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Room mods are flawed but it's not their fault. page 2

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Originally posted by Pokerhappy:

I was going to post some snarky comment about how you’d better watch out or they’ll demod you for talking bad about their system, but I guess I’m a little late for that.

he was demodded way before he posted this. your not a little late :p

 
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Well yeah, I knew it was before this, but you miss stuff when you’re me so I have no idea exactly how late I am.

 
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Why is being a moderator so important to you?
I know of many people who have given up their mod positions, simply because it is a hassle.
Why do you want the burden of constantly telling people what to do, all the time?

Be like the rest of us users, and enjoy Kongregate for the games!
Or the community if you’re into that sort of thing.

 
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Originally posted by Draconavin:

Why is being a moderator so important to you?
I know of many people who have given up their mod positions, simply because it is a hassle.
Why do you want the burden of constantly telling people what to do, all the time?

Be like the rest of us users, and enjoy Kongregate for the games!
Or the community if you’re into that sort of thing.

This. The more you get involved with Kongregate, the uglier you see the underbelly of the user mass is. I’m not talking admins or staff, but users & mods.

Anyways, somewhat in support of what Advo is saying… my 2 cents:

Maybe mods need to be more thoroughly evaluated, initially. I don’t know what they go through, but it doesn’t appear to be rigorous at all. I assume admins just trust the mods fairly blindly (unless they have a reason not to). Aside from that, I think something that would help would be some sort of peer review. Not mods on mods, but users on mods – and something that’s not ‘reporting’. Maybe something similar to “How’s my driving… call 555-5555”

Also, the Room Mods idea IS kinda weird. I know rooms have unique/flexible rule interpretations, and that’s OK – however, at a base level, there is a minimum set of behaviors that are acceptable in this site, as per the CoC. Users should generally expect an experience consistent with the CoC regardless of what room they are in. A moderator should be able to moderate according to that standard regardless of room or flex rule. If they can’t, then they aren’t fit to mod. If they need to moderate in an unfamiliar room, then they should moderate according to the bare minimum of the CoC.

 
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Originally posted by cesarcurado:
Originally posted by Rolby:

yea i was nominated once, but then i accidentaly said the name of porn site and i got silenced and now i cant be mod anymore.

you would make a good mod

cesarcurado would be the best

 
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Mods only get power to see who is worthy (bad word for it, it I can’t think of any better) to be in the area that they are stationed to patrol, like the border patrol (another bad comparison, but it is the best I got :P)

 
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Easy solution: Anybody who wants to become a mod should be tested on the Tyrant forums and chatrooms. After a week, ask them how they fared.

If they don’t think they did a good job, then clearly they shouldn’t be a mod.
If they think they did, they are mentally unsound and clearly shouldn’t be a mod.

 
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Originally posted by adv0catus:

You still need to be nominated to be a moderator. Becoming a moderator is the same, but once you get your foot in the door, yes, essentially.

Nominated by who?..

 
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AFAIK, other mods can nominate someone, if they know him/her and think that s/he would make a good moderator.

 
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Correct, existing moderators nominate potential future moderators.

 
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Their process of course is not perfect but then again what system of things are. They are limited but regardless of the fact they are doing the best that they can within given powers and responsibility to exercise it. Yes, there may have been some cases where mods have lost their cool or other issues have cause them to go astray. Can you seriously blame them are they not human. Do they not have stressful days before loggin on to kongregate. They are just like anyone else except for they have more of a responsibility to uphold the rules and regulation therefore set by Kongregate and are expected to use to the best judgement how they run their rooms as long as it does not go outside the given guidelines given to them by Kongregate Adminstration.

 
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Originally posted by BriarKing:

They are just like anyone else except for they have more of a responsibility to uphold the rules and regulation therefore set by Kongregate

If you tickle them, do they not laugh? If you poison them, do they not die?

I always thought Kong nominated a superior class of beings as mods.

 
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Originally posted by killbieber68:
Originally posted by cesarcurado:
Originally posted by Rolby:

yea i was nominated once, but then i accidentaly said the name of porn site and i got silenced and now i cant be mod anymore.

you would make a good mod

cesarcurado would be the best

hey dont kiss my ass.

 
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Originally posted by Rolby:

yea i was nominated once, but then i accidentaly said the name of porn site and i got silenced and now i cant be mod anymore.

Guess this ruins my chances. Got silenced once for “spam” in a game that involved posting several links to chat for raids to get stronger. Mod was new, but regardless, silence still, none-the-less.

 
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Originally posted by Pokerhappy:

I was going to post some snarky comment about how you’d better watch out or they’ll demod you for talking bad about their system, but I guess I’m a little late for that.

For the record, it’s requested and I can return any time I wish – I choose not to.

 
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Ah. Gotcha.

 
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Originally posted by adv0catus:
Originally posted by Pokerhappy:

I was going to post some snarky comment about how you’d better watch out or they’ll demod you for talking bad about their system, but I guess I’m a little late for that.

For the record, it’s requested and I can return any time I wish – I choose not to.

So why did you write on your profile that you received a message that you were going to be demodded and why did you complain about the administration being biased etc if you requested a break from modship only as you write now?

Not that I really care or that it’s my business, but very much sounds like unnecessary drama now.


Originally posted by adv0catus:

I’m the perfect example. I was modded in Gnarly without meeting most of the regulars. I met the requirement within a few days so I was modded before meeting everyone.

I’m curious as to why you accepted the modship in that room although you have your doubts about the system? Wouldn’t a truly responsible mod simply decline the offer of becoming mod in another room if he doesn’t know the regulars and knows about which people Kong wants to be mod in chatrooms?
Unless you were modded without being asked, saying “no thank you” is always an option.


On a different note, I agree with what saybox wrote about the (new) room mod system.
In most cases, any mod could resolve a problematic chat situation, regardless if he knows the regulars or not. Enforcing the basic rules of Kong (no spamming, no harassing) doesn’t require you to be a room-regular, and it shouldn’t be relevant if someone that is misbehaving is a regular in that chat either.
Of course there are situations when it is an advantage if the mod knows the currently problematic users, but in most cases it’s just blatant spam or harassment, especially in game dedicated chatrooms.
Back then when the change from global mods to room mods was made, the admins wrote something about wanting to prevent mods from being burned out from modcalls and being mod in any chat they join (for example also all game chats). I totally understand that point, I’d prefer some other solution for that though, for example mods being able to turn off their M, giving users a command /w mod to contact all mods that are up for modcalls or whatever.

 
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The thread was created with a very clear topic, which isn’t the one that is currently being discussed. :-/

[Edit: Too bad I can’t explain the situation to you, Thyrael.]

 
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Why is being a moderator so important to you?

lol what? Where did Adv0 imply, in this thread that being a mod was important to him?

 
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Originally posted by boa152:

Why is being a moderator so important to you?

lol what? Where did Adv0 imply, in this thread that being a mod was important to him?

Maybe he did not read the original post.