[this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Heroes) is the best sonic game ever

> *Originally posted by **[MrG4G4](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=3#posts-3890612):*** > > [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Heroes) is the best sonic game ever [**cough cough**](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_2_%2816-bit%29)

Shadow was not boring but Sonic made me close my PS2 on the 3rd level of Sonic Team.

> *Originally posted by **[MrG4G4](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=3#posts-3890612):*** > > [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Heroes) is the best sonic game everYou are right. It is the best but its not good

> *Originally posted by **[thesonic](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=2#posts-3890570):*** > > *Originally posted by **[thetikigod](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=2#posts-2023993):*** > > > > I never played it, so half of you say that it SUCKS, the other half say that it’s good. So I don’t know what to go with…. > > you should go with 06 sux because: > 1.horrible voice acting > 2. **i** fucked up plot > 3.bad controls > 4.way tooooooooooooooooooooooooo long > 5.tooooooo many glitches > > this list goes on farther but it looks likke its earliest form considering it came out to early > > and shadow is atleast better by a mile so dere u go You fucked up the plot? Curse you.

I actually don’t hate these games. Shadow the Hedgehog: i can explain the graphics because they were the same as Sonic Heroes idiots, it was made on the Renderware engine. as the first outing of Jason Griffith as Shadow (and by extension sonic) it’s OK but the moral route i always want to take is always too frickin difficult and i’m forced to go evil or neutra lor easy, because the other options are impossible. so i stopped playing that for a while and moved onto 06 Sonic 2006: this game is Underated-ness at it’s finest. sure the graphics sucked but it’s Sonic teams 1st game for the HD Consoles, and they weren’t that lucky. the camera never bothered me and when it did i didn’t complain. i noticed a few glitches either on purpose but one when playing Shadow crisis city i was like “WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT FUCKING INVISIBLE WALL, I CAN’T HOMING ATTACK THERE? SONIC TEAM, Y U NO NOT SHIT ME?” and whe ni experienced the controls for the first time, i was suprised at how fluent they were, they weren’t perfect but they exceeded my sloppy expectations. the critics on IGN might have their heads up their dickholes but according to the User score of the game, it’s around 7.5-ish? and when playing as silver, you actually have to cheat to get past tropical jungle. but sadly, about as good games (Modern Warfare 3) much better games (Fable II) and even worse games (Castlevania Dracula X for the Super Nintendo) got my attention much more and i lost interest before completing Silver’s Story. oh and BTW: why isn’t the music in 06 as awesome as it was in other games? ANSWER THAT!!!!! because my Revenge of the 5th is Complete! Revenge against all those idiots that agree with the critics and can’t think for themselves.

I think it was because better games came out, and because Sega did not even attempt to make Sonic any better. This made Sonic a fail 0\_0

(Flame shield activated!) I can’t take this bashing anymore, the reason sonic 06 was so “bad” was because it was rushed. and you may ask why. I believe… (and I may be wrong) that the fan-boys demanded it come out earlier, and SEGA actually listened! oh… and about shadow the hedgehog, I have played through the whole thing, and guess what… i liked it! Personally I REALLY don’t care much about voice acting, all i care about is game-play, awesomeness, and maybe the music. Honestly… some people just look at a review and just go “OK, they say it sucks, so I say it sucks!”

Both games are very good and brilliant but people just think that Sonic The Hedgehog 2006 has too many glitches but thats because people are messing around with it. Shadow The Hedgehog was NOT a horrible game I have it but then the disc got scratched so now when I play it I pick Westopilos and I just go through the ramp so both games are not their fault its the scratchings and the people.

Sonic 2006 is horrible, but don’t blame SEGA, blame their fans, they rushed them too much, they didn’t have time to fix glitches or fix the story, but Shadow the Hedgehog is great, In fact, I think they should make a Shadow the Hedgehog 2! Probably NOT gonna happen though.

> *Originally posted by **[MrG4G4](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=3#posts-3890612):*** > > [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Heroes) is the best sonic game ever [Ahem…](http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_3_%26_Knuckles)

I’d like to bring Sonic Unleashed into this discussion as well :3 I love that game, although it caused a lot of rage, I did beat it.

i think the people who hate the newer sonic games (me being one of them) just dont like the fact that sonic used to be a simple, albeit rage enhancing, side scrolling action and now its just cheesy with weird voice acting and story plots. as for the spin-offs such as shadow the hedgehog, they’re not terrible but they’re not good (in my opinion) either.

> *Originally posted by **[Joshua2001](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=2#posts-1774525):*** > > These two games are awesome. Don’t judge them if you haven’t played them. I have played tons of games with bad voices but the best gameplay alone. So don’t judge a game if you haven’t played it. I mean come on! Shadow the Hedgehog has guns…. GUNS! …guns? in a sonic game? …wtf? Guns do NOT belong in the hands of a sonic protagonist in a sonic game. They just…don’t. maybe in some sonic fanfiction. not a sonic game. Unless you’re playing as eggman himself or something, but even that’s a stretch. > *Originally posted by **[Freezerburnt](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=3#posts-3891305):*** > > *Originally posted by **[MrG4G4](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=3#posts-3890612):*** > > > > [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Heroes) is the best sonic game ever > > [**cough cough**](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_2_%2816-bit%29) Ah, that was the golden era of the sonic games.

> *Originally posted by **[riotman123](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=1#posts-479474):*** > > I mean I hear all over the internet that ‘’ Sonic the hedgehog 2006 is crap’’ and that Shadow the hedgehog is a game the should never been made and on a VGboxart.com that making a shadow sequel and sonic 2006 sequel is full of it. Whats wrong with them? Oh and now i am adding **both** sonic riders games to the disscusion and comparison. now to be fair ive only played shadow the hedgehog, many people whined about the guns mechanic ( i personally, liked it) but its plauged by LOADS and LOADS of loading, enemies that will always try to kill you (if the’re on your side and you defend yourself YOU get yelled at) in short, the game sucked, and thats just the tip of the crap berg!

I like 06 and Shadow. The only sonic game that sucks is Sonic Heroes

> *Originally posted by **[ThetaPrime01400](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=3#posts-6468333):*** > > I like 06 and Shadow. The only sonic game that sucks is Sonic Heroes Stop right there. I have played Heroes, and it was decent. I won’t deny that some of it was annoying (Pits and glitches, one of your worst nightmares.), but almost everything else made up for it.

Who cares if you got bored? It is about the storyline

> *Originally posted by **[iamawsome270](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=3#posts-7589693):*** > > Who cares if you got bored? It is about the storyline I can’t picture anyone playing a Sonic game for the plot. Sonic games, especially the two that are being talked about here, have had story lines that are filled with plot holes, characters who make moronic decisions, and crappy voice acting. Heroes and The Secret Rings also suffered from this. I must say though the games Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood and Sonic: Lost World have actually had pretty good plots. Sonic Chronicles in particular could be described as really good.

I hope this ends the whole argument: **It’s Sonic.exe’s fault.**

Here are some things I want to say about Shadow: -Many people blame Shadow because he is using guns and to that I say let him do what he wants its part of his character. If he would do the same things Sonic does then he would be just a recoloured version of Sonic. -Many people complain that Shadow could just ask his friends about his past but thats not true and here is why. What does Sonic , Amy , Knuckles , Tails, Espio, Vector and Charmy know about Shadow’s past? Rouge also doesn’t know she only said in Sonic adventure 2 that Shadow may have been an android but that doesn’t mean that she knows Shadow’s past. -I can’t say anything about the gameplay cause I never played it.

While I personally liked Shadow the Hedgehog I can understand why many didn’t. I think the gunplay is solid, but the auto-aiming made it felt like something a 3rd person shooter would be limited to on the N64. The PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox were capable of more in the control department. The multiple ending system could also be a pain, and not just because the narrative lacked focus and any sense. Completing the goals required to get the good/bad outcome for the levels were often just a pain. One section that has you shooting down one of Eggman’s blimps could have been so much easier if I could have control over where I shot instead of having to rely on auto-aiming. That just lead to me sticking with the neutral way to beat the levels, which was usually just running to the goal or killing a certain number of enemies. Also, why are these enemies so hard to find sometimes? Having to play through the game 10 times to get the real ending is also a little much. Not a huge issue when you consider how short a playthrough is though. I never encountered any, but according to many the game can have some serious glitches as well. The attempts at making Shadow and the game dark, cool, “mature,” and edgy by having him cuss were just embarrassing.

> *Originally posted by **[Seth1134](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=1#posts-480530):*** > > Shadow was a fine gmae but sonic 2006 \<\<\< Being Bored I agree. I also played Sonic Riders Zero Gravity and was fine with it. I haven’t played the first Riders game though.

> *Originally posted by **[ProfEvolution](/forums/3/topics/24377?page=3#posts-7969780):*** > > I hope this ends the whole argument: **It’s Sonic.exe’s fault.** YES. I AGREE SO STRONGLY. BECAUSE I HATE SONIC.EXE, SO I AGREE SO STRONGLY.

It is better than Mario.