Choice of destiny: Awakening or Terminus?

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Universal shard is really good, only one imperfect that you can’t stockpile shards.

Now I need to spend all of my 267 shards to packs, but which one? I can directly refuse to buy Occupation, but be confused between Awakening and Terminus.

If you have a bunch of shards, which pack you would buy?
Give me some suggestion, thanks.

 
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Personally I’m still for awakening

 
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If you want & don’t have Zarak, Skeep, Monarch, Bulwark, Eviscerator, Tazerok, Israfel, a few others, then Awakening.

If you want & don’t have Lord Halcyon, Metalworks, or Scale Hull, then Terminus.

 
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Awakening has a greater density of must-have cards, but most of us already have a lot of Awakening. I went for Terminus.

 
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awakening has the best cards overall! :D

 
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Usefull cards:

Awakening (3/45) – Zarak, Warp Sculptor, Monarch

Terminus (3/44) – Lord Halcyon, Metalworks, Sphinx

Could be missing some. Probably.

 
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Ya’ll are being way too harsh. Lord Silus, Gene Manipulator, Electro Marksman, Enrichment Vial, and others are all useful cards from Terminus. Awakening also has many good cards, it’s not like there are only a few decent cards per set.

 
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Try arrangeing both pack

Awakening

Jackpot(4+2): Zarak, Eviscerator, Radio Officer, Monarch, Gasher, Israfel

Award(7+4): Enclave Siegeship, Bulwark Guard, Reaver, Plague Burster, Kleave, Forward Base, Shuddering Keep, Tazerok, Sabertooth, Warp Sculptor, Righteous Hold

Misfire(11+1): Skin Carver, Illumus, Heaving Mass, Sunspear, Filth Spreader, Endurance, Martyr, Gaildrea, Flare of Courage, Rust Egress, Typhon’s Orders, Razogoth Reborn

Landmine(13+3): Joltrek Skiff, Miraden, Asp, Snap Seeper, Tireless Vertran, Scav Idol, Silver Jet, Shrike, Smog Unit, Watchman, Medi-droid, Retainer of Faith, Flare Singularity, Strum, Hijacker, Defiance

Participation reward: Artlier, Enclave Warp Gate

Looks like Awakening Pack also have many “Landmines”…

Terminus

Jackpot(5+4): Fenorix, Lord Halcyon, Lord Silus, MetalWorks, Enrichment Vial, Blood Wraith, Phase Lancer, Scale Hull, Silver Edge

Award(7+3): Electro Marksman, Skimitar Exosult, Flesh Reaper, Ramble Rover, Volingar, Gene Manipulator, Power Surge, Soulsteel Mount, Kendar’s Legacy, Kezerus of Blades

Misfire(8+1): Myrmidon, Flash Tank, Hazard Bolter, Sphinx, Galian Tank, Clamber Husk, Virulentus, Magnification Relay, Chayot

Landmine(14+2): Blessed Reckoner, Lightning Strider, Moonsilver Plate, Striding Plight, Drill Gunner, Torment Surgeon, Mobile Armory, Spire Raider, Repurposed Soldier, Slithold Frame, Nephilim Knight, Tread Python, Repair Bay, Skull Core, Sinew Lasher, Apsara

Participation reward: Egg Infector, Phantasm

Still have medium chance to stamp on landmines, lol

 
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I wouldn’t count out the new set due to it’s cost just yet: when I made my pack I was very happy with what I got. Of note was the card “Witch Nail,” a common (one of 8, so there’s a pretty fair chance of any occupation pack having it at the moment) xeno that is 4/7(4) with leech 4 and siege 3, which I find very useful, if a bit slow. Mind you, I consider myself not that skilled a player and my xeno deck mainly relies on a combo of mothership+warp sculptor to win, so I mainly like it as a good meatshield while waiting for those and a source of siege.

 
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Originally posted by bc007004:

Try arrangeing both pack

Awakening

Jackpot(4+2): Zarak, Eviscerator, Radio Officer, Monarch, Gasher, Israfel

Award(7+4): Enclave Siegeship, Bulwark Guard, Reaver, Plague Burster, Kleave, Forward Base, Shuddering Keep, Tazerok, Sabertooth, Warp Sculptor, Righteous Hold

Misfire(11+1): Skin Carver, Illumus, Heaving Mass, Sunspear, Filth Spreader, Endurance, Martyr, Gaildrea, Flare of Courage, Rust Egress, Typhon’s Orders, Razogoth Reborn

Landmine(13+3): Joltrek Skiff, Miraden, Asp, Snap Seeper, Tireless Vertran, Scav Idol, Silver Jet, Shrike, Smog Unit, Watchman, Medi-droid, Retainer of Faith, Flare Singularity, Strum, Hijacker, Defiance

Participation reward: Artlier, Enclave Warp Gate

Looks like Awakening Pack also have many “Landmines”…

Terminus

Jackpot(5+4): Fenorix, Lord Halcyon, Lord Silus, MetalWorks, Enrichment Vial, Blood Wraith, Phase Lancer, Scale Hull, Silver Edge

Award(7+3): Electro Marksman, Skimitar Exosult, Flesh Reaper, Ramble Rover, Volingar, Gene Manipulator, Power Surge, Soulsteel Mount, Kendar’s Legacy, Kezerus of Blades

Misfire(8+1): Myrmidon, Flash Tank, Hazard Bolter, Sphinx, Galian Tank, Clamber Husk, Virulentus, Magnification Relay, Chayot

Landmine(14+2): Blessed Reckoner, Lightning Strider, Moonsilver Plate, Striding Plight, Drill Gunner, Torment Surgeon, Mobile Armory, Spire Raider, Repurposed Soldier, Slithold Frame, Nephilim Knight, Tread Python, Repair Bay, Skull Core, Sinew Lasher, Apsara

Participation reward: Egg Infector, Phantasm

Still have medium chance to stamp on landmines, lol

How is soulsteel mount not jackpot?

 
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Originally posted by JDOELE:
Originally posted by bc007004:

Try arrangeing both pack

Awakening

Jackpot(4+2): Zarak, Eviscerator, Radio Officer, Monarch, Gasher, Israfel

Award(7+4): Enclave Siegeship, Bulwark Guard, Reaver, Plague Burster, Kleave, Forward Base, Shuddering Keep, Tazerok, Sabertooth, Warp Sculptor, Righteous Hold

Misfire(11+1): Skin Carver, Illumus, Heaving Mass, Sunspear, Filth Spreader, Endurance, Martyr, Gaildrea, Flare of Courage, Rust Egress, Typhon’s Orders, Razogoth Reborn

Landmine(13+3): Joltrek Skiff, Miraden, Asp, Snap Seeper, Tireless Vertran, Scav Idol, Silver Jet, Shrike, Smog Unit, Watchman, Medi-droid, Retainer of Faith, Flare Singularity, Strum, Hijacker, Defiance

Participation reward: Artlier, Enclave Warp Gate

Looks like Awakening Pack also have many “Landmines”…

Terminus

Jackpot(5+4): Fenorix, Lord Halcyon, Lord Silus, MetalWorks, Enrichment Vial, Blood Wraith, Phase Lancer, Scale Hull, Silver Edge

Award(7+3): Electro Marksman, Skimitar Exosult, Flesh Reaper, Ramble Rover, Volingar, Gene Manipulator, Power Surge, Soulsteel Mount, Kendar’s Legacy, Kezerus of Blades

Misfire(8+1): Myrmidon, Flash Tank, Hazard Bolter, Sphinx, Galian Tank, Clamber Husk, Virulentus, Magnification Relay, Chayot

Landmine(14+2): Blessed Reckoner, Lightning Strider, Moonsilver Plate, Striding Plight, Drill Gunner, Torment Surgeon, Mobile Armory, Spire Raider, Repurposed Soldier, Slithold Frame, Nephilim Knight, Tread Python, Repair Bay, Skull Core, Sinew Lasher, Apsara

Participation reward: Egg Infector, Phantasm

Still have medium chance to stamp on landmines, lol

How is soulsteel mount not jackpot?

Egg Infector is one of the best cards in Tyrant.

 
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Yeah lol your categories are kinda off. I don’t think anyone in their right mind would go for Awakening unless they absolutely can’t WB, just get 2 Zarak and a Monarch from Vault. Eviscerator and ROfficer are good and all but they’re not necessary cards. On the other hand, Halcyon, Metalworks, Soulsteel, and Phantasm are all absolutely gamechanging cards.

Btw, is Scale Hull that good? I have one but I’ve always ignored it in favour of other legendaries (by which I mean Heracles). It’s dangerous, sure, but when there’s Sabres and wallstalls everywhere I can’t see it working.

 
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Not many armored 3. Armored 3 means it will be good PvE wise even if you cant find a spot for it in PvP.

 
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Originally posted by bc007004:

Try arrangeing both pack

Awakening

Jackpot(4+2): Zarak, Eviscerator, Radio Officer, Monarch, Gasher, Israfel

Award(7+4): Enclave Siegeship, Bulwark Guard, Reaver, Plague Burster, Kleave, Forward Base, Shuddering Keep, Tazerok, Sabertooth, Warp Sculptor, Righteous Hold

Misfire(11+1): Skin Carver, Illumus, Heaving Mass, Sunspear, Filth Spreader, Endurance, Martyr, Gaildrea, Flare of Courage, Rust Egress, Typhon’s Orders, Razogoth Reborn

Landmine(13+3): Joltrek Skiff, Miraden, Asp, Snap Seeper, Tireless Vertran, Scav Idol, Silver Jet, Shrike, Smog Unit, Watchman, Medi-droid, Retainer of Faith, Flare Singularity, Strum, Hijacker, Defiance

Participation reward: Artlier, Enclave Warp Gate

Looks like Awakening Pack also have many “Landmines”…

Terminus

Jackpot(5+4): Fenorix, Lord Halcyon, Lord Silus, MetalWorks, Enrichment Vial, Blood Wraith, Phase Lancer, Scale Hull, Silver Edge

Award(7+3): Electro Marksman, Skimitar Exosult, Flesh Reaper, Ramble Rover, Volingar, Gene Manipulator, Power Surge, Soulsteel Mount, Kendar’s Legacy, Kezerus of Blades

Misfire(8+1): Myrmidon, Flash Tank, Hazard Bolter, Sphinx, Galian Tank, Clamber Husk, Virulentus, Magnification Relay, Chayot

Landmine(14+2): Blessed Reckoner, Lightning Strider, Moonsilver Plate, Striding Plight, Drill Gunner, Torment Surgeon, Mobile Armory, Spire Raider, Repurposed Soldier, Slithold Frame, Nephilim Knight, Tread Python, Repair Bay, Skull Core, Sinew Lasher, Apsara

Participation reward: Egg Infector, Phantasm

Still have medium chance to stamp on landmines, lol

Criticisms of lists:
Awakening
-Siegeship should be considered a jackpot, Radio officer should not.
-Flare Singularity is an Award, definitely not a land mine and not even a misfire. It’s one of the better action cards in the game.
Terminus
-Phase Lancer is an Award, Soulsteel Mount is a Jackpot. Scale Hull also does not deserve the title of jackpot, it is often overestimated. As for Blood Wraith, many would agree that it is also not a jackpot.
-Hazard Bolter should be moved up to Award, if you have a fear deck it’s quite helpful.
-Lightning Strider should be somewhere higher up, it has quick chaos and mimic with 2 meatshields.
-Magnification Relay is a landmine… really, everyone overestimates it, but I cannot find even one situation where it doesn’t have an easy, better replacement. Righteous has basically nothing to Augment.
-I might go as far as to say Skull Core is a Jackpot, it’s 1-Wait Chaos is amazing and goes really well with Egg Infectors, Flesh Reaper and Lord Halcyon with other structures.

 
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The question is which jackpot pool has a better prize :D

Terminus hands down, esp if you already receive evi back then. Zarak may get phased out very soon.

 
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Terminus.I Want Scale Hull,Metalworks,Clamber Husk And Lord Halcyon.
I Only Want Rofficer From Awakening.

 
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Criticisms of lists:
Awakening
-Siegeship should be considered a jackpot, Radio officer should not.
-Flare Singularity is an Award, definitely not a land mine and not even a misfire. It’s one of the better action cards in the game.
Terminus
-Phase Lancer is an Award, Soulsteel Mount is a Jackpot. Scale Hull also does not deserve the title of jackpot, it is often overestimated. As for Blood Wraith, many would agree that it is also not a jackpot.
-Hazard Bolter should be moved up to Award, if you have a fear deck it’s quite helpful.
-Lightning Strider should be somewhere higher up, it has quick chaos and mimic with 2 meatshields.
-Magnification Relay is a landmine… really, everyone overestimates it, but I cannot find even one situation where it doesn’t have an easy, better replacement. Righteous has basically nothing to Augment.
-I might go as far as to say Skull Core is a Jackpot, it’s 1-Wait Chaos is amazing and goes really well with Egg Infectors, Flesh Reaper and Lord Halcyon with other structures.

good list, very good criticism. I agree with almost everything u said, only minor thing I wanna add is that lightning strider is not simply up, its a jackpot.

 
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Originally posted by bc007004:

Universal shard is really good, only one imperfect that you can’t stockpile shards.

Now I need to spend all of my 267 shards to packs, but which one? I can directly refuse to buy Occupation, but be confused between Awakening and Terminus.

If you have a bunch of shards, which pack you would buy?
Give me some suggestion, thanks.

hi. if you have 267 shards, why didnt you help me fight the cap? a power of 2 is stronger then 1………..
also CongrAz for (looking like it) being number 2# on the shard tournament (which is now over)

 
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Originally posted by TheGil:
Originally posted by bc007004:

Universal shard is really good, only one imperfect that you can’t stockpile shards.

Now I need to spend all of my 267 shards to packs, but which one? I can directly refuse to buy Occupation, but be confused between Awakening and Terminus.

If you have a bunch of shards, which pack you would buy?
Give me some suggestion, thanks.

hi. if you have 267 shards, why didnt you help me fight the cap? a power of 2 is stronger then 1………..
also CongrAz for (looking like it) being number 2# on the shard tournament (which is now over)

lolwut? u still hasn’t used up your shards? You are not earning shards and you know full well Dev will never undo the limit.

 
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I want

Awakening: Eviscerator, Monarch, Israfel, Plague Burster, Kleave, Righteous Hold (and just got Zarak, and have tazerok, shuddering keep)

Terminus: Metalworks, Enrichment Vial, (already got lord halcyon, sphinx).

The other cards are probably good, but havent looked into them anough to know if I want them.
 
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Awakening, Zarak, SKeep, Monarch, Flare sing are all absolute must haves, also ROfficer, Bulwark, Evisc, Plague, Tazzy, RHold are all nice as are any extra atelier.

Terminus Metalworks, Lord H, Lord S, Skull Core are all really useful but none quite make must have for me as there is a good sub in for them, also a lot of decent cards that I may find a use for (mostly more eggs), but overall Awak seems better to me.

Occu is hardly worth 5 shards let alone 15, exception is spider den.

TT

 
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Originally posted by bc007004:

Try arrangeing both pack

Awakening

Jackpot(4+2): Zarak, Eviscerator, Radio Officer, Monarch, Gasher, Israfel

Award(7+4): Enclave Siegeship, Bulwark Guard, Reaver, Plague Burster, Kleave, Forward Base, Shuddering Keep, Tazerok, Sabertooth, Warp Sculptor, Righteous Hold

Misfire(11+1): Skin Carver, Illumus, Heaving Mass, Sunspear, Filth Spreader, Endurance, Martyr, Gaildrea, Flare of Courage, Rust Egress, Typhon’s Orders, Razogoth Reborn

Landmine(13+3): Joltrek Skiff, Miraden, Asp, Snap Seeper, Tireless Vertran, Scav Idol, Silver Jet, Shrike, Smog Unit, Watchman, Medi-droid, Retainer of Faith, Flare Singularity, Strum, Hijacker, Defiance

Participation reward: Artlier, Enclave Warp Gate

Looks like Awakening Pack also have many “Landmines”…

Terminus

Jackpot(5+4): Fenorix, Lord Halcyon, Lord Silus, MetalWorks, Enrichment Vial, Blood Wraith, Phase Lancer, Scale Hull, Silver Edge

Award(7+3): Electro Marksman, Skimitar Exosult, Flesh Reaper, Ramble Rover, Volingar, Gene Manipulator, Power Surge, Soulsteel Mount, Kendar’s Legacy, Kezerus of Blades

Misfire(8+1): Myrmidon, Flash Tank, Hazard Bolter, Sphinx, Galian Tank, Clamber Husk, Virulentus, Magnification Relay, Chayot

Landmine(14+2): Blessed Reckoner, Lightning Strider, Moonsilver Plate, Striding Plight, Drill Gunner, Torment Surgeon, Mobile Armory, Spire Raider, Repurposed Soldier, Slithold Frame, Nephilim Knight, Tread Python, Repair Bay, Skull Core, Sinew Lasher, Apsara

Participation reward: Egg Infector, Phantasm

Still have medium chance to stamp on landmines, lol

Mobile Armory Landmine? That’s 4/7/1 if played right!

 
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Finally, I decided to buy 25 Terminus Packs

Result:
1.Kendar’s Legacy
2.Lightning Strider
3.Flesh Reaper
4.Myrmidon
5.Spire Raider
6.Sphinx
7.Silver Edge(First Jackpot!)
8.Lord Silus(Great!!)
9.Lord Silus-2nd(…First Repeated)
10.Repurposed Soldier(Biggest Landmine…orz)
11.Hazard Bolter
12.Tread Python
13.Magnification Relay
14.Flash Tank
15.Clamber Husk
16.Lightning Strider-2nd
17.Moonsilver Plate(…No more goods…?)
18.Skimitar Exosult(…Alright)
19.Electro Marksman
20.Myrmidon-2nd
21.Volingar
22.Repair Bay(…Where’s Lord Halcyon?)
23.Moonsilver Plate-2nd
24.Gene Manipulator
25.Gene Manipulator-2nd

Egg Infector*3, Phantasm*2

Too sad that no Lord Halcyon and only 2 legendary, only Lord Silus and Silver Edge are I want.

 
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Yes, I’m going to have to argue on skull core’s behalf as well. here’s some fun in an attempt to use your landmines…

 
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Originally posted by masterluke:
Originally posted by Necrophades:

Awakening until you get a couple of Sundering Keeps, then Terminus until you get Lord Halcyon and a couple of Metalworks

Heh… I’ve noticed you never seem to go over 666 posts once you reached it, have you been deleting old posts in order to stay at 666? xD

Not always deleting older post, but yes.. do you want to make 777?