PMC tips

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 Hi -I'm trying to do a PMC and confused as to how to do it - I've been going a couple of days now and only have 5mill multiplier. The UB multiplier increases seem to just go up and down randomly... could someone explain. Ta I forget offhand the specific mechanics that I either worked out or had pointed out for me... But the planet multiplier is calculated based on two things: powersurge and UB kills. When you look at the tooltip for planet multiplier you'll see the two values "multi from powersurge" and "multi from ultimate beings". These should multiply together to create the stated value for the planet multiplier, I think... (Checking with my own numbers in-game right now it's close but it's not exactly the same. I calculate 33.242mil and it's actually 33.533mil.) Powersurge is very straightforward to build up. Set clones on the tab and wait. Each completion of the powersurge bar should add 1 to that value. The UB part of it, and the values stated next to each UB, gets a bit weird... I think the value next to the UB gets added to that part of it when you kill that UB, and then... all 5 UB values get adjusted with the value for the one you just killed getting divided while the others all get multiplied? I'm going to try to check this real quick. Editing after the next one dies... EDIT: No, both after a Planet Eater kill and after a Living Sun kill, all 5 values went up / nothing went down. (1% gain in the possible values after the PE kill, 3% gain in the possible values after the LS kill) Although the value for the dead one does just get added to the "multi from ultimate beings". Anyway, I haven't tried a PMC yet myself but something else about them is that I hear that UBv2s can help out a lot if you can handle them. If you've killed PEv2 in your current run your planet multiplier should be an extra x2 larger than what the powersurge and normal UBs would have gotten you, then GTv2 is x3, LSv2 is x4, and so on. (Overall result with all 5 v2s killed would be x720 times larger than normal.) Also consider that some of the other challenge rewards can help make PMCs easier. Let's see... Specifically, it was... NRC reward makes the UBs respawn quicker. UUCs and DBCs give planet level, which means faster powersurge levels. DRCs and CBCs and 1KCs help Might leveling, which helps nullify UB difficulty with "planet+" for regular UBs and both "attack+" and "defense+" for UBv2s. Iirc, the way the UB % works is that it always gives you a fixed percentage of your "multi from ultimate beings" part of the planet multiplier. For example, your first kill of PE gives 10%, and so your planet multiplier increases to 110% (No powersurge leveled). Going by that, your next PE kill should give 11% = 10% of the multiplier. However, every kill on an UB reduces its % given, untill it reaches 1/10 of it's original value. The first kill gives 10% for PE and up to 50% for ITRTG. Eventually (don't recall the way it scales down) you drop to 1% for PE, 2% for GT and so on till ITRTG is 5%. This is why UB's don't scale down; their bonus is relative to how much you already got, so it remains steady continually. This constantly scaling number is then multiplied by how much Powersurge you've invested into the run aswell. As Muljo stated, v2's help you arrive there much faster, but eventually your multiplier from UB's (which continues to grow) will get you there aswell. thanks guys! - basically I just need to plug away at it!. dunno why it has to have such a complex system! This is hands down the most efficient multiplier in the game for long runs. One post in the forum once mentioned that while climbing high P.Baal's, the planet tab allows you to kill one extra god every ~4 days, given that you do no rebirth and allow the multiplier to build up. EVERYTHING else eventually gives diminishing returns, no matter how high your stats are. Balancing such a mechanism probably requires it to be complex ;)