The new Auction system page 2

Originally posted by gotoxy:

Originally posted by Vusa:

I loved an auction on an other game:

You dont know what is highest bid. You only know who has the highest. Fixed 1 hour time. AND you will loose your credits always.

you dont loose creds. If someone bid over you, all cred are returned to you.

Vusa was making a suggestion based on another game’s auction scheme where creds are not returned, so it is less tempting to bid high and where the highest bidding is not known by all players (although the name of the highest bidder is known so you can guess from his rank more or less if he can bid high or not).

I think there should be a new tab in the Mall for auction since the auction items do not renew like the other ones in Equip. And maybe, there could be other items like defined skill books (not magic books that give you random skills) so that people would still bid very high for those, although I can agree it might again favor the highest ranking players.

It will take a while to drain everyone’s bank accounts…But they should speed it up a little.

Should bump it from 3 auctions at a time to 6. Starting auction time to 1 hour, And change the 30 minutes rebid timeout to 5 mins. Maybe permanantly, but at least until you drain enough creds that the auctions are more reasonable..

who needs draining other than like the top 50 pay to win players? what about us who still need to hit the 15m marker??? I wish you guys would shut up on the forums about needing things to spend credits on.

Originally posted by hatemakingnames:

It will take a while to drain everyone’s bank accounts…But they should speed it up a little.

Should bump it from 3 auctions at a time to 6. Starting auction time to 1 hour, And change the 30 minutes rebid timeout to 5 mins. Maybe permanantly, but at least until you drain enough creds that the auctions are more reasonable..

Like I said. A tax on the bids. 10% that you wont get back. And a timer that doesn’t reset.

Originally posted by LordShoe:

Originally posted by hatemakingnames:

It will take a while to drain everyone’s bank accounts…But they should speed it up a little.

Should bump it from 3 auctions at a time to 6. Starting auction time to 1 hour, And change the 30 minutes rebid timeout to 5 mins. Maybe permanantly, but at least until you drain enough creds that the auctions are more reasonable..

Like I said. A tax on the bids. 10% that you wont get back. And a timer that doesn’t reset.

That will just make people overbid out the gate or screw over people who can’t afford the items.

The system is fine as it is and it is doing what it was intended to do (remove excess creds), it could just stand to do so a little faster than it is right now. (even if a speed-up is only temporary)

Originally posted by Vidkid88:

who needs draining other than like the top 50 pay to win players? what about us who still need to hit the 15m marker??? I wish you guys would shut up on the forums about needing things to spend credits on.

Good point. Counterpoint:

Originally posted by playmage:

There is too much credits in the economy. We are evaluating whether to replace (or augment) the current lottery system with auction system (for game generated rare/premium items) instead in the future to help drain some credits out of the economy.

Originally posted by hatemakingnames:

Originally posted by LordShoe:

Originally posted by hatemakingnames:

It will take a while to drain everyone’s bank accounts…But they should speed it up a little.

Should bump it from 3 auctions at a time to 6. Starting auction time to 1 hour, And change the 30 minutes rebid timeout to 5 mins. Maybe permanantly, but at least until you drain enough creds that the auctions are more reasonable..

Like I said. A tax on the bids. 10% that you wont get back. And a timer that doesn’t reset.

That will just make people overbid out the gate or screw over people who can’t afford the items.

The system is fine as it is and it is doing what it was intended to do (remove excess creds), it could just stand to do so a little faster than it is right now. (even if a speed-up is only temporary)

So let them overbid. Gets rid of their credits. Mission accomplished. Can’t continuously overbid if you overbid on everything. And if you do, what about the guy that wants to beat the overbid? Drains credits twice as fast.

Originally posted by TryggrWolf:

While they are adding additional ways for the top 50 players too get a full set of purple items why not do away with the mall completely and make it only for players with a level 30CC or a VIP sub.

We have pillars for rewarding strong players and galaxys. Now we have a mall thats for purely for rewarding the top branch. I think removing it completely for weaker players is only fair as they don’t deserve a chance.

Since i have 5 war/com purples i think its now time to make it so players don’t gain access too the tavern counter untill its reached level 30. New players should be given nothing. They don;t deserve more as they don’t PVP enough with their silly blue heros :P

Would you stop crying already, for gods sake. Hop under your mother’s skirt and don’t ever come back out.
The top players may have easier access to purple equipment, but guess what ….. …… they frigging need it more too. I no other game have I ever seen people whining AT ALL about stronger people having easier access to better equipment. Do you expect people playing WoW, Diablo III, … to all have access to the same equipment all the time, no matter their level, skill, … NO, so why do you expect that here.

because there is no lvl limit you have to reach before you can use the top gear.
But i dont even want to be near if it would get implimented that you need to be chapter 8+ to equip purple gear….

Originally posted by Vidkid88:

who needs draining other than like the top 50 pay to win players? what about us who still need to hit the 15m marker??? I wish you guys would shut up on the forums about needing things to spend credits on.

What about us… did you ask others before talking, because in my gal, and other ppl that i talk too that are not in my gal, are very happy with that new system. You seems to often talk for ppl but not much are willing to support you.

50 pay to win… well, i guess you dont know ppl well in TW because you can x5 that number of ppl who paid to get gold. Im pretty sure im in the top 10 who spent gold on this game and i dont have 100m cred (unless i sell my Ore and Energy all together than i can get 94M cred). So there again, your arguement is false.

15m marker…. if you cant PvP its because you choose too. I know the War Patch was a really unfair patch but a needed one. Pm could have been way more human dealing with it, but no. So you had a choice like i had one. Someone told my in my thread that i needed to change it right now or die like the others. So did i. If you still complain today that you still suffer from that patch, its your problem now cuz normaly, at that time, it should be behind.

Originally posted by TryggrWolf:

Originally posted by Atomslaya:

Originally posted by TryggrWolf:

While they are adding additional ways for the top 50 players too get a full set of purple items why not do away with the mall completely and make it only for players with a level 30CC or a VIP sub.

We have pillars for rewarding strong players and galaxys. Now we have a mall thats for purely for rewarding the top branch. I think removing it completely for weaker players is only fair as they don’t deserve a chance.

Since i have 5 war/com purples i think its now time to make it so players don’t gain access too the tavern counter untill its reached level 30. New players should be given nothing. They don;t deserve more as they don’t PVP enough with their silly blue heros :P

Would you stop crying already, for gods sake. Hop under your mother’s skirt and don’t ever come back out.
The top players may have easier access to purple equipment, but guess what ….. …… they frigging need it more too. I no other game have I ever seen people whining AT ALL about stronger people having easier access to better equipment. Do you expect people playing WoW, Diablo III, … to all have access to the same equipment all the time, no matter their level, skill, … NO, so why do you expect that here.

Why don’t you grow up and quit making immature comments. Just because someone doesen’t agree with your almightly opinion isn’t any excuse too start slinging out insults. So why don’t you debate instead of trying too act like you own the place.

My post was a example of me taking your stance on this subject. Which is we should give everything too the top players INCLUDING ME and give nothing too new players. I’m sure that will encourage players too stay? Funny how all i hear about is players quitting over the imbalances.

I have my 5 purple war coms, i have my mf and skills/purples thx too coupons but i consider other players especially when i see how long it will take them too get anywhere near my level let alone the level of the top 50 players in army strength/war. I consider other players in my galaxy who are online every day trying to get themselves stronger but then seeing the top level items being shown off for 50-100 million creds in the mall. You think its going too encourage them too keep playing? Especially when we have players in our galaxy who have been here since december and haven’t once seen more then 30 million creds nevermind 100. You may see nothing wrong with ANOTHER system rewarding the top players signicantly but that doesen’t mean its good for TW.

Your comparing 2 different games but ill go with it. In other games the level 70’s are not competiting with the levels 20’s. Also progression is much faster for lower level players then higher level ones. The gap gets shorter the longer the game is up as once a player reachs top level you are raid grinding for insignificant weapons/armour that slightly boost your overall stats. While somebody else is rushing too max level within a couply weeks. 2 different games with many mechanics too encourage new players too stay, level up and group with the strong players. They have systems that increase a noobs level too 60 for raiding in certain mmos too. So nice job with the example there. It only helps my point.

If PM wanted too get rid of the extra credits he could of just reduced the amount you get from CC’s. The only reason we have more creds then anything else is everything in the game requires more Ore then any other resource. That was flawed too begin with and thats why we have excess creds. It’s not because we got the creds through hard work it was by accident. Thats the one thing everyone has avoiding pointing out. If it was balanced too begin with then there woulden’t be a excess of credits.

You havent played much mmo in your game to think like that. One of the thing that keep ppl playing is to see the best weapon possible and dream to get it one day. Usually, we mmo have a Player to Player market where you can see so damn overprice gear and you told yourself… one day its gonna be mine. So you grind grind grind and grind until you get to it. That is what i call a goal. With that new auction system, you can finally achieve that goal.(see the mall paradox thread about odds to get purple one). We are not much in my gal using gold and we do (gold player) everything we can to help them (non gold user) to be as powerful as possible and i think they are getting there not as fast as us, but at least they can get pretty near. Why can they, because they work hard and they have a goal. No goal = no meaning = quitting.

yes, people are lucky that in this game, practically everything is “available” to anyone, no matter their hero’s level (or chapter progress), only raiding I think becomes available after a certain chapter
As Gotoxy said, I wouldn’t want to be around either when PM would decide to impose level / chapter limits on for instance purple gear, things are fine as they are now on that front. It gives newer players as much leeway into catching up with the older players as any game can give them.
And yes, in certain RPG, there are “shortcuts” to leveling up noobs, but if those noobs want to get their hands on good gear, they’ll have to grind for it themselves for a very long time, nobody will just hand it out to them. So in comparison to TW, it’s not cause they managed to get to chapter 9 fast, that they wont have to grind in PvP for enough credits to be able to get something from a live auction. Do you see anyone in D3 crying over that it’s unfair that the good gear in their Auction House costs too much and that it’s unfair that people that haven’t grinding for gold for ages can’t even manage to cough up the opening bid?

The sarcasm was dripping off of your post, hence my reply. You just took a significant group op people’s point of view and drew into the ridiculous, making them all look like a bunch of pricks. You’re the immature one that does nothing but make fun of other people’s way of viewing things. No one has ever complained about the tavern counter for instance and his has nothing to do with the matter at hand, yet you still saw it fit to drag it into this discussion.

I (nor anyone but you) has ever said that “smaller” players should be barred, I said that it’s only normal that the stronger people, the people who have been around much longer, the people that have bought gold, …. are already much farther ahead in the game and thus also require easier access to the high end gear if they want to advance any further. So yes, they should have much easier access. Because as you said, for the stronger players that are grinding, usually the stats increase they are getting from one of those lvl 40+ purple will only be marginal compared to the huge boost it would give the newer players.

ps. If i don’t care about newer players, than why am I for instance striving to have consolation prizes removed from the lotto, so that the newer players actually have more of a chance to get their hands on some lower level blue and purple gear, instead of everyone just opening a box and hoping to get the 300 coupons. I’ve never heard you question this part of the system, which is a far bigger problem imho.

pps. You happy now, PM added a chapter 4 restriction to the auctions.