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@ Sike

why would you only stick to one loadout all the time?
there are obviously going to be times when a different weapon on the same class would be much better than your current loadout.

for example, getting dominated by a pyro that is good and blasting your rockets?
pick something harder to airblast like Direct Hit or Liberty Launcher.

tons of spies raping your team’s many engies? Equip the homewrecker and make those engies happy.

Spies keep stabbing your fatty back like a pincushion? equip the Chinese mini-gun to ward away those pesky spies. (i know they wont stop a spy from backstabbing you but spies will generally want to stab someone who is not emitting giant rings of flame from their feet)

 
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I switch around, that is what I mainly use though.

 
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Preferred loadouts:

Scout: Scattergun, Atomic punch, Sandman
Soldier: Rocket launcher, Gunboats, Escape plan
Pyro: Degreaser, Reserve shooter, Homewrecker
Demoman: Grenade launcher, Sticky jumper, Pain train
Heavy: Minigun, Sandvich, Gloves of running urgently
Engineer: Shotgun, Wrangler, Jag
Medic: Crusader’s crossbow, Medigun, Amputator
Sniper: Machina, Jarate, Bushwaka
Spy: Ambassador, Dead ringer, Black rose

 
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Medic is overpowered.

 
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Originally posted by FullMeasureZam:

Medic is overpowered.

I agree

 
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Originally posted by CrowbarOfJustice:
Originally posted by djrockstar:

I got my first stranges (YAAAAAY) probably gonna trade them for to get more weapons for my collection :3

stranges are valuable you know

stranges aren’t THAT valuable, you can get one for like 2 scrap(=4weapons)

 
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Originally posted by djrockstar:
Originally posted by CrowbarOfJustice:
Originally posted by djrockstar:

I got my first stranges (YAAAAAY) probably gonna trade them for to get more weapons for my collection :3

stranges are valuable you know

stranges aren’t THAT valuable, you can get one for like 2 scrap(=4weapons)

……facepalm

try asking for a strange minigun, rocket launcher, scatter gun, medigun, sniper, grenade launcher, or any other strange class stock weapon for 2 scrap…

>implying they all have a standard price
>implying the majority of weapons besides stock is good
>impying FaN is good

 
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Originally posted by FullMeasureZam:

Medic is overpowered.

yet nobody plays medic
even when you only need one medic to lift the entire team up
usually i am the one that becomes medic if we are getting creamed without one

 
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Originally posted by CrowbarOfJustice:
Originally posted by FullMeasureZam:

Medic is overpowered.

yet nobody plays medic
even when you only need one medic to lift the entire team up
usually i am the one that becomes medic if we are getting creamed without one

Medic is overpowered in a passive way.

They make other players overpowered.

We need a weapon that can hurt ubercharged people.

 
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Originally posted by FullMeasureZam:
Originally posted by CrowbarOfJustice:
Originally posted by FullMeasureZam:

Medic is overpowered.

yet nobody plays medic
even when you only need one medic to lift the entire team up
usually i am the one that becomes medic if we are getting creamed without one

Medic is overpowered in a passive way.

They make other players overpowered.

We need a weapon that can hurt ubercharged people.

doesn’t the engi have a weapon for that.

Originally posted by Mansmany:
Originally posted by djrockstar:
Originally posted by CrowbarOfJustice:
Originally posted by djrockstar:

I got my first stranges (YAAAAAY) probably gonna trade them for to get more weapons for my collection :3

stranges are valuable you know

stranges aren’t THAT valuable, you can get one for like 2 scrap(=4weapons)

……facepalm

try asking for a strange minigun, rocket launcher, scatter gun, medigun, sniper, grenade launcher, or any other strange class stock weapon for 2 scrap…

>implying they all have a standard price
>implying the majority of weapons besides stock is good
>impying FaN is good

FaN?

 
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Forca-a-nature

 
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Originally posted by Mansmany:

Forca-a-nature

it can be good in the right hands
i find that it is pretty good at dealing with unsuspecting heavies.

 
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Originally posted by CrowbarOfJustice:
Originally posted by Mansmany:

Forca-a-nature

it can be good in the right hands
i find that it is pretty good at dealing with unsuspecting heavies.

…..getting 3 kills in 1 life with it isn’t considered good…

Fan fails in 2 ways:

1. push back, a major downside as well as upside.
You can super jump sure, but it pushes people away when you fire
2. the clip size + reload if you miss (which you will) you have no shots left to fire until you wait for the painfully slow reload.

scattergun has 6 shots, they all have short to moderate range, and they all have accuracy

not to mention missing 90% of the time with that weapon.

also, total damage of fan can’t even kill a heavy with the whole clip.

scattergun kills heavies with half of it.

 
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Originally posted by Mansmany:
Originally posted by CrowbarOfJustice:
Originally posted by Mansmany:

Forca-a-nature

it can be good in the right hands
i find that it is pretty good at dealing with unsuspecting heavies.

…..getting 3 kills in 1 life with it isn’t considered good…

Fan fails in 2 ways:

1. push back, a major downside as well as upside.
You can super jump sure, but it pushes people away when you fire
2. the clip size + reload if you miss (which you will) you have no shots left to fire until you wait for the painfully slow reload.

scattergun has 6 shots, they all have short to moderate range, and they all have accuracy

not to mention missing 90% of the time with that weapon.

also, total damage of fan can’t even kill a heavy with the whole clip.

scattergun kills heavies with half of it.

3 kills in 1 life with it isn’t considered good

wat

 
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but it pushes people away when you fire

Which is the point of the friggin gun.
The only way you can actually count it as a downside is if you use it in a way that the ability would be worthless.

the clip size

patience negates that.

not to mention missing 90% of the time with that weapon

Relativity at its best.

total damage of fan can’t even kill a heavy with the whole clip.

I don’t see why that’s a major downside since scouts overall aren’t suppose to focus their attacks on heavies as much as other key targets like medics and snipers.
In the case of forced contact, force of nature makes it much harder for heavies to aim at scouts, adding in that FaN does more damage due to the extra bullets, which you can then widdle down the last of their health with a pistol or bat, force them to run away, or give yourself a chance to escape.

 
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scouts are good at flanking and you can’t really take out 3 people with 2 shots from FAN unlike scattergun with 6 shots you can take them out quicker.

wat

I usually get 7 or 9 kills with scout. There is this guy 10x proer than me in a server with scout :|

 
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scouts are good at flanking and you can’t really take out 3 people with 2 shots from FAN

I’m going to assume you mean a group of 3 people with the FaN
Now I’m going to assume you’ve played with people who are completely incompetent at aiming or pressing M1.

Because even as a “good” scout, rushing into a group of three players is a pretty bad idea overall and would lead to your instant death.
Also, I had forgotten to bring up this point, but
if you happen to not kill the player you wanted to kill with 6 shots from your scattergun, you will need to reload, and if you are in a hurry you just wait for that 1 bullet to reload and hit M1 again frantically.
FaN’s reload is actually a wee bit better since in one reload you get back both of your two shots instead of having to use up 3 seconds reloading all 6 of your scattergun shots.

 
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Originally posted by Mansmany:

scouts are good at flanking and you can’t really take out 3 people with 2 shots from FAN unlike scattergun with 6 shots you can take them out quicker.

wat

I usually get 7 or 9 kills with scout. There is this guy 10x proer than me in a server with scout :|

Originally posted by Mansmany:

scouts are good at flanking and you can’t really take out 3 people with 2 shots from FAN unlike scattergun with 6 shots you can take them out quicker.

wat

I usually get 7 or 9 kills with scout. There is this guy 10x proer than me in a server with scout :|

the people you are fighting against may be brain-dead if half the team is getting killed by one scout.

 
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Originally posted by CrowbarOfJustice:
Originally posted by Mansmany:

scouts are good at flanking and you can’t really take out 3 people with 2 shots from FAN unlike scattergun with 6 shots you can take them out quicker.

wat

I usually get 7 or 9 kills with scout. There is this guy 10x proer than me in a server with scout :|

Originally posted by Mansmany:

scouts are good at flanking and you can’t really take out 3 people with 2 shots from FAN unlike scattergun with 6 shots you can take them out quicker.

wat

I usually get 7 or 9 kills with scout. There is this guy 10x proer than me in a server with scout :|

the people you are fighting against may be brain-dead if half the team is getting killed by one scout.

the only thing that can really stop a scout would be sentries :|

Unless of course the scout just goes in 1 direction straight towards an enemy.

Originally posted by ritzfitz91:

scouts are good at flanking and you can’t really take out 3 people with 2 shots from FAN

I’m going to assume you mean a group of 3 people with the FaN
Now I’m going to assume you’ve played with people who are completely incompetent at aiming or pressing M1.

Because even as a “good” scout, rushing into a group of three players is a pretty bad idea overall and would lead to your instant death.
Also, I had forgotten to bring up this point, but
if you happen to not kill the player you wanted to kill with 6 shots from your scattergun, you will need to reload, and if you are in a hurry you just wait for that 1 bullet to reload and hit M1 again frantically.
FaN’s reload is actually a wee bit better since in one reload you get back both of your two shots instead of having to use up 3 seconds reloading all 6 of your scattergun shots.

eh…how do you miss with a scattergun? I…honestly…don’t :|

scouts don’t rush headon btw. It’s suicide…

 
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eh…how do you miss with a scattergun? I…honestly…don’t :|

I find it very difficult to hit with a scattergun, but that might just be because i rush head on too often

 
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eh…how do you miss with a scattergun?

scouts don’t rush headon btw.

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that’s a good one

 
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help me pick a spray

Sepulchritude

Caligula cropped

E.Y.E.

 
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Don’t use the gif, those are just obnoxious

 
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Originally posted by BobTehLoner:

Don’t use the gif, those are just obnoxious

why not?
what makes them obnoxious?

 
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Originally posted by CrowbarOfJustice:
Originally posted by BobTehLoner:

Don’t use the gif, those are just obnoxious

why not?
what makes them obnoxious?

you never answered my question