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And here is a helpful formula to go with it.
Profit Per Tick = Heat – Cost/Lifetime
PPT x Number of Heat Sources tells you if it’s better to keep investing in your current heat source or swap to a new one spread over more generators. Never buy the level 2 lifetime upgrade, only the level 1 is worth it. Heat Exchangers, Heat Sinks, and Boiler Houses are all wastes of money and space that could be put to better use. If you can’t 4:1 it, don’t build it.
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The 2:1 setup for the third map has one flaw for me:
One generator between two heat producers explodes, even if they have enough generators on other sides. I guess this doesn’t only happen to me?
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Whoops, I missed that one. Well, you can just scrap all 4 of those on the west side and make them into another column style like the rest. The numbers all stay the same
I’m on water pump builds now, so I kinda threw these together out of boredom for other people to benefit from. I feel like the 4:1 on region could probably squeeze another in somehow, but I’m not sure how. The rest look about as tight as they can get.
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Didn’t mean to be ungrateful, it actually helped me to add another 2 or 3 generators than my setup could handle before
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I managed to get 44 heat sources (one more than the 43 shown above) for the 2:1 setup in the third section. I put offices in the cold spaces and isolators in the hot spaces.
Making 316.5 million per tick.
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> *Originally posted by **[mrdeda](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9894380):***
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You’re correct; he made a mistake. The entire left side should continue the column pattern. You end up with 4 cold spaces and a hot space still, but without any generator-sharing heat sources..
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I don’t get it. I get dramatically better numbers from 2:1 water-cooled thermonuclear vs “air-cooled” 1:1 nuclear. I keep seeing people say it’s no use using the exotic components, but I got to higher numbers much quicker since you have three lower-level upgrade ladders to work with for a long time. 80% + of my power is from water cooling. Can someone explain why I’m wrong?
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> *Originally posted by **[seriousken](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9895736):***
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> I don’t get it. I get dramatically better numbers from 2:1 water-cooled thermonuclear vs “air-cooled” 1:1 nuclear. I keep seeing people say it’s no use using the exotic components, but I got to higher numbers much quicker since you have three lower-level upgrade ladders to work with for a long time. 80% + of my power is from water cooling. Can someone explain why I’m wrong?
You are not.
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Not my design, but this is what I’m using currently. It employs 30 cells instead of 27 max.
Well, it seems I can’t make the embed work, so here: [https://imgur.com/V5n9oq0](https://imgur.com/V5n9oq0)
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> *Originally posted by **[Orakio](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9895924):***
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> Not my design, but this is what I’m using currently. It employs 30 cells instead of 27 max.
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For the Island 2:1 you can have 9 heat sources.
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hmm, i’m noob here. in the first post, is that wind turbine? does the wind turbine generate heat? or is that something else?
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> *Originally posted by **[vastrode](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9896647):***
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> hmm, i’m noob here. in the first post, is that wind turbine? does the wind turbine generate heat? or is that something else?
its just a placeholder.
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dry 4:1 region:
was going to post 3:1 as well but someone beat me to it
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Anybody have an efficient design for the city?
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> *Originally posted by **[scooby519](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9898853):***
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> *Originally posted by **[fsjd129](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9896691):***
> > *Originally posted by **[vastrode](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9896647):***
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It’s only a model. Shh!
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How did you place water pumps where there isn’t water?
> *Originally posted by **[Granotik](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9898913):***
> > *Originally posted by **[scooby519](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9898853):***
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> *Originally posted by **[scooby519](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9899525):***
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> How did you place water pumps where there isn’t water?
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> > *Originally posted by **[Granotik](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9898913):***
> > > *Originally posted by **[scooby519](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9898853):***
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He Using Ground Water pump and those you do not need to have water nearby.
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groundwater pumps can be placed anywhere, they pump into water pumps and pipes, whereas water pumps can only be placed next to water and pump into water pumps, pipes, groundwater pumps, generators.
[sarcasm] i love the image pyramids btw[/sarcasm]
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> *Originally posted by **[jcheung](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9899973):***
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> whereas water pumps can only be placed next to water and pump into water pumps, pipes, groundwater pumps, generators.
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water pumps cannot pump into groundwater pumps.
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> *Originally posted by **[TarasD4](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9900742):***
> > *Originally posted by **[jcheung](/forums/17013/topics/565721?page=1#posts-9899973):***
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Seems like an odd restriction as water always flows to the lowest point unless it is pumped, therefore surely a GWP should be able to pump water into a generator as well (pumping into a WP is likely pointless).
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