Ai Grinding You Say?

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Hey guys, this topic is just some basic information about the score/coins gained by all ai’s along with the cost at losing vs ai’s.

Here are some terms I used which you all might not know;

Enter fee: Is the cost of coins you must have if you wish to play a certain Ai.

EM (Elemental Mastery): If you win with full hp in this case of this topic 100.

W/L (Win/Lost): Every win/lost counts to your stats except friendly PvP

Formula: There are 3 types which i used the first one being the formula used to find how much score/coins you gained if it’s not an EM. The second formula is used to find how much score/coins gained if it’s a Em.

You can view the Elements Wiki Secret of Electrum and Score Gaining by Xenocidius for the simpler version.

Ai0:
Enter fee: 0
If Won: 1 (score/coins)
If EM: 1 score + 2 coins
If Lost: 0 (score/coins) Counts as a lost in your W/L
Slot: 0

Ai1 (Random):
Enter fee: 0
If Won: <= 4 (score/coins)
Formula: 1 score/coin per range of 1-24/25-49/50-74,75-99 hp
If EM: 10 (score/coins)
Formula (coins): Set reward 5 × 2 = 10 coins
Formula (score): Set reward 5 × 2 = 10 score
If Lost: 2 (coins)
Slot: 1
Slot bonus: +5 coins if the first 2 or all 3 images match up per slot (Max 5 coins)

Ai2 (Normal):
Enter fee: 5
If Won: <=9
Formula: 1 score/coin per 10hp where full hp it’s double
If EM: 20 (score/coins)
Formula (coins): Set reward 10 × 2 = 20 coins
Formula (score): set reward 10 × 2 = 20 score
If Lost: 5 (score/coins)
Slots: 2
Slot bonus: +5 coins if the first 2 or all 3 images match up per slot (Max 10 coins)

Ai3 (Elder):
Enter fee: 10
If Won: <=19 (score/coins)
Formula: If not an Em first digit in your score will be 1 where the second digit will be the first digit in your Hp. If <10 hp you will get of score of 10 (coins/score).
If EM: 35 score/ 40 coins
Formula (Coins): Set reward 20 × 2 = 40 coins
Formula (score): Set reward + ¾ of reward (20 + 15) = 35 score
If Lost: 10 (score/coins)
Slots: 3
Slot bonus: +5 coins if the first 2 or all 3 images match up per slot (Max 15 coins)

Ai5 (Half-Bloods):
Enter fee: 20
If Won: 20=><=39
Formula: If not a Em 15 + Hp/4 coins is gained and where is a Em double set reward for coins and set reward + Hp/4 for score.
If EM: 45 score/ 80 coins
Formula (coins): Set reward 20 × 4 = 80 coins
Formula (score): Set reward 20 + 25 (100/4) (HP / 4) = 45 score
If Lost: 20 (score/coins)
Slots: 3
Slot bonus: +5 coins if the first 2 or all 3 images match up per slot (Max 15 coins)

Ai6 (False Gods):
Enter fee: 30
If Won: <=59
Formula: If not a Em 35 + Hp/4 coins is gained and 65 + Hp/4 score gained and where is a Em double reward + 30 extra score.
If EM: 120 (score/coins)
Formula (coins): Set reward 35 + Hp/4 x2 = 120 coins
Formula (score): Set reward 65 +Hp/4 +30 = 120 score
If Lost: 30 (score/coins)
Slots: 3
Slot bonus: +5 coins if the first 2 or all 3 images match up per slot (Max 15 coins)

Thanks to Xenocidius for the below information:

Level 4: Arena

‘bonus’ is the base reward of the league that you win against.

However, if the deck is rank 4-9, bonus is doubled.
If the deck is rank 3, bonus is multiplied by 6.
If the deck is rank 2, bonus is multiplied by 8.
If the deck is rank 1, bonus is multiplied by 10.

Electrum: -5 + round-down(bonus / 2 + bonus * (HP / 200))
Score: -5 + round-down(bonus / 2 + bonus * (HP / 200))
If Lost: 20 (score/coins)
Regular Slots: 3 (Bronze: Unupgraded, Silver: Unupgraded, Gold: Unupgraded, and Platinum: Unupgraded.
Upgraded Card From Bonus Spin: Gold + Platinum.
Slot bonus: +5 coins if the first 2 or all 3 images match up per slot (Max 15 coins)
Special slots: 1 (Once all rings are lit)
Slot bonus slot changes: 3 Per slot. (Rare card)

EM

Double electrum gained.
Gain 20 extra score.

PvP 1

uberfactor = (your score – opponent’s score) / (absolute(your score) + absolute(opponent’s score))

Electrum: 60 + round-down(35 * (1 – uberfactor))
Score: 60 + round-down(35 * (1 – uberfactor))

EM

Gain 20 extra electrum.
Gain 20 extra score.
Slots: 3
Slot bonus: +5 coins if the first 2 or all 3 images match up per slot (Max 15 coins)

PvP 2

uberfactor = (your score – opponent’s score) / (absolute(your score) + absolute(opponent’s score))

Electrum: 100 + round-down(35 * (1 – uberfactor))
Score: 100 + round-down(35 * (1 – uberfactor))

EM

Gain 30 extra electrum.
Gain 30 extra score.
Slots: 3
Slot bonus: +5 coins if the first 2 or all 3 images match up per slot (Max 15 coins)

I am missing the Win Formulas for Ai5 and False Gods if anyone of you guys might know reply and i will update my topic.

In ‘EM’, the M is capitalised.

Originally posted by Chimto:

In ‘EM’, the M is capitalised.

Ok fixed I was getting to that along with other worded problems as i posted this topic only yesterday.

Update: PvP1/2 + Arena.

It says if you beat rank 2 in the arena it is multiplied by eight and 10. Thats wrong right?

Originally posted by poidude7:

It says if you beat rank 2 in the arena it is multiplied by eight and 10. Thats wrong right?

There is a typo where Xenocidius posted the rank data twice but has the multiplier value correct, The correct statement is, If the deck is rank 2, bonus is multiplied by 8. The 10 multiplier would be for the deck that is rank 1.

I fixed the incorrect value on this topic and I have pm’ed Xenocidius to fix the typo on the Wiki article.

Does Gold league still give out upped cards in the slot spins? I haven’t been seeing them, though I’ve been facing fully upped decks quite often.

Originally posted by LadyNightbane:

Does Gold league still give out upped cards in the slot spins? I haven’t been seeing them, though I’ve been facing fully upped decks quite often.

Yes only within the rare bonus spin of Gold and Platinum would you get a chance to earn upgraded cards. All regular slots you will earn un-upgraded cards.

Originally posted by qazzaq123:

Originally posted by LadyNightbane:

Does Gold league still give out upped cards in the slot spins? I haven’t been seeing them, though I’ve been facing fully upped decks quite often.

Yes only within the rare bonus spin of Gold and Platinum would you get a chance to earn upgraded cards. All regular slots you will earn un-upgraded cards.

So only in the bonus spins? Up in the OP, it says that it applies to the regular slots. Might want to change that. But thanks. Was totally confused when I smashed through a fully upped mono-gravity and didn’t get a single upped card.

Okey thanks, I changed it too,

“Regular Slots: 3 (Bronze: Unupgraded, Silver: Unupgraded, Gold: Unupgraded, and Platinum: Unupgraded.
Upgraded Card From Bonus Spin: Gold + Platinum.”

the coin reward is doubled if you end the game with full health. (i’ve done this with my blue/green deck against the easier AIs)

Originally posted by ericbloedow:

the coin reward is doubled if you end the game with full health. (i’ve done this with my blue/green deck against the easier AIs)

That would be a Water/Life deck using Heals right? Em’s are always lovely to gain since you get increased rewards.

Let me guess. This is a common one. Water/Life Heals Bonds (maybe) and Forest Sceptres or however you spell it.

Originally posted by knowitalljohn:

Let me guess. This is a common one. Water/Life Heals Bonds (maybe) and Forest Sceptres or however you spell it.

No Feral Bond but Improved Heal since Feral Bonds will only heal the user after the turn ends which your damage output would already kill the opponent so you wouldn’t collect the healing. (Feral Bonds would assist in healing but Improved Heals can cover it by itself) Oh and it’s Forest Spectre. :D