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One of my friends claim to be seeing this ‘are you running ad-blocker?’ thing, even though they don’t have ad-blocker.

 
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I make Kongbot unhappy every day.

This makes me sad.

But Im not disabling it. :)

 
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And rather humorously, blocking the “Remove AdBlocker” ads has an interesting side effect. It’s also removed the Kongregate logo from it’s usual position at the top left portion of the screen. So I’m no longer playing on Kongregate, I’m just playing on some generic gaming website. XD

 
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Kong is the very reason I installed an ad blocker, get some ads that dont require my CPU power and consume my battery more than necessary (read: still images/text) and I will deactivate it.

 
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Originally posted by Fricknmaniac:

And rather humorously, blocking the “Remove AdBlocker” ads has an interesting side effect. It’s also removed the Kongregate logo from it’s usual position at the top left portion of the screen. So I’m no longer playing on Kongregate, I’m just playing on some generic gaming website. XD

I think you did something wrong when you blocked it, because it didn’t do that for me.

 
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Originally posted by Thebum06:
Originally posted by Fricknmaniac:

And rather humorously, blocking the “Remove AdBlocker” ads has an interesting side effect. It’s also removed the Kongregate logo from it’s usual position at the top left portion of the screen. So I’m no longer playing on Kongregate, I’m just playing on some generic gaming website. XD

I think you did something wrong when you blocked it, because it didn’t do that for me.

Well, I blocked each of the images which came up, and there were four different sources, so I probably just blocked more of them than you did.

 
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Originally posted by Fricknmaniac:
Originally posted by Thebum06:
Originally posted by Fricknmaniac:

And rather humorously, blocking the “Remove AdBlocker” ads has an interesting side effect. It’s also removed the Kongregate logo from it’s usual position at the top left portion of the screen. So I’m no longer playing on Kongregate, I’m just playing on some generic gaming website. XD

I think you did something wrong when you blocked it, because it didn’t do that for me.

Well, I blocked each of the images which came up, and there were four different sources, so I probably just blocked more of them than you did.

Maybe you blocked the whole images folder.
ie, instead of *.kongregate.com/images/help_devs_leaderboard.png?* you did *.kongregate.com/images/*.

Open your list of blocked elements and fix it.

 
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Originally posted by Senekis93:

Maybe you blocked the whole images folder.
ie, instead of *.kongregate.com/images/help_devs_leaderboard.png?* you did *.kongregate.com/images/*.

Open your list of blocked elements and fix it.

Yup, that’s what I did. Honestly though, it’s kind of nice to have the entire site such a generic, bland, and nameless site. I think I might keep it this way.

 
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i’d leave the ad’s on, if they didn’t serve **** 30 second long commercials with no cancel in front of MMOG games, that require speed to do things in a spawned tab. commercials w/o a cancel = block. if kong could separate animated, static and video ads into different hosts or allow us to turn off videos i’d be ok with leaving the ads on.

the best thing would be a switch, allow us to turn off commercials in upto say 10 favorited games. then everything else on the site would still show the commercials.

cause if a favorited game needs to reload in a separate tab and you see the same **** commercial for the tenth time in 30 minutes, you’d better expect players are gonna turn off the ads..

 
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how about they don’t do video ads…some of us have bandwidth caps….

 
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So here’s my issue with ads. I don’t mind supporting a site, but when advertising companies have been known to let malware and malicious code to be run it becomes a matter of system security. Sorry, I run an adblocker because I want my system to be secure. I don’t mind seeing ads. Take reddit.com for example, i’ve whitelisted their site because they promised they would make sure NONE of their ads contain malicious code or malware. If Kong can make that promise, I will whitelist the site. Until then I’m sick of seeing Kongbot multiple times on a page and will be blocking that image as well.

 
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I hope blocking things per adblock is not your only line of defence. Use anti-virus software, play games on Kong on an account with restricted rights, get an IDS or switch completely to linux (though this may bring different problems). But of course you have a valid point with that.

Also companies tend to promise lots of stuff. I guess they have revealed at least some of their counter meassures? Malware rarely gets stopped by promises. Still would be cool if Kong could talk about this problem during one of their DOOM LAN parties professional meetings.

 
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Yeah, I have an adblocker on because I don’t respond positively to ads. It doesn’t do anybody any good for me to disable my adblock, honestly—ad revenue is a dying business model, anyway.

 
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i have a solution! make using an ad blocker against the rules, everyone will still use them, no one will be happy about the sad little kong bot, but no one will be able to moan about it . . .

joking aside though, I admit to using one, I have to, if I run ads my computer freezes when a flash based ones comes along or a movie before the game, i don’t block google ad words though, no chance of browser crashing flash there. I buy kreds now and again, i try to help out that way, but honestly, if I couldn’t use an ad block I couldn’t use the site, and yes, i am going to get Kong+ at some point to pay for this.

i have to agree with others in here, its an arms race, they keep making them bigger and brighter to grab our attention, we will find ways of ignoring them, they make them have shiny cursors and smilies to get our kids to click and download the junk because they know no better we have to secure our computers against that happening,

if you were to say ‘we screen every one to make sure its not annoying, or flashy or god forbid one of the smiley ones that shouts hello at you every few seconds’ there might be a few who will white list you, it just comes down which is going to cost more, the employing of a lackie to sift though them, or the loss of revenue by not having whitelisters

 
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Nope! I support the developers for making awesome games, plus, I don’t even find the ads annoying. Sometimes they can even give me a good laugh (for example the ads that were translated from English to Romanian using Google Translate: eg. impusca 5 rechini (shot 5 sharks) and in the image appears a Roman city with 5 buildings).

 
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Originally posted by Ruudiluca:

One of my friends claim to be seeing this ‘are you running ad-blocker?’ thing, even though they don’t have ad-blocker.

Many people are. Me, for example. Various security software will trigger Kongregate’s ad-blocker message.

I will allow Kong to make me see adverts as payment for playing games here.

I won’t allow an unlimited number of websites to run an unlimited number of scripts on my PC, doing who knows what.

Since Kong’s current advertising includes the latter, my security software blocks it as a side-effect.

Shame, really.

 
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I don’t so much mind the ads, it’s the cookies placed by ad companies that I don’t want. I have whitelisted kong, but I manually denied the ad cookies or cookies I otherwise didn’t recognise. This probably kept the ads from showing and triggering that wonderful little robot we all know and love. :)

 
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how funny, they make me feel guilty too lol

 
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Originally posted by Yawgmoth:

I hope blocking things per adblock is not your only line of defence. Use anti-virus software, play games on Kong on an account with restricted rights, get an IDS or switch completely to linux (though this may bring different problems).

Or have some common sense and save your computer from a resource-hungry av, keep using your OS and save yourself any ammount of money you were going to waste into unnecessary software.

 
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Or have some common sense and save your computer from a resource-hungry av, …

How on earth is this common sense? This is security vs comfort. You get a little slower and your protection gets a lot better. I don’t see any reason why the distadvatages should outweight the advatages so much that you don’t even neeed any arguments for not using anti-virus software. Using only common sense against malware is as safe as “pulling out” for birth control. It might or might not work for some time but the one day it doesn’t you will be very sorry.

And using adblock without avs won’t get you much further. Ads are not the only way to get infected. How is adblock or common sense going to protect you, if a site you are using commonly gets hacked and a local threat gets set up? Hell… you don’t even need to go on a site to get infected. Some worms just go systematically from IP to IP and check if there are some vulnerabilities. Of course this is where a firewall jumps in but isn’t that just another annoying resource hungry software?

keep using your OS

How about you let the guy with the security concerns decide? Or if you want to help his decision give some arguments how keeping your OS will help him get safer. Linux may have disadvatages but security is surely not one of them. For example you can decide way more accurate what things can do and what not. I wouldn’t recommand any normal user to switch to linux but if someone is concerned about his security that’s the best way to go (especially if you take money into account).

and save yourself any ammount of money you were going to waste

You can get any of my suggestions without paying a single cent. It is time which you will pay with.

into unnecessary software

Some of the things I said were indeed unnecessary. And they were listed with a purpose. Total security is an illusion. No matter what you do there will always be a way to get through your defences. Even if you use encryption that can’t be brute forced someone could still kidnap you and start cutting off your fingers (or those of your loved ones) until you give away your password. So all you can do is try to make the effort not worth the trouble for the opposing party.


His argument was that ads can be a security risk and that’s why he doesn’t allow them on Kong. If it wouldn’t cost anything I’d say “Go for it.” without any hesitation. But it affects the income of Kongregate and the income of developers. So he will have to do an informed decision. To do such a decision it is best to know as many options as possible. In my opinion there is not much security added through adblock if you already have a mix of firewall, anti-virus software and don’t do anything too stupid. But if he knows of the alternatives and the consequences and comes to a different conclusion that’s fine with me. I respect that.

 
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If that’s his only argument, he’d be better off with NoScript.
Also, AB+ isn’t security software, it’s a cosmetic tool.

I think common sense is the best anti malware ever.
I’ve cleaned a lot of computers and all of them had firewalls and avs… plus a bunch of toolbars that occupied half of the browser’s screen, Ares or some similar “please infect me” tool and most of had IE as the default browser. The list could go on.

To keep it short; the problems wasn’t the software or the lack of it, but the users being idiots.

And no, common sense won’t save you from a hacker who set your computer as a target, but neither will an antivirus or a different OS. Also, while there’s an abysmal difference between the ammount of malware programmed for Windows and that for Linux, the later isn’t immune.

I have the antivirus disabled like 99% of the time and I bet that I’ve had less viruses in my whole life than what the average user (with an antivirus) gets in a month, and as you said, it’s good to let him know all of the available options; what I said is a perfectly acceptable option for users concerned with performance.

 
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FYI, I use AdBlock and NoScript and use MS Security Essentials. I have had issues where enabling ads on sites that don’t pre-screen ads enabled a malicious script to run and install something without my knowledge. NoScript works, but not on everything — especially ads when you whitelist a site. I use both NoScript and AdBlock on my Linux install as well as Windows.

Back when the internet first got started, you could be safe as long as you visited sites that you trusted. This is no longer the case if these sites have ads or get hacked. You could get away without running an antivirus software if you run NoScript and AdBlock in Firefox and use common sense.

I’ve cleaned my fair share of computers where people claim that they don’t do stupid things and still get malware. Not saying this isn’t possible, but I agree that a lot of times this is a result of idiocy by the user. Even given that, I don’t trust internet ad companies because they have proven time and time again to not screen their ads. If it was just a simple image (and yes I realize images can be malicious too), I’d be ok with seeing ads. Because these ads use any combo of javascript and Flash, I prefer to not take the chance.

Now, that said, K+ is a good alternative to blocking ads if you’re concerned about security. However, this is a strategy that every site that offers a service that people tend to abuse use of (like Pandora for example) and it’s becoming a thing that is nickle and dimeing people. Eventually I’ll get around to budgeting in K+, but right now I haven’t had the time since I mainly use Kong at work. :P

 
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I think common sense is the best anti malware ever.

Definitely true for everything with a high interaction with the user. Best tool against phishing. But the lower the amount of interaction the less effective this tool gets. And some malware doesn’t need any interaction with the user at all.

… what I said is a perfectly acceptable option for users concerned with performance.

Agreed.

You could get away without running an antivirus software if you run NoScript and AdBlock in Firefox and use common sense.

That’s where I don’t want to take chances. Those two are just locking some of the doors to your computer. Common sense will also help you to close some doors, not giving the keys away to strangers and not accepting large wooden horses. But the second an invader finds a broken or even open door you are pretty much defenceless. I prefer to have a sentinel gun on the inside that targets anything suspicious. Even if it costs me resources I could otherwise use elsewhere. Of course if my enemy is a predetor in stealth mode… well we all run out of luck sometime ;o). But for me it is a good tradeoff between performance and security. Though everyone has to make this decision on his own. Only thing I don’t like is whining around how bad everything is without reflecting for a second about the whole situation, not just your side.

 
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The Kongregate developers made the conscious choice to have adverts which were time-consuming, delaying or irritating. If the adverts were just banners at the top of the page, I’d have no problem. But when ads become a hindrance, if I as a person am offered a free, simple solution to that hindrance, I will take it. :|

 
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Originally posted by Gnomeboy:

The Kongregate developers made the conscious choice to have adverts which were time-consuming, delaying or irritating. If the adverts were just banners at the top of the page, I’d have no problem. But when ads become a hindrance, if I as a person am offered a free, simple solution to that hindrance, I will take it. :|

Devs have no say in what ads are shwn.