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The armorgames or mochi or mofunzone aren’t ads they are sites. It’s like mgm studios before a movie.

Originally posted by Fair_play:

The armorgames or mochi or mofunzone aren’t ads they are sites. It’s like mgm studios before a movie.

Using this logic, I have never seen a single ad on Kongregate, only a bunch of sites.

Originally posted by NaturalReject:

Originally posted by Fair_play:

The armorgames or mochi or mofunzone aren’t ads they are sites. It’s like mgm studios before a movie.

Using this logic, I have never seen a single ad on Kongregate, only a bunch of sites.

Yes, but ArmorGames and Mochi created the game, unlike the ads for Evony, which did not.

I was cool with having my adblocker on until I saw a video ad running off to the side of my game. Not the one that plays before it, but one that played while my game was on. Not cool

Originally posted by chesshawk:

Yes, but ArmorGames and Mochi created the game, unlike the ads for Evony, which did not.

First of all, ArmorGames (or any other of the game sites mentioned) did not create the games that say ArmorGames. They sponsor games, which means they pay in order to have their logo and links within a game. It’s actually quite freaking clever too, as there isn’t any adblocker (that I know of at least) that will remove this type of advertisement.

Secondly, even in those cases where the game was actually made by ArmorGames (or any other sponsoring website), plastering their logo and links all over the game is still advertisement. It’s just that it’s really cheap if it’s their game.

I think the word Fair_play was looking for was ‘branding’.

Kongregate was awesome until they whored themselves out to GameStop. Now we’re doing nothing but going downhill. Really sad.

Definitely not getting any money from me. If I want to make a donation to a dev I think is worth it, it will be a private one. That way they get exactly what I want to give them anyway.

Originally posted by catInASuit:

Kongregate was awesome until they whored themselves out to GameStop. Now we’re doing nothing but going downhill. Really sad.

Definitely not getting any money from me. If I want to make a donation to a dev I think is worth it, it will be a private one. That way they get exactly what I want to give them anyway.

You do realize they take absolutely no money from the donations, and you can enter a custom number of how much you want to give…

Originally posted by Darkscanner:

Originally posted by catInASuit:

Kongregate was awesome until they whored themselves out to GameStop. Now we’re doing nothing but going downhill. Really sad.

Definitely not getting any money from me. If I want to make a donation to a dev I think is worth it, it will be a private one. That way they get exactly what I want to give them anyway.

You do realize they take absolutely no money from the donations, and you can enter a custom number of how much you want to give…

If you’re talking about kreds and tip jars, I don’t know if you realise, but they make money off that too. It was even mentioned in this exact thread.

Down with GameStop! They’re trying to make this site actually survive! Go bankrupt! We don’t want you here!

Typical ignorance, really. All you want is free, free, free, and when someone either goes bankrupt or tries to get money to prevent that, they’re the worst thing in the world.

Originally posted by Darkruler2005:

Down with GameStop! They’re trying to make this site actually survive! Go bankrupt! We don’t want you here!

Typical ignorance, really. All you want is free, free, free, and when someone either goes bankrupt or tries to get money to prevent that, they’re the worst thing in the world.

I don’t care if sites try to make money. It’s when they do it poorly that there’s a problem.

Kongregate has bad ads. There’s no getting around that – they make all of the mistakes that drove people to Ad Blockers in the first place. Big, glaring banners for crappy games, websites that have no meaningful or relevant content. Forced Ad viewings to get to content you want. Ads that you, quite honestly, don’t want anyone walking by to see.

I have no problems white-listing websites. I’m not, however, going to be guilt-tripped into seeing the shit I was specifically trying to avoid.

I aint editorialize on this, but I got to say; why do I see KongBot complaining if I have downloaded adblocker+ but disabled it in kongregate? You’re actually encouraging me to turn it back on

And you know, the most invasive ads comes outside of kongregate, that is why I have adblocker dowloaded and active outside of kongregate so there is no way I’m going to remove my adblocker+ just to remove KongBot banner

This happened on my home computer on a different account without a k+ membership unlike this accout has

How do you guys kep getting flashing/noisy ads? I’m not sure if it’s because I live in NZ/different country…

First time back here in a long time. I got the Your running Ad Blocker pop-up which btw re-started the game I was playing when it went back to it. I am a reasonable guy and see their point so I add kongregate.com to my white list in my Ad Blocker but then see the message come up again. One thing I wont do to play games on this site is open my system up to links and flash ads from third party sources. I run no script and ad blocker for a reason, which is to remain as secure as possible. I will un-block sites from both that I trust. I do not expect something for nothing but you can not expect me to just blindly open myself up to 3rd party flash content that I have no way of trusting or verifying as secure. I just think you need customer feedback on this policy to determine it’s effect on your user, customer base. With Christmas, birthdays and two sons I spend on average of $300-$400 per year at our local gamestop and also online for deals on pre-owned games so I am a paying customer, not just some dude complaining.

I’m with mrnukem. I whitelisted kongregate.com in my adblock+ settings. I also have NoScript running and have kongregate.com whitelisted there too. I still get the banner that tells me to “Disable ad-blockers on Kongregate.com…”. Clearly the instructions need updating.

I guess you also recently decided to make the page reload or something if you aren’t seeing ads? Quite clever. Also annoying. If it keeps up I guess I’ll have to leave for good.

Originally posted by Groundal:

As soon as i saw the kongbot anouncement, i tried removing my adblock, cause i agree i’d like to help developers. But the very first ads that appeared where not static, too colorful, etc. So i put it back. I took the time to come to the forum just to tell you that. Kongregate had just ONE chance to have people disable their adblockers just after they saw the kongbot anouncement, but the site was not ready, so people will turn their adblock back on. Plus, the message says “shares ad revenue with game developers” but doesnt say how much it shares, so it could be just 5% which wouldn’t be enough for me to consider disabling my adblocker. When there is an imprecision, you can assume it is deliberate 99% of the time. Try again Kongregate !

kong does not say “shares ad revenue with game developers”
kong says “shares ad revenue game developers”

“shares ad revenue game developers” ≠ “shares ad revenue with game developers”

Its weird how they are advertising an ad blocker through an ad…(I think its an ad blocker, I never read it though)

I’m willing to meet you folks partway on this, but I do have some suggestions regarding the nature of ads (and perhaps tips for the advertisers themselves):

1. Making your ad flashy, animated, and hard to ignore also makes your ad annoying. Ads like this tempt me to turn my adblocker back on, and tend to lower my opinion of the product advertized. (or at least their ad consultants). Annoying potential customers tends to drive them off, not attract them.

2. Some advertizes live on the belief that sex sells. Except with gamers it really doesn’t. Cheesecake pictures generally tell most gamers that the game has no real content, and that the sponsor thinks that gamers are shallow nitwits who are easily conned. Again, insulting your potential customers is not a good business model. There are plenty of places on the net which are far better sources of that sort content anyway. People come here to play, not to leer.

3. If you’re actually reading the comments section (with a thick skin), then you are doing at least one thing right. Knowing your potential customers is the first step in successfully appealing to some of them. Just remember to try and think of (the teaming masses of ‘us’ as potential clients deserving respect, rather than shallow dupes to be skinned (an attitude far too common in the industry) and you’ll have a fighting chance.

Some advertizes live on the belief that sex sells. Except with gamers it really doesn’t.

Mind to post a reliable source with stats backing that argument?
I find it hard to believe that sex doesn’t sell in a site full of male teenagers.

I use Ad Blocker. Saw Kong wanted it off. Turned it off for kong. It’s not much to ask. Kong does a lot for us. Go Kong.

Originally posted by Senekis93:

Some advertizes live on the belief that sex sells. Except with gamers it really doesn’t.

Mind to post a reliable source with stats backing that argument?
I find it hard to believe that sex doesn’t sell in a site full of male teenagers.

There was a study done in the US that was reported in the UK showing where ads were sexed up 70% or so of their target audience didn’t ‘care’. In short they saw the sex, but it didn’t sell the product to them. (I’ll let you find it yourself.)

Which, makes sense, I’m not going to buy anti-ballsack aging cream because a girl’s boobs fell out of a bikini top. Hell no, I’m going to look at the boobs and move on. No sane consumer would watch a ‘sexed’ up ad and go “hey if i get that it’ll happen to me!” or whatnot.

I should note that advertising is less about the conscious mind the target audience. So whether or not someone thinks that they’re more or less likely to buy a product based on advertising isn’t nearly as much of a factor as one might initially think.

Originally posted by PR2_STORY:

I use Ad Blocker. Saw Kong wanted it off. Turned it off for kong. It’s not much to ask. Kong does a lot for us. Go Kong.

I use Ad Blocker. Saw Kong wanted it off. Blocked their message that said they want it off.

Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

Originally posted by PR2_STORY:

I use Ad Blocker. Saw Kong wanted it off. Turned it off for kong. It’s not much to ask. Kong does a lot for us. Go Kong.

I use Ad Blocker. Saw Kong wanted it off. Blocked their message that said they want it off.

Yes because that sure shows how grateful you are. I mean it’s not like they give you all of this for free right? Oh wait, they do.

I think they should make like 2000 flashy kongbot ads. Let’s see all of you guys block all of them.

It’d only take about 5 minutes, unless they were smart about it.

I’m not grateful at all. Without Kong, I’d just be forced to spend my time on one of the many other sites that offer the same things… Wouldn’t really hurt all that much, though I think any sort of ‘attachment’ to a specific site is a bit silly.