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avatar for gunground gunground 284 posts
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Hello, I’m here to propose a idea thats bold, but might just bring a little relief to the already stressed working schedules of mods and admins alike. It is a well known fact that hacking is a problem on the internet, however hacking is a major problem for scoreboards. Not only is it immoral, It rips true “clean” gamers of their legitimate experience. This is a plague that has affected all of us, however I have a solution thats less stressful for mods and admins while being system friendly.

I propose that a carefully picked/nominated players will be chosen to join the Seek and Destroy Anti-Hacking Team (SDAHT). This team will carefully monitor the high scores and use evidence and common sense to pick out those who have hacked the high scores and the games themselves. Simple right? Not quite…

By now you may be thinking all of these things that could go wrong, all the flaws of this. However I have a solution to all questions asked. Here is my very own FAQ for readers.

Question: What if someone abuses the system?

Answer: Actually very simple answer. This team, will be split into more teams. Before allowing to post their list of hackers and the evidence, they must first run it through their teams. From there the team makes sure all the evidence is solid, and double check to make sure all names and other various information is correct. Lastly of all, when posting the information approved by the team each member was whisper an a-okay to the admin,mod, etc that is in charge of fixing the high scores list.

Question: How will I know that someone really is part of the team?

Answer: Well there are multiple answers to that. Depending on which you think is best, we could have a password system, a symbol behind someones name (much like the mods “M”), or we could have a private forum section for members only (not really the best choice in my opinion). The safest solution would be a symbol, but any will work.

Question: Would there be someone who could automatically delete someones high score if there is solid proof of a hack?

Answer: Well this touchs up again on the “abusing the system” problem so I would entirely let the admin make his mind on that. He could make mini admins that can change the high scores list. I would suggest that if the admin did so, he give VERY LIMITED POWER. In my opinion, I would suggest to keep highscore deletion like it is. I believe those in charge currently should stay in charge. Giving someone power over high scores is very dangerous. So to answer your question, no.

If you have any more issues you wish to discuss I have ideas to solve anything you throw at me. Please post that “you support” if you support this idea. Constructive Critism encouraged.

 
avatar for gunground gunground 284 posts
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Sorry to double post but a few people are unclear. Your vote doesn’t count if you do not post I Support this idea. So even if you think its a good idea, its really important to this thread that we get posts so others may notice.

 
avatar for ItBeNickYo ItBeNickYo 2033 posts
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I Support this idea

Will add more when its not 4 in the morning.

 
avatar for gunground gunground 284 posts
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Thanks nick _. Wish SpartaKips would hurry up. He promised he would support the idea if I posted it but hes afk :|

 
avatar for crimson589 crimson589 251 posts
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I support this idea

if this idea is implemented I think most hi-scores of the games wont be looked at by the “SDAHT” since some of them are old, not fun and have no badges, so basically I think this would still work good but for games that are popular, have challenges, and have badges on them but thats the important part anyway since you have something to gain on that game, hackers should be prevented.

 
avatar for gunground gunground 284 posts
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thanks crimson. One of the most important things I believe should be done, is those who have been found hacking should have badges stripped from them. Such as if they cheated in amphorous+ they should be stripped of their badges and forced to get them again legitimately.

Keep the posts rolling!

 
avatar for PlatinumIce PlatinumIce 3829 posts
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That’s a fantastic idea.

That would be a great idea, and I hope that the Kongregate Staff see this great thread and think about implementing it.

I support this one-hundred-and-ten percent.

 
avatar for gunground gunground 284 posts
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Wow, thanks everyone. I’m gonna be on 24/7 for the next 30 days to make sure I respond to EVERYONES POST. If I don’t then…umm…i’ll give you a cookie :D. But seriously, thanks for the posts. Keep it up!

 
avatar for PlatinumIce PlatinumIce 3829 posts
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Wow, thanks everyone. I’m gonna be on 24/7 for the next 30 days

I’m on 24/7 EVERY day, XD.

It’s almost 5AM here. :P

 
avatar for gunground gunground 284 posts
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wow 5 am here too _ where you from? Now back on topic for the sec, I’ve unleashed my super mega powers to bring this bulletin, major hacks in amphorous. All daily, top, and weekly high scores are all hacked. I’ve already sent the names to the admin however this is just outrageous. This is a prime example of why this team should be assembled!

 
avatar for JudeMaverick JudeMaverick Moderator_icon 5496 posts
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There is no harm to it since the admins will be a judge and they will get notified of this lists.

I support this idea.

Edit: Wrote wrongly. Lists became ideas.

 
avatar for PlatinumIce PlatinumIce 3829 posts
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wow 5 am here too _ where you from? Now back on topic for the sec, I’ve unleashed my super mega powers to bring this bulletin, major hacks in amphorous. All daily, top, and weekly high scores are all hacked. I’ve already sent the names to the admin however this is just outrageous. This is a prime example of why this team should be assembled!

North Carolina.

Me, you, and Nick, are on the same time, apparantly.

Also, practically all games on Kongregate are hacked these days, that’s why we need this idea implemented. I mean, sure the staff do their hardest, but there just aren’t enough people to monitor ALL the highscores.

=/

 
avatar for gunground gunground 284 posts
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Thanks maverick, every vote counts. Things are still moving slow due to the time, however i’m dedicated to making sure this post is succesful so the mods will see. Now if only SpartaKips (a mod) who said he would sponsor me stop being afk this post would REALLY BE NOTICED!

 
avatar for PlatinumIce PlatinumIce 3829 posts
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Now if only SpartaKips (a mod) who said he would sponsor me stop being afk this post would REALLY BE NOTICED!

You do realize Nick, and Jude are both mods too, right?

 
avatar for gunground gunground 284 posts
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NO FREAKING WAY. Seriously? wow! Thanks everyone. Now if only greg could read the post we would be in the money!

 
avatar for JudeMaverick JudeMaverick Moderator_icon 5496 posts
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You do realize Nick, and Jude are both mods too, right?

Damn, cover’s blowed! I was actually pretending to be a normal user :(

 
avatar for gunground gunground 284 posts
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Wow I suspected to get quite a bit of posts but I didn’t suspect so many mods would approve! I thought that this would be a war of gamers vs mods. it seems is mods+gamers vs …well…against nothingness _

 
avatar for crimson589 crimson589 251 posts
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it seems is mods+gamers vs …well…against nothingness _

ummm hackers?

 
avatar for PlatinumIce PlatinumIce 3829 posts
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Actually, it’s against us gamers, and the mods, against the fact that a staff member hasn’t visited yet.

…And hackers.

[Also, It’s not Greg, it’s greg. Because greg himself has admitted (And I quote:) “Greg is a piece of shit.”]

 
avatar for gunground gunground 284 posts
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lol good point. Anyways I need you guys to do me a favor. I know I can publicize the thread, but I know that I also cannot be spamming out my thread linky to every place and person I see. Since your mods you know most of the rules, could you help publicize this thread for me? I mean as long as its perfectly fine with the rules. It seems like everyone agrees with the idea, however I think it make take more supports before we got a strong argument on our side.

Edit: oops, I guess I owe you a cookie crimson _

Edit Again: Night guys gtg

 
avatar for crimson589 crimson589 251 posts
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k where is it? =D

on topic, Im wondering if they ever consider this idea, I wonder if they will go with your idea to assign some players for it or just add this job to player moderators also

edit:
bq. I’m gonna be on 24/7 for the next 30 days to make sure I respond to EVERYONES POST

Night guys gtg

 
avatar for Badd Badd Developer_icon 485 posts
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I’m gonna be on 24/7 for the next 30 days to make sure I respond to EVERYONES POST. If I don’t then…umm…i’ll give you a cookie :D

Night guys gtg

Where’s my cookie? Anyways, good idea. +1 supporter

 
avatar for Darth_Sirov Darth_Sirov Curator_icon 1554 posts
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thumbs up on this

 
avatar for Laxaria Laxaria Moderator_icon 3861 posts
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I really would support this although this will be very hard to manage and run. It would make admins’ lives easier as now reports of inaccurate scores and impossible scores can come from a more trusted group of people.

 
avatar for The_3lder The_3lder 630 posts
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I’m going to support this.

Great idea!

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