[Senatry] Tips for Passing Persia

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Recommended Heroes: Calenus (Julii), Scipio (Scipii), Brutus (Brutii), Michael, Spartacus, Roscius and 3 Harpers.
Early work: Hero levels and Equipment levels being above Lv 115, Troop levels being above Lv 130, Trait Points of Heroes being nearly full, the Offense Card, Defense Card and Soldiers Capacity Card being put into use, Betterment Cards being applied on the major Equipment.

I’ll elaborate the points in passing Persia with 4 examples of Julii against NPCs.
Scout I
Scout I has all his offense and defense force centralized in the right wing and both the offense troops shoot the rage skill of Repeating Sweep. In this case we could use W array with Spartacus and Calenus settled in it. Spartacus resists much of the damage for he’s capable of the Guard skill while Calenus is an excellent shooter.
Notes: Consider the formation of the array ahead of its special bonus when necessary.

Elite NPC—Bardiya
Bardiya has 4 RS heroes. We shall use a RP Burn hero—Roscius to take care of them and order Calenus to take them down.
Notes: Harpers are suggested to be placed beside the main attacking forces to sustain their lives.

Main Force I
There are 3 Repeating Sputter heroes in his troops which could possibly be balanced by Calenus and more than 2 Harpers from your side. Priest, as the secret weapon of his, should get your particular attention and be wiped out at the first time.
Notes: Bulls and Priests should be got rid of as soon as possible in all cases.

Main Force III
This troop has a Repeating Sputter hero and 3 Harpers, so his damage is unimaginable. But still there is a way to cope with that. We’ll use V array with Spartacus settled in the middle. Therefore, the great Repeating Sputter will hurt Spartacus only. But you know, Spartacus is a born shield…
Notes: Always remember to avoid the enemy’s heavy attacks.

 
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it is easy to say so. u know how long needed to lv up 1 hero and equipments to 115+? u know how many golds and how long to up 1 hero’s traits being nearly full?
OK please login on the s1 , and click and see the heroes ranking. how many heroes r full? how many guys own them?
is that s1 opened only 1 month ago? or we should play this game 5 years first and then finish the persia?

 
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or open a new adventure system . we can cost some exps to copy 1 hero’s traits to another 1 . or all of them r bullshit

 
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First of all, i’d like to point out to aiwent, that you stole my secret plan with spartacus and W array :D.
Second – please state it clearly and without doubt – do RS heroes (Calenus for example) need red horse to beat Persia ? If answer is yes then you should know it’s so hard to get a red horse, that to my knowledge no player has managed to get one (most parts i’ve heard of is 18).
If we do indeed need red horses (and possibly red shields) – then you should STRONGLY consider increasing the chance of getting them. By that i mean chance of getting higher level dealers in entrustment as well as chance of dropping red parts from 4th dealer.

Also, what you posted here are hints and POSSIBLE ways of dealing with Persia. And many of us came up with those ideas by ourselves. But what we would really welcome is some EXAMPLES that it actually can work. I think that posting 2-3 battle reports from battles with difficult npc’s would greatly boost our confidence – that it actually can be done.

 
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aiwen , did u know how tough it is to train up new heroes and maxing their traits? this game is supposed to be casually.. lower those persia/qin’s rs defense and rs offence.. thats what im asking for.. I don’t really have time to work on new heroes…. if this is your plan to drive your players away you’re doing a decent job.

 
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I agree about the way out, not only the rs damage is way overpowered (i.e. my maxed shared 5 lvl 100+ orange shields getting 30k+ damage from 1 sputter) but normal attack is ridiculous too.. seriously, 4k+ damage with maxed aom and maxed share in a v array? come on…

 
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Aiwent, are you kidding with us? While your tips are fine on paper… most of what you wrote have been disussed in our (Julii) leaguea chat and in preparation so no complaints about it.

1) However Sarigs point stands tall: is RS dmg powerfull enough to hurt Persia npc’s? Well.. this is another topic for me so lets leave it open.

2) More pressing question is: can you explain this http://us01.senatry.com/en/?sid=206080426234666020&ip=us01.senatry.com

lvl 84 unshared Louise has 72 blocks… not the one of a kind btw.

Is this the way to clear Persia? If so why on earth didint you tell us that in the first place?

Regards Helio

 
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Thanks to Huskar and Beorn3 for this strategy

http://us01.senatry.com/en/?sid=206080340193566027&ip=us01.senatry.com

http://us01.senatry.com/en/?sid=206080121176166028&ip=us01.senatry.com

 
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my plesure,Peter :)

Hi, aiwent. I am sorry that i use some words yesterday. but really a little angry yesterday. I dont know whether u r playing this game or ever played. but it is true that it is not easy to start to use a new hero for high shared troops and traits. I remenbere that after i finished italy,i changed my array from engins to tacs. It is much easier to change at that time, because not more traits and trainning, but it also cost me a month or more. So, do u feel it is reasonable that we should change all heroes to past 1 or some npcs. it is only because only tacs can do a higher damage though it is not very high(2K+, 3K?)?
I know crookus has finished persia, and only him( dont know how about S2).I have passed the vanguard III now. so i can see 10+ replays crookus did. what i see is he defeated some (or many) npcs with luck. yes with enough luck that pompey caused dizzy many times or many misses by A-array. Can u imagine a guy with full troops heroes and full lvl equipments defeat a npc or not depond on enough luck? And then, can u imagine a guy with full troops heroes and full lvl equipments cant defeat the 1st blue npc (DeathVader)? only because he choosed rs heroes at front. is that funny? whether i can say that there is only 1 way we can defeat each npc and must have enough luck.So lets delete the engins and rs heroes, because they r useless.and we should pray all the time.
I never mind to use some specia heroes. but whether they can help me more? and there r many places for them? we only can recruit 8 heroes at most at 1 time.so is it worth to spent a lot of time and money to train him just for 1 npc? or do u feel it is reasonable that npcs cant be defeated without only 1 or 2 specific heroes?

Though i choose tacs as my main heroes all the time. but i also feel it is unfair and unreasonable to rs heroes and engins. Dont u think so?
Though i have killed vanguard III.but i think no 1 can beat beat the legion in persia because it need 8 guys have enough luck at the same time. Dont u think so?

 
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Originally posted by herfrog:

my plesure,Peter :)

Hi, aiwent. I am sorry that i use some words yesterday. but really a little angry yesterday. I dont know whether u r playing this game or ever played. but it is true that it is not easy to start to use a new hero for high shared troops and traits. I remenbere that after i finished italy,i changed my array from engins to tacs. It is much easier to change at that time, because not more traits and trainning, but it also cost me a month or more. So, do u feel it is reasonable that we should change all heroes to past 1 or some npcs. it is only because only tacs can do a higher damage though it is not very high(2K+, 3K?)?
well said :)
I know crookus has finished persia, and only him( dont know how about S2).I have passed the vanguard III now. so i can see 10+ replays crookus did. what i see is he defeated some (or many) npcs with luck. yes with enough luck that pompey caused dizzy many times or many misses by A-array. Can u imagine a guy with full troops heroes and full lvl equipments defeat a npc or not depond on enough luck? And then, can u imagine a guy with full troops heroes and full lvl equipments cant defeat the 1st blue npc (DeathVader)? only because he choosed rs heroes at front. is that funny? whether i can say that there is only 1 way we can defeat each npc and must have enough luck.So lets delete the engins and rs heroes, because they r useless.and we should pray all the time.
I never mind to use some specia heroes. but whether they can help me more? and there r many places for them? we only can recruit 8 heroes at most at 1 time.so is it worth to spent a lot of time and money to train him just for 1 npc? or do u feel it is reasonable that npcs cant be defeated without only 1 or 2 specific heroes?

Though i choose tacs as my main heroes all the time. but i also feel it is unfair and unreasonable to rs heroes and engins. Dont u think so?
Though i have killed vanguard III.but i think no 1 can beat beat the legion in persia because it need 8 guys have enough luck at the same time. Dont u think so?

well said :)
 
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As I said in this post, having to constantly hire and fire the troops we have in training becomes a major roadblock to success- there are things I’d be willing to try, but not when I’ve gotta fire everyone in the lineup.

Course we never got any GM or Dev feedback on that one.

 
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I had to fire most of my base heroes to be able to train any “special” that can help me beat the npc…probably for next few weeks I will be able to beat only npc guarding farms… lots of fun!

 
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I don’t really understand what was the original plan creating those maps, but if it was the players retention… well… epic fail my dear friend… epic fail…

That’s it…

 
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There is definately an unfair jump in relative damage with regard to the npc’s

A 120 red weapon needing 12 hits to take down an npc 10 levels higher is absurdly underpowered, just as max orange horse and wep doing 1.7k

Tactical has always been unaffected in this way throughout the game, the difference as I see it is the damage the npc do following the same principals.

Trait transferrance or buying traits instead of the exploits needed to get to scratch would give us the versatility to progress with arrays we choose instead of dictation after a year of gameplaying, make hero lvl work in pvp only. I thought the whole point of the game was ’ here’s a load of heroes enjoy’, instead of here’s 4/5 you have the choice of.

Level for level our arrays beat the NPC anyway, i salute my fellow gameplayers

they will all topple eventually =)

 
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well, if the players engine were as fabulous as the npc’s I would bring antony out of permanent retirement…

 
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Originally posted by PeterTosh:

well, if the players engine were as fabulous as the npc’s I would bring antony out of permanent retirement…

lol me too
 
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heh I want my brutus to hit for 8k like npc does, not 500 then :P

I think more slots to train heroes would be much appreciated. Right now I just cant lay off any more and would like to train/test few more heroes. If the intention was to have completely new array for each npc, we should be able to experiment more.

 
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You know, it would be great if the equipment upgrades were cheaper too

 
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http://us01.senatry.com/en/?sid=208241251164967392&ip=5.9.23.174

Don’t despair, perfection is not required – 20 lvls to play with =)

 
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Just as an update…

Persia Completed @ 100

Scouts

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1st Blue

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Vanguards

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2nd blue

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Main Force

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Elite Blue

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Darius

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You star Riko hugs outstanding accomplishment

 
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Yeah, wait til he does Qin at 100 :) Well, Qin done by both Toothy and I at 110, so it’s all doable!

 
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heheheheh he’s about to do it….. he got Bai Qi down, Wang Jian up next :D and GRATZZZZZZ you two on finishing at lvl 110 epic !

 
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http://us01.senatry.com/en/?sid=210070330160558930&ip=5.9.23.174

Just sayin…. =)

 
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT RIKKY !!! New record to beat !!! Gratz hun you are truly the best warrior Senatry has now :)))
Hard work, perseverance and above all skill, you worked very hard to get your account so good, fought for every piece of equipment the old-fashioned way (still no red horsie) and I’m soooooo thrilled for you !!!