If you had the option

If you had the option to live one of the following life’s which one would you choose.
1.You are a extremely successful person, reached all the goals you ever wanted to reach, you made various contributions to the world before you died, but you excluded yourself from family and friends in order to achieve your goals and your legacy will continue on for generations to come, but you died unhappy with a empty feeling of disappointment, and you lived a unhappy, and depressing life style.
2. You lived a average life, you did not exceed in any specific area, you made a average living enough to support yourself, and your name will most likely be forgotten and erased, after your death, you did not influence the world in any way or form, and only those close to will remember you, but you died happy, and you lived a happy life.

I choose 2.

In one, I seem to be selfish, I would be unhappy, disregard my family and friends, which isn’t a good thing.

In two, I may not have done much, but I thought what I did was enough and died happily. Knowing that I’d probably be forgotten didn’t phase me, I still lived, and died, happily. I supported myself, and I did it, I survived until the very day I died, which in my eyes seems to be an accomplishment.
In #2’s case, it seems like I was a very kind person, and even though I didn’t make a name for myself, I still died happily in the end.

2. I want to be happy.

Number 2, it made me think of Clannad.

Originally posted by Indy111:

Number 2, it made me think of Clannad.

Originally posted by Indy111:

Number 2, it made me think of Clannad.

You know, I didn’t think of it that way but you’re right~
Kinda brings back sad memories from it though..

Originally posted by Setolo:

I choose 2.

In one, I seem to be selfish, I would be unhappy, disregard my family and friends, which isn’t a good thing.

In two, I may not have done much, but I thought what I did was enough and died happily. Knowing that I’d probably be forgotten didn’t phase me, I still lived, and died, happily. I supported myself, and I did it, I survived until the very day I died, which in my eyes seems to be an accomplishment.
In #2’s case, it seems like I was a very kind person, and even though I didn’t make a name for myself, I still died happily in the end.

So, improving the world at the cost of your happiness is selfish, but making yourself a waste to the world so you are happy is not?
What do you think selfishness is?

First is kinda an odd one for me seeing as my only goal is to find my lover and make them happy. Excluding them wouldn’t really work and even being with them would make me happy.
So it’s broken.

Originally posted by Moderated:

So, improving the world at the cost of your happiness is selfish, but making yourself a waste to the world so you are happy is not?
What do you think selfishness is?

Hmm, you’ve got a point there, I didn’t think about that. But the main point was excluding family and friends and the way this character dies. But I’m not really sure what part of the life would be disappointing. It all depends on what kind of impact, I suppose you could say I’m judging how my life would be if I were in that situation. I don’t like negativity, and I’m assuming that dying without peace means that this character in #1 was not happy with the result of his life. But that’s just based off the information giving, I’m trying my best to envision this scenario.

Why did I die unhappy? Why would I be disappointed what I did? Am I disappointed that I lived without family or friends? But why not just forget those things and die in peace? Is what I’m thinking. Which is why I stated it as selfish, though based off of opinions and assumptions of how I envision it.

Yes so my point is, you can give up your happiness to save the world, but why die unhappy because of that? Wouldn’t you be happy dying for the world? I definitely, would be happy dying for the world, giving up my happiness.
Why do something if you regret doing it? In other words.
What would you pick?

Though if you think about it in another direction:
Die in Peace, or Die for Peace.

I would probably pick Die for Peace.

But this is apparently taking a different turn, in 1, the person dies after doing everything he ever wanted. After doing all that and more, the person dies unhappy and disappointed. I think I’m repeating myself now~ sorry I’m a bit tired. And now you have me thinking too much..

Oh and I have another question, why would it be a waste? There’s circumstances that doesn’t allow someone to do things that they want, I find it very admirable that someone can still die happy, and forget all negativity, even though they probably only have a friend or two, and a family. Also (according to you) an “average” life, is a waste. So that would mean everyone who’s trying to make a living daily, and have their dreams probably crushed or something of the sort, who haven’t really made a name for themselves, are a waste? That would also insult my life a bit, if that’s what you mean.

Originally posted by ayumi_stocking:

First is kinda an odd one for me seeing as my only goal is to find my lover and make them happy. Excluding them wouldn’t really work and even being with them would make me happy.
So it’s broken.

It is broken. It seems like the only correct decision is 2 based on how it’s stated… this subject seems like it has way too many ways to go. Though of course it all depends on how you view it, is why I say that.

Number 3. Become god.

Two. Happiness is the only goal I have. Although my happiness would rather include being able to get away from my family, I admit (My close family I care not for, and merely find irritating, and my extended family is just dysfunctional).

Originally posted by Ponkiny:

Two. Happiness is the only goal I have. Although my happiness would rather include being able to get away from my family, I admit (My close family I care not for, and merely find irritating, and my extended family is just dysfunctional).

I thought about that, getting away from family is something I thought of, but in my eyes, disregarding your family entirely seems to be going a bit too far. My sister got away from the family, and she became calm, and started talking with the family again. Contact is a good thing :}
I suppose it depends for everyone’s scenario though. You never know.

—There’s too many ways to interpret 1, and 2. Therefore they’re both broken, but #1 seems more broken than #2.

Originally posted by Setolo:

Originally posted by Ponkiny:

Two. Happiness is the only goal I have. Although my happiness would rather include being able to get away from my family, I admit (My close family I care not for, and merely find irritating, and my extended family is just dysfunctional).

I thought about that, getting away from family is something I thought of, but in my eyes, disregarding your family entirely seems to be going a bit too far. My sister got away from the family, and she became calm, and started talking with the family again. Contact is a good thing :}
I suppose it depends for everyone’s scenario though. You never know.

—There’s too many ways to interpret 1, and 2. Therefore they’re both broken, but #1 seems more broken than #2.

This isnt SD, we dont have logical arguments.

Originally posted by livold:

This isnt SD, we dont have logical arguments.

Sorry… :{
I like this kind of stuff, it makes me think, but sometimes I think too hard and then write WAY too much. Especially when tired, because I have to think more when tired… like now.
Probably why I like some SD topics.

Originally posted by Setolo:

Originally posted by livold:

This isnt SD, we dont have logical arguments.

Sorry… :{
I like this kind of stuff, it makes me think, but sometimes I think too hard and then write WAY too much. Especially when tired, because I have to think more when tired… like now.

That was a joke bro

Originally posted by livold:

That was a joke bro

I know ^^ no worries~
I did write to much though, so you’re right :p
The Sorry and frowny face was also a joke as well :} ~
Maybe I should have put sowwy instead…

I can’t choose 1 because I can’t influence the world for the things I want to influence them by being unhappy and depressing. I can’t choose 2 either because my ultimate goals are too powerful for me to lead an average life. Besides, an average life in modern civilization can only bring an illusion of happiness, not real happiness.

Originally posted by Setolo:

Originally posted by livold:

That was a joke bro

I know ^^ no worries~
I did write to much though, so you’re right :p

NOOOO, write the longest post ever, DO it, do it now, do iitttt

Originally posted by livold:
I did write to much though, so you’re right :p

NOOOO, write the longest post ever, DO it, do it now, do iitttt

I’m too exhausted from writing the amount I did already :o! You’re just trying to kill me now.

Originally posted by Setolo:

Originally posted by livold:
I did write to much though, so you’re right :p

NOOOO, write the longest post ever, DO it, do it now, do iitttt

I’m too exhausted from writing the amount I did already :o! You’re just trying to kill me now.

How did you know? o.>

All i want to do is to make the world a better place. But if i succeeded on this, why would i be disappointed? Nnngh, if you put it like this 2 is the best option for me

Originally posted by denamo:

All i want to do is to make the world a better place. But if i succeeded on this, why would i be disappointed? Nnngh, if you put it like this 2 is the best option for me

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