it easier to determine that they’re a spam account, it’s not a requirement.

You shouldn’t be forced to do something, change your recreational activities, to not be flagged as a spam account. How would you like it if, for example:

1. Facebook mandated that you needed to maintain a certain level of activity, by posting 1 status a day, otherwise you’re considered inactive and they’ll remove your account to save space.
2. YouTube required you to upload a video per week, to add to the value of the site.

I’m not nuts. It’s not that difficult and it helps improve the site. You care enough to find this thread, post it in it and reply to me. You obviously care, so why not use the very reasonable and functioning systems in place, instead of trying to disrupt other, legitimate users?

Basically, to sum it up. We all use the site in different ways. Forcing someone to use the site in a way they don’t want isn’t fair. How would you feel if you were forced to do something on the site that you didn’t want to do?

What does facebook or youtube have to do with kong? You are obviously trying to help, I will tone down my response.

Every site has anti bot software/sign ups/catcha/etc. Kong needs something to prevent mass botting of level 1 accounts. There need to be anti spam measures that are not manual user flag related, like all GOOD sites do.

“forcing someone to use the site in a way they don’t want isn’t fair” oh but allowing bots to ruin comment sections is?

I’m just using those as examples of sites that could mandate certain behaviour from their users, but would have very dramatic and devastating affects.

Kongregate’s already had issues with spam bots. Last year (or some time around then) there was a massive, multi-day, thousands of accounts, hundreds of threads spam attack. They build-in security (one of them requiring a badge to post without being auto-hidden) to combat this. If they were going to build any more security, they would have done it then. The reasons they chose not to are kept to themselves, but they chose not to. I would be shocked if it wasn’t for very, very good reasons.

Originally posted by adv0catus:

I’m just using those as examples of sites that could mandate certain behaviour from their users, but would have very dramatic and devastating affects.

Kongregate’s already had issues with spam bots. Last year (or some time around then) there was a massive, multi-day, thousands of accounts, hundreds of threads spam attack. They build-in security (one of them requiring a badge to post without being auto-hidden) to combat this. If they were going to build any more security, they would have done it then. The reasons they chose not to are kept to themselves, but they chose not to. I would be shocked if it wasn’t for very, very good reasons.

Yes, I was here then. I have been here for years and years. The game comments issue is getting worse lately. As for " If they were going to build any more security, they would have done it then. The reasons they chose not to are kept to themselves, but they chose not to. I would be shocked if it wasn’t for very, very good reasons." your logical flaw and appeal to authority may be fine for you, but they are not for me. I want to know why (or why not for that matter). From kong.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

Then I suggest you email support@kongregate.com and discuss it with them. :)

Originally posted by adv0catus:

Then I suggest you email support@kongregate.com and discuss it with them. :)

heh. +1

I was going to suggest the lvl 2 to post thing but that seems to be a heated issue so I am mostly going to avoid it but how many points is it to lvl2 it does not seem like that much work to lvl once.

One thing I have wanted to see since they added being able to vote on comments is when you go to your comments in your profile I would like to see what each comment is rated or a way to click on it and go to your comment. Preferably the first one since I have 563 comments now. I want this so I can see which comments were helpful and liked by people and which were not.

It’s the principle of the matter. Even if it’s only a few points, you’re forcing behaviour onto someone that they don’t want. This is a recreational site, after all.

I agree with the comments. It’s been suggested many times before and I wish they’d implement it. I can’t see it being overly difficult.

My question in trying to find a compromise is being a gamer I’m not really sure but what do others use the sight for chatting or is it just non badge games. And I agree more people need to just flag the comments and not comment on the comment cause that just compounds the problem. That is actual why I finally got around to posting on this page since I have been flagging more and more comments recently. I also wonder what the sign up requirements are? I may have to log out and go through creating a new account to see. A lot of time a simple type the number in a picture can stop a lot of nonsense.

You need to pick a username, input your birth date, input an email address and solve a CAPTCHA. The security for account creation is lax. That’s intentional, for some reason.

“CAPTCHA. The security for account creation is lax. That’s intentional, for some reason.”

To make sure it’s a person not a bot.

Originally posted by NewAge:

“CAPTCHA. The security for account creation is lax. That’s intentional, for some reason.”

To make sure it’s a person not a bot.

I know. I mean the security in general is lax.

AAHHHRRRGGHH!!
Why the fkcu did you change the language? If I borwse Site I do not want some meshed warped sht between egnlish an german, i want it in ENGLISH: I’ts anoying aenough if some ads mess with that, but now kong does it? and where are the settings so i can friggin choose?
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let me change that setting somewhere and don’t just sort me into your machinery.

Scroll to the bottom and you’ll see the options for the different languages.

Ok, Kongregate is doing great as it is, but let’s face it, It’s not a major competitor. By competitor, I mean a website that has almost as many users as Facebook. There are simple ways we can do this really, all the programmers need to do is:

*First, get some type of video tool, like you-tube, just a little different.

*Reward Users for inviting friends to Kongregate (( successfully inviting them, not only sending, the friend must sign up for the sender to be rewarded ))

*Make more social Mobil apps, so far, chatting has not been accessible in Kong Arcade (( the mobile gaming app for Kongergate, the Multi-player games are not accessible though ))

*Begin to advertise more, make commercials, but whatever you do, do not be cheap about it. Make the advertisement clear, but not aggressive.

That is all, i hope you at least consider what I have said.

• It’s a very different site to Facebook. Facebook is social networking, Kong doesn’t intend to compete in the social networking market. If it wanted to do that, they’d make an effort to personalise accounts a lot more, including ‘like’ pages, ‘interests’ and ‘photos’. Kong attracts a smaller number of people because the target audience is really gamers – unlike Facebook which is going for everyone it can. There is a youtube tool called “Kongretube”.
• Users are already rewarded for having friends sign up. Check out this section of the FAQ. 15 points on sign up and up to 13 points for each level up (up to level 10).
• Since chat runs through flash, that’s going to be difficult since iOS doesn’t have flash support and Android has recently dropped flash support. You’re able to access chat on both platforms, but you have to do it through a browser with flash enabled which makes it difficult to navigate. Unless some alternate method of chat is designed, it’s unlikely this will happen since the number of users who only have access to a mobile device and use the site probably wouldn’t justify the investment. In addition to this, Kongregate recently invested quite a bit of money in promoting mobile developers, we should see some new mobile games soon. (Sheep Happens and Tyrant being the most recent ones).
• From what I’m aware, Kongregate is advertised in Gamestop magazines and such.

I suggest that Kongregate gets more moderators that actually do there job.

Originally posted by SpoonedByALlama:

I suggest that Kongregate gets more moderators that actually do there job.

They’re volunteers and the administration is always putting in the massive background effort to add more moderators.

Not to mention the process (as outlined in the FAQ) does take a while. Remember you can always use GlobalModFriend to find a mod that may be online if the one in your room isn’t responding, and if you have any mod suggestions, try emailing support@kongregate.com to bring them to the admin’s attention.

And if you’re concerned they’re not doing their job, you can always bring it up with them privately or report them to administration if necessary. We try our best.

I hope you don’t mean me… Llama :(

Stots, it’s a misconception that moderation is a job. That’s why I made a point to say they’re volunteers, because by definition, it’s not a job. Something that needs to be better understood by the average user is that moderators don’t have to moderate, at least all the time. They’re regular users too, that enjoy the site and using it, and just happen to have a few extra buttons they can use. They’re users first and moderators second, and sometimes they just really, really want to play that new game, or do the BotD, or whatever. Life comes first, too, over Kongregate and moderation. There’s certain activity levels that need to be reached, sure, but they’re not extreme. There’s also no quota or required number of silences and/or bans a moderator needs to make.

Correction noted, I should’ve said that. I meant it more in the sense that the mod is there – active and chatting (so not necessarily preoccupied by a game) but not warning/silencing if someone’s disturbing chat (which is what I assumed Llama meant by ‘not doing their job’).

But you’re right, volunteers.

After seeing this, what do you guys think about an option to preview your posts to check stuff like formatting? Yeah, editing does exist, but I wouldn’t want to go through a large post I already posted to fix stuff like broken quotes or images.

Originally posted by randomboy839:

After seeing this, what do you guys think about an option to preview your posts to check stuff like formatting? Yeah, editing does exist, but I wouldn’t want to go through a large post I already posted to fix stuff like broken quotes or images.

On top of that, it seems the vast majority of the posters on the forums don’t even know the edit button exists.

Dear kong.

Although this profile is fairly new I had an account starting in 08 which carried on until late 2012. Kong used to be a lot more fun. I know it isn’t your fault, a lot of gamers and game developers are focusing on mobile gaming and apps because they can make more money than they could developing flash games. I feel that due to a decrease in volume of good games perhaps you should promote some older games that the new generation of kong hasn’t played. In my opinion the best years for this site were ‘10 and ’11. There were a lot of great tower defence, platform and rpg games coming out every couple weeks. I can’t say i’ve been really hooked on a game lately. I tend to play the new games but only for short periods and I often go back to my old favourites. I’m not a console or mobile gamer in fact other than kong my gaming consists of nes and super nes emulators which is fairly infrequent. I have always liked the badge system and the quests were fun for a while but it all feels pretty stale these days. The badge of the day was a great idea but maybe it should be expanded for multiple game genres. There’s a lot of good games with badges. Maybe you could have a developer of the day, I know a lot of developers have older games that were never badged but are still in the 3.5 to 4 star range and are a lot of fun. You could hold competitions for some of the more challenging games like meat boy or moneyseize, they could span a few hours and require you to get the impossible badge and reward you with more than the 60 points the badge is worth or even a few kreds. I don’t know how feasible my ideas are but I don’t feel like anything exciting is happening here anymore. It used to be a great community and now its lacking. Maybe its me getting older and not being as excited about gaming or maybe its you; either way i hope you do something interesting soon.

marcelproust, regular users have noticed the severe drought in good games lately. We’ve been trying really hard to find older games to suggest badges for. I really encourage you to do the same. :D