Which should I use?

So I’m making a Wings-based deck, and am trying to decide between Phase Spider and Flesh Spider. It’s not as much the creature as the element.

Air-
Wings
Flying Weapon+Short Bow
Thunderstorm
Shockwave
Dragonfly
Aether-
Phase Spider
Parallel Universe
Lightning
Silence
Dimensional Shield
Death-
Flesh Spider
Plague
Vulture
Poison

Obviously, I won’t be using ALL of these, the cards for each element listed are just some cards I think might go well with the deck. Wings and spiders will obviously be in. It will be powered primarily through pendulums.

If you do decide to go with aether, I would not recommend putting many/any dimensional shields in your deck, because the whole point of your deck is wings, and you can’t have both up. Phase spider does have 1 more damage, and if the enemy gets out a dangerous creature, parallel universe or lightning would generally be more effective/useful than plague. QAlso, silence can be really nice, especially if you are able to chain it.

I feel like Vultures could do more damage on top of heavy CC, which this deck should be able to do. (Plague, Thunderstorm, Shockwave) However, Aether has better single-target CC (Lightning) and a way to duplicate enemy/my creatures, giving this deck more versatility, in addition to a better lockdown (Silence). I don’t have any rares for any of these elements. Aether is slightly weaker to mass CC, though. (2x thunderstorm instead of 3x, though a single RoF will destroy anyways)

If you’re making a Wings-based deck I will suggest using Phase Spider mainly due to its +1 damage over Flesh Spider also both has low HP so I mainly judged by Attack. However the +1 damage I wouldn’t see as being important here as the main question would be, What’s the best element to go together with Air and you said you don’t have rares right? Therefore we will have to look at support cards like Poison/More creatures vs Direct CC/PU. I would go Air/Death, I would think because of the extra damage you can stack (Poison) which can be helpful if CC kills your monsters plus Death has more lower costing creatures then Aether if you need more creatures.

Thanks, qazzaq! Though poison can do a lot of damage with wings… Though yeah, parallel universe ftw.
EDIT: Pics!

Originally posted by This_Is_Ownage:

Thanks, qazzaq! Though poison can do a lot of damage with wings… Though yeah, parallel universe ftw.
EDIT: Pics!

12 pendulums in a 45 card deck? Thats a joke, right?

Oops, forgot to edit in the fixed version.

Not sure how much better it is. But I do plan on switching mark to air and getting aether pends and a few pillars, to speed things up.

Originally posted by This_Is_Ownage:

Oops, forgot to edit in the fixed version.

Not sure how much better it is. But I do plan on switching mark to air and getting aether pends and a few pillars, to speed things up.

lol its better saying you have some quanta…

It takes a few turns to set up, but once it does (assuming no Discord or OE) it doesn’t have many problems.

I would suggest removing the Thunderstorms or trading it for Lightnings and to reduce the deck down to 30 cards.

Originally posted by This_Is_Ownage:

It takes a few turns to set up, but once it does (assuming no Discord or OE) it doesn’t have many problems.

Taking time to setup is time that you could be losing. As is, your stressed on aether. And thunderstorm is next to useless all the time.

Originally posted by qazzaq123:

I would suggest removing the Thunderstorms or trading it for Lightnings and to reduce the deck down to 30 cards.

It’s a stall deck…
I’m pretty sure stall decks are bad with 30 cards. I’m going to try to fix the lack of aether quanta… on QI calculator right now.
EDIT: Nice QI with this:

Well I had thought you wanted defense by using Wings + Web ability from Phase Spider and wanted to also have some speed rather then stall anyways the deck looks better now.

30 turns of near invincibility = stall deck. :P Though I have noted that phase spiders are vulnerable to otys and demons, flesh spiders aren’t… I think I might make a death version of this deck.

I didn’t think that the Silence was needed in the first place, Also I had pick Air/Death. :P

Silence is extra stall/trolling. Death is nearly complete… QI calculator bugged up on me, isn’t registering air pend’s death generation. >.>
EDIT: Here it is, with a 5 air QI and 5.13 death QI (it started working again).

Not a fan for the Viruses + Vulture unless you’re using Cats + Bonewall + Boneyard. If you cut it plus that 1 Bone Pillar you will have a 30 card deck. :D

Originally posted by qazzaq123:

Not a fan for the Viruses + Vulture unless you’re using Cats + Bonewall + Boneyard. If you cut it plus that 1 Bone Pillar you will have a 30 card deck. :D

But unupped spiders fail hard+6 wings are overkill in a 30 cards deck.

As I said, this is a STALL DECK. Why would I want 30 cards in a stall deck, again?

But unupped spiders fail hard+6 wings are overkill in a 30 cards deck.

I agree, I would have used 4 wings. About the unupped spiders, They can always be upgraded but Death/Aether has its Pros/Cons to duo with Air, It’s really up to the creator.

Originally posted by This_Is_Ownage:

As I said, this is a STALL DECK. Why would I want 30 cards in a stall deck, again?

Who says stall decks can’t be 30 cards also if there is no need for certain cards in the deck why keep it? All you’re doing it making your deck fat just to make up what, Card count so it can have the size of stalls you seen before.

Sometimes deckout is a factor in this, you know. Considering my damage is minimal, there is no point in slimming the deck if it will cause me the possibility of decking out rather than my opponent.

Well that’s possible but most doesn’t increase their decks since it affects draws + Speed. Keep your deck size then but what if the opponent has 42 cards lol then it will beat you if the game is based on turns.

Then I hope that they have hourglasses. :P
Though I have somewhat given up on this deck as it fails miserably at PvP and ai3…
Maybe I should use these two pulvys I have…

If an opponent uses hourglasses, It’s more likely he/she will also have an Eternity to prevent decking out. :D I wouldn’t have suggested this deck you built to be used for Ai3 because why use a slow deck and gained <19 score/coins (This deck wouldn’t gain EMs unless you’re lucky) in a overall slow time/TTW (Turns To Win) when you can use a faster deck and gain multiple wins within the same time you took using the stall netting more profit of score/coins/cards. :D

Like me, If I play Ai3, I use TADAbow AI3 Domination, Rainbow style
which is a speedbow that has a high rate of EMs (83.0%). I usually win around in 6/7 Turns which has a win rate of 99.0%.

IT’S UPGRADED! And this was intended more for PvP than ai3, ai3 was just testing grounds.