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Battalion: Arena has now been completely removed from Kongregate.

 
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Originally posted by racefan12:

Battalion: Arena has now been completely removed from Kongregate.

No! No! NO!
Not another repetition of grim history… I hope and assume this removal will be temporal

You see, Battalion: Arena has always suffered from technical issues. While game is being removed, urbansquall and his/her team will likely have time to renew and fix servers or coding in game. I hope it’s like renovation where you temporarily move away from your house and after a certain time, you’ll return in your newly renovated house

Gosh, I truly wish things would be like that but if not… caesary effect happens (not because of copyright issues)

 
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Racefan12 is correct… Battalion: Arena is no more (see my forum post here). I know a lot of people are sad about it! It’s hard when a game we love dies.

 
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Originally posted by trickyrodent:
The developer (Urban Squall) got acquired by Zynga a couple years back

Well there’s your problem right there.

 
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i wish i understood why kong keeps badges on games even after they have been deleted.

 
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The issue with Ceasary was, at that time, a 1-off issue so we kept the badges around. With more and more games with badges being taken down (with Battalion being the second one actually taken down), we’re reviewing our policy going forward on this. We don’t want badges that are impossible to get taunting players who never got them, but we also don’t want players who did get the badges to just have them wiped from their badge history. With how things are set up right now, we can’t just flick a switch and just turn it off in places if it isn’t earned, so this will take a little time for us to figure out how we want to go forward on it. Just know that we do know what we have now isn’t 100% ideal and we’re working on it.

 
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Originally posted by rawismojo:

The issue with Ceasary was, at that time, a 1-off issue so we kept the badges around. With more and more games with badges being taken down (with Battalion being the second one actually taken down), we’re reviewing our policy going forward on this. We don’t want badges that are impossible to get taunting players who never got them, but we also don’t want players who did get the badges to just have them wiped from their badge history. With how things are set up right now, we can’t just flick a switch and just turn it off in places if it isn’t earned, so this will take a little time for us to figure out how we want to go forward on it. Just know that we do know what we have now isn’t 100% ideal and we’re working on it.

The best thing I can think of is when you are going to badge a game, contact the developer (I assume you do already, anyways). To get their game badged, they need to agree to not take down their game. If, for some reason, in the future they need to or want to, they need to contact the administration first (like, 2 weeks notice) and go from there. Maybe compensate those that have earned the badge(s) with Kreds or something.

 
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The best thing I can think of, if it can be programmed, would be keeping the badges in the line-up of those who’ve earned them, and taking them off for those who haven’t.

An alternative is prioritising the badges to be moved to another appropriate game. Can images be changed?

 
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Originally posted by rawismojo:

The issue with Ceasary was, at that time, a 1-off issue so we kept the badges around. With more and more games with badges being taken down (with Battalion being the second one actually taken down), we’re reviewing our policy going forward on this. We don’t want badges that are impossible to get taunting players who never got them, but we also don’t want players who did get the badges to just have them wiped from their badge history. With how things are set up right now, we can’t just flick a switch and just turn it off in places if it isn’t earned, so this will take a little time for us to figure out how we want to go forward on it. Just know that we do know what we have now isn’t 100% ideal and we’re working on it.

im not a programmer so i dont know how possible this is, but would this work?

everyone who has the badges for caesary and battalion arena you would award another identical badge but maybe change 1 character or something so its different. then delete the other one. that way everyone keeps their badges. possibly make the badge look different(make it shiny or something) to signify it is a retired badge.

 
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Originally posted by Bilious:

Can images be changed?

It happened once with the Effing Meteors medium badge.

 
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Originally posted by bobby71983:
Originally posted by rawismojo:

The issue with Ceasary was, at that time, a 1-off issue so we kept the badges around. With more and more games with badges being taken down (with Battalion being the second one actually taken down), we’re reviewing our policy going forward on this. We don’t want badges that are impossible to get taunting players who never got them, but we also don’t want players who did get the badges to just have them wiped from their badge history. With how things are set up right now, we can’t just flick a switch and just turn it off in places if it isn’t earned, so this will take a little time for us to figure out how we want to go forward on it. Just know that we do know what we have now isn’t 100% ideal and we’re working on it.

im not a programmer so i dont know how possible this is, but would this work?

everyone who has the badges for caesary and battalion arena you would award another identical badge but maybe change 1 character or something so its different. then delete the other one. that way everyone keeps their badges. possibly make the badge look different(make it shiny or something) to signify it is a retired badge.

Using this method wouldn’t you have to make the identical badges worth 0 points then? That may work, but I would think it would be annoying to manually award all those thousands of people the extra badge.

edit: Maybe it could be so that the badges are moved to Senatary and those who have the Caesary badges would get the Senatary badges but get 0 points for them.

 
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Couldn’t the two Battalion: Arena badges be moved to another of the Battalion games and the criteria for achieving the badges be edited to fit their new host game?

 
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It’s so sad when one of our most beloved games gets removed :(

I’ll edit OP tomorrow. Too tired ATM
I think I’m one of the lucky ones who got the badges before game died… I feel sorry towards all those who are now relying on upcoming transfer badges which as a matter of fact may never appear

 
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I wouldn’t count on transfer badges as a likely solution. While some games are indeed similar (or very similar), all badges are tailored for that specific game. The chances that we decide on transferring retired badges to a new game are quite small.

 
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Originally posted by rawismojo:

I wouldn’t count on transfer badges as a likely solution. While some games are indeed similar (or very similar), all badges are tailored for that specific game. The chances that we decide on transferring retired badges to a new game are quite small.

Small chance but still possible :-P
I’ll pray to the badge Gods (Greg and Raw) that these poor little orphaned badges find a new warm home C:

 
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Suspect the second badge of Several Journeys of Reemus Chapter 4 Beastly Blackhole of Bureaucracy is recently broken. Apart from my personal experience, of 7 most recent comments 4 are reporting this problem:

“i did all 3 endings and got none of the badges and im not getting the badge of the day bc of this come on "
“can not get the badges!!!!!!!!”
“what? i’ve completed this game twice and its saying I havent completed it?”
“It didn’t give me the badges??? ".

It also appears that kong staff responsible for handing out badges went to their Easter earlier, I’ve used “report missing achievements” twice on this game to no anvil (they used to give me my badge w/in 24hrs)

 
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Several things here

  1. I got the BoTD yesterday without problems
  2. I have reported another problem (not badge relationed) two days ago and the next day i got an email from the administrators.
  3. When you report a missing achievement, the process is slower. I supposse they get lots of them and that they will need to be sure that there is a problem.
  4. If you reported the badge with a good screenshoot, you will get your points.
  5. I am sure that there will be at least one kong staff responsible for the website.
 
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Originally posted by osanseviero:

Several things here

  1. I got the BoTD yesterday without problems
  2. I have reported another problem (not badge relationed) two days ago and the next day i got an email from the administrators.
  3. When you report a missing achievement, the process is slower. I supposse they get lots of them and that they will need to be sure that there is a problem.
  4. If you reported the badge with a good screenshoot, you will get your points.
  5. I am sure that there will be at least one kong staff responsible for the website.

Thanks, but
1. Yes I got BOTD but not “the second badge”, and from what I have observed the badge system’s bit unstable these few days (I think starting last Saturday) – just check the number of people saying “no badge”.
2. No you wont get emails, only PMs from kong staff if you report a missing badge.
3. As I said, “they used to give me my badge w/in 24hrs”. In my konglife I had around 8 or so badges handed to me this way, none of them took more than 24hours (the fastest one’s done within 3hrs), which is why I’m wondering if they had a nice happy early Easter :p
4. This’s what I uploaded to kong (and Yes I uploaded with kong interface in the process), looks good enough? http://i.imgur.com/W6BbW.png (to save some time: I refreshed the game. I repeated all 3 endings not once but 2 and 1/3 times. I tried it on both chrome/winXP and ffox/ubuntu. nothing helps.)
5. Rawismojo’s clearly stationed, but I’d imagine not every kong staff responsible for the website would be responsible for the badge.

and no, the point of this post is not to cry “omfg give me my pts”, but more to raise a point related to OP: could it be a sort-of-common problem?

 
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I’ve actually never had a missing badge awarded to me in less than 24 hours, so it’s quite possible your experience isn’t typical (that and it’s also possible that BoTD reports are getting extra priority).

Screenshot looks adequate to me, though I think they recommend you actually being in the chat tab instead of the achievements tab (of course, it’s also possible that I’m imagining that part).


As for the transfer of badges, that actually has happened before (a badge on Draw Play 2 was moved to Draw Play 3 after the former was removed).

To get their game badged, they need to agree to not take down their game. If, for some reason, in the future they need to or want to, they need to contact the administration first (like, 2 weeks notice) and go from there.

If I’m not mistaken, it was Kongregate themselves that removed the game, not the developer.

 
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Originally posted by duskshine:
Originally posted by osanseviero:

Several things here

  1. I got the BoTD yesterday without problems
  2. I have reported another problem (not badge relationed) two days ago and the next day i got an email from the administrators.
  3. When you report a missing achievement, the process is slower. I supposse they get lots of them and that they will need to be sure that there is a problem.
  4. If you reported the badge with a good screenshoot, you will get your points.
  5. I am sure that there will be at least one kong staff responsible for the website.


Thanks, but
1. Yes I got BOTD but not “the second badge”, and from what I have observed the badge system’s bit unstable these few days (I think starting last Saturday) – just check the number of people saying “no badge”.

3. As I said, “they used to give me my badge w/in 24hrs”. In my konglife I had around 8 or so badges handed to me this way, none of them took more than 24hours (the fastest one’s done within 3hrs), which is why I’m wondering if they had a nice happy early Easter :p

Ive gotten one badge after 3 days of reporting. It probably depends on which time of the year. Also, the day I got the BoTD I got the second badge

 
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Heroes of Gaia – is it me, or badges are really broken?

 
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Originally posted by stratus169:

Heroes of Gaia – is it me, or badges are really broken?

they are broken.

 
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Could it be possible to change Battalion: Arena and Caesary badges to points instead of badges? If I remember correctly, something like that was done for Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands Flash Game. Though I don’t know if it’s possible to “send” the points to people who earned those badges (and it would probably take too much time).

 
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so glad to have gotten the Battalion: Arena badges before it went down,

I cant wait to see what the solution will be going forward now to resolve dead badges

 
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Originally posted by Ilmapallo:

Could it be possible to change Battalion: Arena and Caesary badges to points instead of badges? If I remember correctly, something like that was done for Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands Flash Game. Though I don’t know if it’s possible to “send” the points to people who earned those badges (and it would probably take too much time).

I think they were converted to temporary point challenges, and people got a couple of weeks to earn them before they were removed permanently. Something like that wouldn’t work here, though, because the games have been completely removed. I know Kong can give points manually, but as you mentioned, it would take a very long time to go through everyone who earned the badges.