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I thought it would be a good idea to have a big thread of ideas to make Kongregate better.

First, there should be a list of features that are already being worked on. That I know of, these are:
Search & High Scores. People that know more than me should add more.

An idea that I just submited: A Recently Played Games section for each user. This would be great because often you play a few games a lot for a few days but then stop, so it would be really convenient to have a way to get easy access to them without adding them to favorites.

An obvious one: There should be a link to these forums somewhere other than the news section.

One that would be very useful right now: make the forum be able to handle new line characters so you can format things to not just be big blobs of text. [done!]

 
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Some major chat tweaks:

- Be able to turn on/off chat windows (what if I don’t want to chat while being in the game?),
- External chat (not only in games),
- Current game chat only (two tabs above that filter people only playing the game you’re playing or global),
- Being able to connect through IRC,
- Flashing window if your name is mentioned (I mostly have the window minimized and check every once in a while),
- By clicking on someone’s name, his work is also shown (by names, not necessarily thumbs too)
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- Forum link on top of the page,
- More than two hot and popular games on the frontpage,
- Why are the voices on the right side of the posts necessary?

…more to come, I think.

 
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I think “Popular Tags” occupies far too much front page real estate. I like the tag system, but I have doubts about how many people really use it. That space could better serve to show off more of the most popular games so that new users have a 4 game selection of the best games on the site.

 
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Tags are modern and can be useful for searching games with tags. I like ’em! :D

 
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SUGGESTION:
why are the posts limited to such a small space. this paragraph shouldn’t take up anything close to 2 lines, let alone 3.

let them stretch from end to end. then every post wouldn’t seem too long to read.

 
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I like the idea of improving the chat like being able to keep it on all the page of Kongregate. A private feature could also be useful.

 
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I would also like a way to mark game as incomplet or of poor quality. Those game are not exactly inappropriate but are more like work in progress. This flag could be use for : use of liscence material, lots of bugs, bad graphics or bad gameplay. I know this is all very subjective, but after, lets say 15 flags, the game is automaticly remove from the site. I think its important to keep the standard up. Or maybe just all those criteria fit under “inappropriate”. An explanation field when submiting inappropriate game is then in order.

 
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if game’s bad it has no gameplays and votes. voting for “remove from site” is extremely bad and pro abuse idea

 
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I agree with dxOne, in that a ‘blam button’ would open up too much potential for abuse, from people who are frivolous or malicious with their voting, especially… like, what if people blammed a really good game?

No, I agree that the best way to tell is how many views and votes it has, so if it doesn’t get x views or votes by x weeks, then blam it ;)

 
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i agree with damijin about popular tags, i never use it, even if it’s really “in” to have it …
i would prefer a “random games” section, because right now, you can see on the chat that new users only play to the featured game and to the games with most gameplays and the other games are maybe let down even if they are good …
and the Work In Progress for Kong section would be great !!

 
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I second the idea of displaying a random game or two. Though ‘latest games’ does help to some effect, less popular games need some attention subsidies.

 
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Random game ftw.

 
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Some tags should be eliminated. Author tags and “contest winners”, as well as genre’ed tags should be censored so that the same “action” doesn’t appear every day. Cool tags are things like “cats” or “explosions”, something that catches the eye and will change on a weekly basis. That is what I look for in tags.

 
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Thanks to iBrow for starting a thread like this. We’re definitely listening to what you guys have to say. Now let me address some stuff…

First, there should be a list of features that are already being worked on. That I know of, these are: Search & High Scores.


Good idea. I’ll start one today. There’s a lot more than that…

An obvious one: There should be a link to these forums somewhere other than the news section.


There’s a link to the forums in the community section, but our traffic reports are showing us that no one goes there. Poor featured developers. We’re planning to replace the “community” button on the top with a button for leaderboards and another one exclusively for forums.

One that would be very useful right now: make the forum be able to handle new line characters so you can format things to not just be big blobs of text.


You can do that with HTML… in other words, not very user-friendly. I agree that this should definitely be more intuitive.

Be able to turn on/off chat windows (what if I don’t want to chat while being in the game?), – External chat (not only in games), – Current game chat only (two tabs above that filter people only playing the game you’re playing or global)


Disabling chat is on our list of future features, so anti-social people can rejoice. We’re still discussing the possibility of external chat. The idea for the tab between global chat and current-game-specific chat is exactly what we’re planning to do, also.

By clicking on someone’s name, his work is also shown (by names, not necessarily thumbs too)


Yeah, we’re planning to expand what’s viewable in chat profiles, so soon you’ll be able to see a person’s games straight from chat, then click to go directly to them (the same way you can now click to go to a game someone is currently playing).

More than two hot and popular games on the frontpage


I agree. More on my opinion in response to Damijin here…

I think “Popular Tags” occupies far too much front page real estate. I like the tag system, but I have doubts about how many people really use it. That space could better serve to show off more of the most popular games so that new users have a 4 game selection of the best games on the site.


This is almost exactly what I would personally prefer, but we’re still discussing possible tweaks to the front page. I agree that people don’t seem to use tags, and I think a nice place for them might be in that little empty box underneath the categories, to the left of the news. Then we could have another category of games (maybe highest-rated? Though that would likely be the same as “popular”… any ideas for a third category, anyone?). I was thinking 3 games per category instead of 4 (but with an extra category, so 9 total instead of 8). I think that 2 is definitely not enough. What do you guys think we could do with the front page?

why are the posts limited to such a small space. this paragraph shouldn’t take up anything close to 2 lines, let alone 3. let them stretch from end to end. then every post wouldn’t seem too long to read.


Perhaps we could move voices to the bottom, and fill in the right column? Or, as Luksy pointed out, maybe voices aren’t even necessary…

I like the idea of improving the chat like being able to keep it on all the page of Kongregate. A private feature could also be useful.


You mean chat on non-game pages? Hmmm… I’m trying to imagine where that would go. And it seems like non-game pages are transitory (ie, they’re pages that someone’s just visiting on the way to a game page). Perhaps we could have a non-game-specific chat room in the forums section or something?

I would also like a way to mark game as incomplet or of poor quality. Those game are not exactly inappropriate but are more like work in progress. This flag could be use for : use of liscence material, lots of bugs, bad graphics or bad gameplay. I know this is all very subjective, but after, lets say 15 flags, the game is automaticly remove from the site. I think its important to keep the standard up. Or maybe just all those criteria fit under “inappropriate”. An explanation field when submiting inappropriate game is then in order.


We’re so far a little more lenient than Newgrounds, since games can’t really be blammed off the site. Our emphasis is more on promoting good games than deleting bad ones. But we’re considering having a way to “hide” games from lists, so they can only be accessed from within the uploader’s profile. This would basically be similar to adding filters to our games list.

Random game ftw.


I don’t know, man. I learned my lesson from the “random” feature on YTMND. But perhaps we could put a little random button somewhere, even if it’s not on the front page.

Some tags should be eliminated. Author tags and “contest winners”, as well as genre’ed tags should be censored so that the same “action” doesn’t appear every day.


Hmmm, so maybe I should stop going through and adding that “contest winner” tag to games when they win contests… Tags are completely user-generated, so anyone can add any tag to any game. We don’t currently have a way to delete tags, but we’re considering giving that power to each game’s uploader.

 
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After doing some research on tags, (and by research, I mean I wiki’d it), I found out that they were made popular by sites like Flickr.

I had never understood the idea of tags, but, I will agree that they make sense when dealing with searching through a database of millions of photographs. However, I think their usefulness in a database of hundreds or thousands of games is limited. A traditional search function would be more useful in my humble opinion.

Maybe they’ll be more useful in the future as the library grows larger, and they are a bit trendy (though you’ll notice some of the big upload sites like Youtube don’t use them), but at the moment I really think that space could go to better use, and agree with Greg that perhaps the bottom left corner is the best location for them.

IMO, go with the random feature. I know random can betray people sometimes, but if it’s cleary marked as “Random”, they won’t expect it to be the cream of the crop. There is also a slight difference between this site and YTMND in the entry level barrier. I expect there to be far less unplayable crap on Kongregate than there is unviewable crap on YTMND. For the time being, random would make sense, and if it stops making sense in the future it can always be taken away.

 
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YouTube uses tags, but for organization uses categories. That’s the way it should be.
Tags are good pie. Don’t remove them. But they need proper tool – The Search. Easy including/excluding from filter, autocomplete drop-down list maybe, in future some checkbox for “consider my favs” “consider my votes”, “only in this categories:”, so u can target results for your taste. If done correctly it’s very useful feature.

 
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I just rushed back to the site to say that and hope no one had seen my error :D

Yeah, I meant youtube doesn’t use a tag cloud.

 
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some Kongregate ressources would be great, to have some nicer image link and stuff ;)

 
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yes!
and some “exclusively for Kongregate” and small corner “more games at Kongregate” banners
(preloader is on the way, right?)

 
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Some tags should be eliminated. Author tags and “contest winners”, as well as genre’ed tags should be censored so that the same “action” doesn’t appear every day.


Done – I think a lot of the other ideas on here are good, too. But this one was, good, and easy! So it’s in.

 
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I looked at my page, and the games are starting to stack a bit funny.

http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=offcenterco2.jpg

 
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I looked at my page, and the games are starting to stack a bit funny.
http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=offcen


Whoa, yeah, funky. We need to look into that.

 
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I’d like the forum to tell me wich post I’ve read and wich topic I didnt read yet. For now I can only assume by the date of the last post that I maybe didnt get the chance to read it. Maybe a simple color code could indicate to me where I left last time a read on the forum. I’m bussy and I dont want to miss anything. :P

 
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you can use the RSS feed vynx ;) works great

 
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and gray cloud near forum title turns green… well at least for me