Attention: 3-day PvP Contest! Prizes: Emerald Dragons and Gems! (locked)

New contest! New prizes! The rules are the same!

Contest rules:
1. We’ll keep track of your victories from 11 a.m. CET (4 a.m. CST/2 a.m. PST) May 25th, 2012 to 11 a.m. CET (4 a.m. CST/2 a.m. PST) May 28th, 2012.
2. All you need to do is to battle against other players and get the scores for your victories. You’re allowed to use Commander’s Auras.
3. We’ve got 3 places in 3 categories: “Recruit” (8-16 lvl), “Veteran” (17-26 lvl) and “Berserker” (27+ lvl). We count your level as of current date.
4. Victory gives you 3 scores, if you lose, you get 0 scores and if you run away from the battlefield, you get -5 scores. If your opponent runs away from the battlefield, you get 0 scores.

We do not count friendly PvP battles.

Prizes:

Berserker (27+ lvl)
1st place – 200 Gems + 3 Emerald Dragons
2nd place – 150 Gems
3rd place – 100 Gems

Veteran (17-26 lvl)
1st place – 150 Gems + 3 Emerald Dragons
2nd place – 100 Gems
3rd place – 75 Gems

Recruit (8-16 lvl)
1st place – 100 Gems + 3 Emerald Dragons
2nd place – 75 Gems
3rd place – 50 Gems

Good luck to all of you!

Greetings Nival, fellow gamers,

Here is my humble opinion on the contest. It is barely a skill contest, its an endurance/marathon contest. You do not need effectiveness (i.e. win/loss ratio) to rank high in this kind of contest, you only need time and devotion. The more you fight, the higher the chances to get fights you can win, and even with 100 losses to 15 wins, in Kong circuit at least, you can win prizes !!!

My idea on how to change this to reflect the skills : have the win/loss ratio affect the final score. It can be in the form of a multiplier, or additive bonus.

Example number one : final score = win/losses *(win *3 -flee *5)

In this example, the metric used at the moment is preserved, but the total pts earned in the contest also reflects the effectiveness of the player. It encourages more casual (but skilled) players to actually participate. As it stands, if you can’t free your schedule for the 3 days, might as well not even try !!!

Example number two : final score = win *3 -flee *5 -loss

This example also keep track of effectiveness by directly subtracting pts for defeats. It also alleviates the problem of the marathon-like nature of the contest as it stands.

Finally, yes, plz, incorporate the can’t flee after dmg feature. but also include a surrender function. where all your units are killed instantly so you can get out of a bloodbath unwinnable situation without passing rounds for several turns.

Gamon666

Well first of all, thanks for the contest, I know it is not over yet, but giving players the opportunity to win prices is encouraging in many ways.

I already read that a “non flee option” is going to be integrated, but I would like to ask for some additional small fixes to make those contest a bit more enjoyable.

1. You cannot flee. As mentioned this feature is already going to be integrated.

2. Well, you fight, you noticed that you are going to lose, what now? Watching your last stacks of units to be slain for another 2 rounds is not very encouraging. So a simple retreat option would help in my opinion. You might consider, that this option is availible from round 3, allows you to retreat at the price of 20 % of your still living units, therefor you get no 10 minute penalty and the fight counts towards one of "the proper ones ".

3. In the contest I met ppl, cheating by putting up 1 thorn hunter and trying to give “a friend” free wins. I think we can all agree, that this is not very challanging and not the way a contest should look like. To prevent that happen, I would propose to force ppl to play with 5 full stacks. That should be fair anyways, cause you should go into pvp with the intention to win.

Just my 2 cents,

Best Regards

Originally posted by maxoe:

3. In the contest I met ppl, cheating by putting up 1 thorn hunter and trying to give “a friend” free wins. I think we can all agree, that this is not very challanging and not the way a contest should look like. To prevent that happen, I would propose to force ppl to play with 5 full stacks. That should be fair anyways, cause you should go into pvp with the intention to win.

Or just prevent people to face the same opponent in the same day or put a long time cooldown before they could match up again, this would prevent people to trade wins on contests and for quests, also that will prevent people to trade units as well.

I also agreed that it should have some kind of a “surrender” option, but in a way that the opponent could only surrender if you accept it, if not, the battle continues.

Imho.

Also Nival, anything you can do against alternative accounts in KBL?

Just one more thing, Nival, you need to start “cleaning” the forums, delete or un-stick some threads please, the forums is starting to get messy.

Nival first of all do you have access to the users IP?
If yes, please check that before you post the results please.
I’m pretty sure some people are using alt accounts to cheat during contest.

Thank you.

-No stress.

Here are the 3-day PvP Contest results:

Recruits
1st place: Premier13 – 36 points (100 Gems + 3 Emerald Dragons)
2nd place: Aurablades – 33 points (75 Gems)
3rd place: Exhibition2 – 30 points (50 Gems)

Veterans
1st place: Unknownaz; Alvelikij – 57 points (150 Gems + 3 Emerald Dragons)
2nd place: TeaBoy78 – 45 points (100 Gems)
3rd place: Disappointer – 16 points (75 Gems)

Berserkers
1st place: ? (200 Gems + 3 Emerald Dragons)
2nd place: ? (150 Gems)
3rd place: ??? (100 Gems)

Congratulations!
You never stop impressing us!
Keep up the good work!
You’ll get the prizes as soon as the update is installed.

Well Hello Nival,

not gonna complain about the results as I mentioned the flaws in an earlier post. So congrats to the winners.

But you might check for errors, if players lvl up during the contest. I started at lvl 25 and proceeded to 27 during the contest, and counted 16 win without opponents fleeing. You might want to check for future results.

Best regards

wow!
I’ve got 12 counted wins!) You’ve surprised me)

But as far as I know, results in the top league are more than just expected…

Somebody count wrong win and losses. During contest i got much more points then ppl listed in 2 or 3 place. And btw my all, or close all points, are from contest time. In total Kong lists i’m 19 place.

The whole berserker side of the contest looks kind of odd…

I’m glad I pulled out after the first day and a half to do something more enjoyable. :P

I’m also really impressed that you don’t care – or don’t know how to deal with – ppl exploiting game systems.

I’m not complaining about my result. I know there are lots of ppl who won more than me and I’m not even close to 10th or 11th place.

I’m just curious. You really don’t know what’s wrong with this result? Or you just push us to find more ways to exploit the game system?

If the latter, many experienced players here and I are grad to accept that challenge.

Veterans
1st place: Unknownaz; Alvelikij – 57 points (150 Gems + 3 Emerald Dragons)
2nd place: TeaBoy78 – 45 points (100 Gems)
3rd place: Disappointer – 16 points (75 Gems)

Person responsible for count must do that again. And one more thing 1st place person cheated. Fought many times with only units of Thorn Hunters. So even when he lost he gained points !!

Well I can confirm that Alvelikij exploited the system by entering battle with 1 one thorn hunter multiple times and teaming up with a friend. Even got a couple of screenshots :o

And well Berserker class is kinda obvious, isnt it ? Morinoir played like all weekend long and tried hard, so in my opinion the results are more than unfair :o

But well, just take it as a hint for the future.

Regards

In that case i demand publishing list of win loses from contest time from Veterans classes. Also battles with players from above 26 lvls should be not count. Veteran (17-26 lvl).

why don’t you change the title of the contest to ‘trading-pvp-win contest’ or ‘making-alt-account contest’?

Anyway, this contest is nothing to do with pvp skills, right?

What a joke to even post those results. How can you not figure out that ALL 3 places in the Berzerker class are the same person.

I sure hope you don’t actually reward them for ruining your contest. Allowing stuff like this makes people STOP playing your game.

Originally posted by Strausss:

why don’t you change the title of the contest to ‘trading-pvp-win contest’ or ‘making-alt-account contest’?

Anyway, this contest is nothing to do with pvp skills, right?

Right.

In my one fight someone proposed me to making share with points in battles. But im not remember who was it. That also should be eliminated and reported.

cheat cheat cheat !!!!

check the replay plz !!!!

unknownaz and alvelikij have the same score in ladder :5149 and 5139
the two have the same level in ladder: copper !! and the players up and down are silver at least !!

check the all replays of these two !

of course, check all of my replays once more.

And in my note , i got 51 score in the contest without any doubtful point .

plz check the result and replays , thx very much !!!

i have no complaints and waitting the truth.

Ok… honestly, this is completly ridiculous. I agree with the general feeling emerging from the above posts. You have in the Berserker category a very nice hint at how people actually cheated your system. Of course publishing those results despite No_Stress warning shows a great deal of carelessness on your part.

I know that MoriNoir and me fought valiantly WITHIN the spirit of the rules, i.e. no wins-trading, no alt account exploiting, etc. I won many battles against Tatiana (1st ranked pvp) and her like, stuff to make you proud of your skills. Knowing that this is not really the point of the contest since exploiting the system to win is fully endorsed (the publication of such a berserker ranking shows this) by the dev. makes me sick.

I think ill just stop ranting right now before i start being way to aggressive in my comments.

Gamon666

The results will be double-checked.
We apologize for the mess.

thank you for ur working

Originally posted by NivalPublishing:

Here are the 3-day PvP Contest results:

Recruits
1st place: Premier13 – 36 points (100 Gems + 3 Emerald Dragons)
2nd place: Aurablades – 33 points (75 Gems)
3rd place: Exhibition2 – 30 points (50 Gems)

The users Aurablades and Exhibition2 also belongs to the user Totheheaven, actually all these accounts belong to him(alternative accounts) exhibition2, eminent2, evaluate2, eluding, distinct2, delight2, desperate, diagnosis2, diversity2, conversely, criticizes, consequence2, contributes, coollay, brushe, boltbolt, blessings, aurablades, tothelight2, tothelight, totheheaven.(maybe even more)

You can check the IPs if you want, or just confirm this with a Kong. Adm.(Maybe davidpchiu can help you with this).

Also Nival, I saw at the EULA that you do have access to the users IP, right?

IP Addresses: We do monitor and store information about the IP addresses from which you access our Services. In general, these log files are used to monitor traffic on our Services, to troubleshoot technical problems and to collect aggregate information (e.g., to monitor and analyze demographic and preference information among our users). We may block certain IP addresses to comply with specific license agreements and/or in the event we detect user abuse of our Services. IP addresses could also be used to personally identify you in order to enforce our Terms of Service.

So please check all the IPs before posting the results, and anyone that fight against himself should be disqualified immediately or even receive a IP ban.

Thank you.

-No Stress.

Originally posted by TeaBoy78:

cheat cheat cheat !!!!

check the replay plz !!!!

unknownaz and alvelikij have the same score in ladder :5149 and 5139
the two have the same level in ladder: copper !! and the players up and down are silver at least !!

check the all replays of these two !

of course, check all of my replays once more.

Hmm, unknownaz is my brother, and we playing together. So we are trying to keep our levels similar to each other.

Moreover there are no such rules that bans cooperating.

Developers, you can add new rule (in future), that ban fights with same players several time in a row or fights without full stacks of units.

P.S.: Even if this doesn’t become forbidden, I’ll never use this tactics again in any future contests.

Rules or no rules, exploiting the system, as you just admitted, has nothing to do with a contest though. I would strongly appreciaty it to remove you and your " brother" from the list of winners. Or at least adjust your score with your actual wins, ie those not against your brothers.

Regards