Notebook Wars U WebV was just released, just a heads up.

Hey Greg we should really get a Holiday badge for Easter or maybe April 1st… If only we had a really great Holiday game…. OH WAIT, [We do!](http://www.kongregate.com/games/Ruudiluca/heathers-halloween-christmas)

> *Originally posted by **[Heather](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10276991):*** > > Hey Greg we should really get a Holiday badge for Easter or maybe April 1st… If only we had a really great Holiday game…. OH WAIT, [We do!](http://www.kongregate.com/games/Ruudiluca/heathers-halloween-christmas) Seconded.

[it turns out greg is in the hospital](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)

> *Originally posted by **[Heather](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10276991):*** > > Hey Greg we should really get a Holiday badge for Easter or maybe April 1st… If only we had a really great Holiday game…. OH WAIT, [We do!](http://www.kongregate.com/games/Ruudiluca/heathers-halloween-christmas) And thirded.

> *Originally posted by **[Heather](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10276991):*** > > Hey Greg we should really get a Holiday badge for Easter or maybe April 1st… If only we had a really great Holiday game…. OH WAIT, [We do!](http://www.kongregate.com/games/Ruudiluca/heathers-halloween-christmas) [We have one that’s better though](http://www.kongregate.com/games/YAYitsAndrew/votestabby)

I’m all for badging Hank Hill Smokes A Marijuana Cigarette And Develops Cancer at this point.

> *Originally posted by **[Holy2334](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10277045):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Heather](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10276991):*** > > > > Hey Greg we should really get a Holiday badge for Easter or maybe April 1st… If only we had a really great Holiday game…. OH WAIT, [We do!](http://www.kongregate.com/games/Ruudiluca/heathers-halloween-christmas) > > [We have one that’s better though](http://www.kongregate.com/games/YAYitsAndrew/votestabby) I’d vote for this one.

> *Originally posted by **[LethalMutiny](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10277091):*** > > I’m all for badging Hank Hill Smokes A Marijuana Cigarette And Develops Cancer at this point. [Oh…](http://www.kongregate.com/games/PaperCup/hank-hill-smokes-a-marijuana-cigarette-and-develops-cancer) you weren’t even kidding.

There’s a completion badge live now in [There Is No Game](http://www.kongregate.com/games/KaMiZoTo_Creator/there-is-no-game). Also, the next multiplayer game to receive badges will be [Zeus Age](http://www.kongregate.com/games/ProficientCity/zeus-age). The current plan is to have an easy badge for reaching level 3 and a medium badge for reaching 2,000 power. [Learn to Fly 3](http://www.kongregate.com/games/light_bringer777/learn-to-fly-3) is currently being delayed for various reasons, but we haven’t forgotten about it. > *Originally posted by **[Holy2334](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10269295):*** > > *Originally posted by **[LinkaBR](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10269286):*** > > > > RIP new badges > > Greg hasn’t been on in a few days :O I also want to take a moment to address the badge quantity on the site, both recently and going forward. Lately I’ve been taking on a lot more responsibilities at Kongregate — I’m managing/editing our newly launched [developer blog](http://developers.kongregate.com/), I’m learning how to assist with getting virtual goods games integrated on the site, I’m still the primary contact for web game developers who have any issues/questions, and, most of all, I’ve been focusing on reaching out to new developers to encourage them to upload their games onto Kongregate. [Fleeing the Complex](http://www.kongregate.com/games/Puffballs_United/fleeing-the-complex), [There Is No Game](http://www.kongregate.com/games/KaMiZoTo_Creator/there-is-no-game), [Strange Magic Escape](http://www.kongregate.com/games/Eric_V/strange-magic-escape), and [Theropods](http://www.kongregate.com/games/Tinystuffz/theropods) are all on the website because I personally reached out to the developers of these games and encouraged them to upload them onto Kongregate. This is going to be a major focus for me going forward, since it’s really important that all the best games on the web find their way to Kongregate. Creating badges on Kongregate has never been a full-time job for me — I’ve always had other things going on the background (mostly Flash game sponsorships, though that program is essentially dead by now). However, while it was once about half my job (and rawismojo once assisted), it is now a very small percentage (about 15%). Combine this with the fact that the quantity of the games themselves has slowed, and the result is that we’ll probably never return to the era of a few years ago, when getting 2-3 new sets of badges on the site each week was fairly common. Creating badges and interacting with the community is, by far, my favorite part of my job. Kongregate is the only office job I’ve ever worked at — I joined as the first employee practically straight out of college, and I’ve been here for almost 10 years now. I really love you guys, even if I don’t post a whole lot. Knowing how much the people here care about the site, the community, and the badge system is what motivates me at this job more than anything else. The big games on the site will continue to receive badges. It’s still important to me, and it’s still important to the company. However, I’m making this long dramatic post because I feel that it’s important to align expectations with reality. The badge quantity is just not going to recover to where it was when the Flash development scene peaked a few years ago. There are still great games being made, and these games will continue to receive badges and promotion. However, it is unlikely that I will spend much time digging through old games for badges (honestly, this is a ton of work relative to how productive it is, and I spent too much time on it last year with very little to show for it), and it’s also unlikely that the ratings threshold for new badges will be significantly lowered. It’s more important for us to focus on featuring the absolute best content that the site has to offer, and it’s also important for me to focus on doing the things that will help the company succeed as much as possible. > *Originally posted by **[rinky999](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=207#posts-10261109):*** > > Just posting here to say I don’t really like today’s BotD of Amorphous+. > > This medium BotD is a lot of work, and it’s one of the few games that doesn’t save my progress. > > So I was trying to spread this one over a few days, and then noticed this game doesn’t save your progress. > > Not fun. Thanks for the feedback on this. The medium badge in [Amorphous+](http://www.kongregate.com/games/innocuousGames/amorphous) has been blacklisted from ever appearing as badge of the day again.

> *Originally posted by **[greg](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10279954):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[rinky999](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=207#posts-10261109):*** > > > > Just posting here to say I don’t really like today’s BotD of Amorphous+. > > > > This medium BotD is a lot of work, and it’s one of the few games that doesn’t save my progress. > > > > So I was trying to spread this one over a few days, and then noticed this game doesn’t save your progress. > > > > Not fun. > > Thanks for the feedback on this. The medium badge in [Amorphous+](http://www.kongregate.com/games/innocuousGames/amorphous) has been blacklisted from ever appearing as badge of the day again. Is that why there isn’t any idle games on the botd? If so, please keep it that way. I don’t want to sit around for an hour watching numbers change to get the botd.

> Is that why there isn’t any idle games on the botd? Well, there aren’t many idle badges on the site at all… But probably about 3/4 of the badges on the site aren’t suitable for being badge of the day for one reason or another, so I add badges to the blacklist pretty regularly.

> *Originally posted by **[greg](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10279954):*** > > Also, the next multiplayer game to receive badges will be [Zeus Age](http://www.kongregate.com/games/ProficientCity/zeus-age). The current plan is to have an easy badge for reaching level 3 and a medium badge for reaching 2,000 power. NO NO NO NO NO, please NO. Zeus Age is from the devs of Legend Knight, and it got a lot of negative comments regarding “account resetting” when relogging the game, so it’s not worth the badge time investment.

Zeus Age just crashed for me like two minutes into game due to a “fatal content error”. :|

> Zeus Age It’s like our Legend Knight riots never took place

I definitely think it’s a good thing that you’re reaching out to developers to upload games to Kong that wouldn’t be here otherwise. Regarding actual badges, though, while I think we all understand that the badge rate can’t feasibly return to what it once was, the community in this thread can (I think) help with the task of parsing through games. Obviously, you have your own quality control to account for and determinations to make, but at minimum I think the best older games can be (re-)discovered by committee fairly easily, which at least simplifies the process somewhat. I also question the “best content” issue—it’s always been true that ratings are not a perfect predictor of quality or even preference, which is (partly, at least) why badges assignment has never been wholly prioritized by ratings. Tastes change over time, but I’d think it’s more important than ever to find undervalued games, as purely ratings-based promotion isn’t as likely to show off Kong itself at this time, given the relative dearth of excellent games.

> Zeus Age Do you want me to post a 5-page disintegration of that game I swear to God I will go to San Fran and attack the marketing dept. with flaming pitchforks Can’t you just say no

> *Originally posted by **[greg](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=208#posts-10279954):*** > Also, the next multiplayer game to receive badges will be [Zeus Age](http://www.kongregate.com/games/ProficientCity/zeus-age). The current plan is to have an easy badge for reaching level 3 and a medium badge for reaching 2,000 power. Oh Boy! I gotta bust out this bad boy and prepare for the outcome of this.  \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ It is good though to see that you’re actively looking outside of Kong to bring some of the new games here so that they can get badges! It’s good to see that there are still good flash games being made, but just haven’t found their way to Kong yet. Do you recommend having people do the same thing, and letting you know what games look good or do you prefer to do that on your own?

Amorphous+’s medium badge does not need a save file. You can get it in 5 minutes with a fast bounty run, making it one of the quickest badges on the site. Having a save file has little to no impact. Anyway, back to the main thing: I don’t care about money-grabbing bad mmo’s. These good games you managed to get, they lasted 15 minutes to half an hour each. Only one or two plays each. Badges are the main source of replay value to me in Kong. The lack of them is pushing me away, after all these years, and the only thing keeping me around is the community. Of course sponsoring paid games gives you more money than getting more ad views. But for how long can you keep this up? The site is crumbling. Complaints about every useless UI change, mmo’s going bankrupt, older games breaking. I simply stopped playing mmo’s altogether, even the ones with badges, since I have the philosophy that “all mmo’s shut down”, and they are doing that fast, oh so fast. You can milk daddy’s credit card as much as you can, but that has a cost. Kongregate is turning into a big entertainment scam. By reducing badge development time so low you’re just making it go there from what it was much faster. I bet you already watched [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U), but please do it again. And again. And again. Because it’s important. And you’re ignoring it completely.

I blame Gamestop for the lack of badges.

> *Originally posted by **[hamuka](/forums/1/topics/380539?page=209#posts-10280132):*** > > Zeus Age > > Do you want me to post a 5-page disintegration of that game > I swear to God I will go to San Fran and attack the marketing dept. with flaming pitchforks > Can’t you just say no Look at the bright sight: At least this is going to reopen the bridge to badge unity games. There are some good quality unity games that were overlooked because they were unity games, but this no longer seems to be a barrier.

**greg** , we understand completely if you say that creating badges is no longer your primary focus and you now have to take care of other stuff. However, as **Precarious** pointed out, it is already past time for you to consider more users suggestions instead of relying only on yourself to test all badges. Handpicking a small group of voluntaries could provide a lot of insightful ideas AND plenty of stats testing, thus saving you precious time. You said yourself that the focus will be only on new big games from now on. That’s sad, because a gem might be lost along the way simply because when it was released there was either a bigger hit or you didn’t have enough time at that specific point. So please, at least consider taking players’ suggestions for older games while you still focus on new games. Precarious has been doing a great job for a long time already providing suggestions for many forgotten games.

Have ranted on the game for 8 minutes, cbf to rewrite, [here](http://pastebin.com/6v5fwZVD) it is TL;DR: It’s not nearly as broken as Legend Knight, but as a consequence, it is much more boring and unenjoyable, which might actually be worse

So Zeus Age is unplayable in Chrome because of the Unity issue, and crashes during the start of the introduction in Safari. Why is it being badged?