New Kongregate Version! (CR 2009.05.20) page 2

it’s kinda hard to tell the difference between afk users and silenced users. Perhaps you could change the colour of the line that goes through the silenced user’s name?
Awesome feature, though.

Originally posted by HappyAlcoholic:

it’s kinda hard to tell the difference between afk users and silenced users. Perhaps you could change the colour of the line that goes through the silenced user’s name?

Awesome feature, though.

just about to suggest the same, HA. you beat me to it :P
it’s probably a good idea to change the color of one or the other. it’s not a great idea to have both idle users and silenced users look the same :/ so much confusion.

Silenced users have a line through their name, and afk users’ names are in italics.
I can’t wait for it to become manual, which is something I said in that suggestions thread a couple of months ago.

- New AFK feature! If you’ve been idle in chat for 15 minutes, your name will be grayed out in the userlist to show that you are currently away from your keyboard. It will automatically come back when you chat again or send a PM.

YEAAAA! Yes, now I can keep my computer on overnight and people will know I’m not there and stop harassing me with questions! :D

Props for adding an afk system, HOWEVER on that note, I don’t think the faded text really works. Its too hard to see names, and resembles Silences too closely.(minus the line thru the name)

Might I suggest a simple (afk) next to the name, perhaps in a different color and a smaller text size? Enough main stream chat services use it to be instantly recognized.

I think the new great bango whamo boy gee howdy AFK feature is ridiculous. Why would I want people to know if I’m afk or not. You are forcing something upon us that not everyone finds so peachy keen.

Do we really care that 22,311 people got the Hard badge for Music Catch 2? Nope

Yer trying to do too much with something that was never really an issue. It’s confusing and unnecessary. Have you ever heard the expression “If it isn’t broke, don’t try to fix it”?

I’d love to see all this effort go into something that’s actually worthwhile. Instead of adding all these useless bells and whistles to the chat system, why not put that effort into creating a solution for trolls, problem users, and alt accounts.

This is like taking a perfectly new and beautiful red bicycle, and thinking it isnt good enough. So you add pom poms, sparkles, christmas lights, rockets, big wheels, and painted flames on the side of it. Which in the end makes it crappy.

Afk feature should at least be optional like on instant messengers.

Originally posted by Dinoale:

This is like taking a perfectly new and beautiful red bicycle, and thinking it isnt good enough. So you add pom poms, sparkles, christmas lights, rockets, big wheels, and painted flames on the side of it. Which in the end makes it crappy.

Afk feature should at least be optional like on instant messengers.

Hahahahahahahah, exactly Ale!! You summed it up perfectly! :D

Kongregate doesn’t like plain ol’ red bicycles no matter how new they are. So they’re slappin a BANGIN Kong ant decal on that baby, just like on the wall!

haha keese, and yea Dino, it should be optional, even though I think it’s fine how it is.

Phoenix said it’s going to be optional eventually.

The current system starts people as black (active) then changes them to AFK (light gray and italicized) unless they post a public or private message, use a Chat action (e.g. open a profile, Add Friend, or Mute), or the game they are playing sends any information – meaning loading any of the many games implementing the Kong API may keep you black even if you are on another tab and possibly when you are not playing. EDIT: This information was from a conversation with a Kong employee shortly after the patch. I did not test. At the bottom of Page 3, Phoenix states these activities will not disable AFK status. Why many members obviously not chatting remain black has not been explained. The following suggestions remain valid.

Better specifications
Target audience should be chatters. Players who do not chat do not care about these features.

- Players should start inactive and become active when they post.
- Playing a game using the Kong API does not matter. Only being AFK matters.
- Automatic AFK after some time. (15 minutes is fine, but longer would allow for people just distracted by a game.)
- Chat Action/Set AFK (Saw that this feature is planned. Will allow for longer time before the automatic trigger.)
- Automatic disable of AFK when public post is sent. AFK should not be affected by PMs. (Hey! Over here! I just called a Mod!)
- The current gray is too light – unreadable. A different (darker) color would be better. Several players could not read them well enough to notice the names were italicized.

OPTIONAL: Would be nice if sort separated known chatters (in last week?) above non-chatters.

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Private Profiles still don’t have “Add as Friend”, “Mute”, and “Show Full Profile” buttons when clicking the name from the dialog. (Or Chat list, but the highlight menu is available for the first two if you have already found the name in the Chat list.) We need the link to the Full Profile to get to the Report Abuse link. The current Show Full Profile link is not obvious – should be button at top. Better would add a button that directly opens the Report Abuse form.

Also, clicking a name loses your place in the Chat list.

Don’t like the italic/light greyed out that much, how about just italic or so with a different color shading?

I like the badge number idea but absolutely dislike thats its only numbers of xxxxx people got this badge. It tells very little (you can compare it but still), I would rather see a % sign. Of all people x/xx % got this badge. Or maybe active people or all people who played that game etc.

The chat puts you on afk only when you don’t chat for 15 min? Thats annoying, I play games longer then that sometimes, I have to say something every single time to make sure it doens’t activate? It doesn’t register playing? Going to profiles? Editting room message etc?

Originally posted by The_Chosen_One:

Don’t like the italic/greyed out that much, how about just italic or so?

I absolutely dislike the xxxxx people got this badge. It tells very little (you can compare it but still), I would rather see a % sign. Of all ACTIVE people x/xx % got this badge.

Well in a topic under this comparing those numbers is very interesting….not to mention it’s much easier to derive the number of people who got it compared to the number that played it and got it or that didn’t play it and are counted in the percent that didn’t get it.

The numbers are quite enlightening in a way percents aren’t(I didn’t expect so many to have impossibles personally)

I prefer it greyed out as it’s more evident that they are afk, you’ll need to look harder if they are italics.

Will the afk thing transfer to some sort of automatic PM to someone who PMs you?

And yay, my “how many people have this badge?” idea went through! :D

And for the MSG joke, Phoenix, I died a little inside.

Will the afk thing transfer to some sort of automatic PM to someone who PMs you?

They should take Ventero’s script :P

good

OMG!this is so awsome!

Is there a way to mute myself away from chat??

Originally posted by Matthewspencer08:

Is there a way to mute myself away from chat??

Change tabs? If you meant graying yourself from chat, then no you can’t do it manually you can only have it done automatically after 15 minutes of inactivity.

Originally posted by zaraki:

Originally posted by Matthewspencer08:

Is there a way to mute myself away from chat??

Change tabs? If you meant graying yourself from chat, then no you can’t do it manually you can only have it done automatically after 15 minutes of inactivity.

don’t chat easy…

yay

As I said on another topic; the new chat keeps becoming better and better despite me having some doubts when it was first released. These are the things I would suggest to add:
1) If I’d like to refresh an highscore list I usually clicked again on the relative list in the “mode:” scrolling list. This is now impossible so I have to choose another list and then switch it again to the first list. Also if a particular game has a single highscore list to refresh my highscore list I have to refresh the whole page;
2) I’d love to add the “view profile-add as friend-private message-mute” tab to the nicknames in the chat itself and not only in the chat list on the top;
3) I actually hate being both in the game and in the room chat, since it happens they call me in one chat while I’m seeing the other one; please make us be showed in a single chat. It would be cool to give the posibility to not be in any chat at all and still being connected to the API, but the first thing is the priority.
4) it would be cool to highlight all the messages with your name in a different colour. e.g. if there is a message in chat that says “Danaroth how are you?” that message should be highlighted just for me (e.g with a light yellow background) and shouldn’t for other users. Since the users usually use short names, it would be ok to implement a linux-like Tab replenishment too (e.g. if I type d+TAB the first nickname that starts with D should be automaticly written.
5) Some people were confused since sometimes part of the description of a badge shows up only in the achievement tab and not under the game, so I’d suggest to fully add the description under the game. Also It would be cool to colour up the badge under the game right after you get it (like it was before) and not only after you refreshed the page.
6) Silenced and afk users are too similar (as already pointed out).

@Danaroth

1. I think clicking highscore above the game solves the problem if it has a single highscore.(tested and worked) I wouldn’t mind a small refresh icon at the empty space above your friend’s highscores tab.

2.I don’t completely understand what you mean;you do realize clicking a name inside the chat will let you go there too right>?

3. As a moderator I like this actually and would disagree at changing it…. But I can see where you are coming from but you can always leave a small message saying you are in the other chat or PM friends from other chat.

4. I have never seen this in other chats and it really sounds sophisticated programming wise o.o Not to mention not exactly in high demand or too useful.

5. I guess I agree although I don’t think it’s priority.

6. Hmmm it was pointed out but it’s actually false. Silenced users are now crossed out with red and put at the bottom of the list.

AFK feature is epic.

So is the “awarded: xxxx” feature :OOO