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starwars would kick halos ass. sure halo has Spartans and cooler aliens but i’m sure a Jedi could kill at least 3 Spartans in combat. Plus the if you get more in depth in the star wars universe there are cannons that can literally blow up stars to cause super novas. so top that

 
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this can go two diffrent ways republic and unsc vs covenant and the empire or unsc and covenant vs republic and the emperor

 
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and i would like to sponser the syndicate project

 
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Obviously Star Wars. The technology would be highly advanced because blasters were invented before ANYTHING in Halo was invented, therefore they would be more advanced. They say you can’t be invincible, but being technologically advanced by over a million years than the opposition practically IS being invincible. Suck on that Halo. Also, the Jedi would crush any army when they had millions of years to hone their skills of the force, the death star could be rebuilt, WITHOUT being vulnerable to a cocky young man in an X-wing, therefore we could destroy any planet that the opposition own. I may not know much about Halo, but I am a Star Wars GOD. SUCK ON THAT HALO FANS.

 
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Star Wars already won.
VGW did it.
(Video Game Series War)
They had a forum about in which they post facts about who wins and why.

 
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Originally posted by kelt44:

Obviously Star Wars. The technology would be highly advanced because blasters were invented before ANYTHING in Halo was invented, therefore they would be more advanced. They say you can’t be invincible, but being technologically advanced by over a million years than the opposition practically IS being invincible. Suck on that Halo. Also, the Jedi would crush any army when they had millions of years to hone their skills of the force, the death star could be rebuilt, WITHOUT being vulnerable to a cocky young man in an X-wing, therefore we could destroy any planet that the opposition own. I may not know much about Halo, but I am a Star Wars GOD. SUCK ON THAT HALO FANS.

Really? Scientific advance in the wars universe?

Maybe before the republic. Maybe after the fall of the empire. but not during the time covered and mentioned during the core cannon of the movies. oh, a few improvements are made here and there, but nothing fundamental untill the yuzan vong (spellling?) show up with singularity weapons.

the problem is, the republic and empire have a very poor scientific attitude, and a poor understanding of their own technologies, resulting in no ftl improvement, only limited improvements in weaponry, a loss of sheild technologies, a distinct lack of metalurgical insight, and an industrial capacity that spirals into ever larger but weaker ships.
last but not least: their computers and targetting scanners have always, and will always leave, much to be desired.

1. General scientific attitude: (poor)
“If it isn’t in the archives then it doesn’t exist”-while she might have been refering exclusively to planets and stars, I find that unlikely. If she had been, why wouldn’t she have said “If a STAR isn’t in our archives, then it doesn’t exist”?-unless she believed that EVERYTHING had already been discovered.

2. FTL: (static)
Due to the awfull minute in which a certain smuggler treats “parsec” like a unit of time, and a few other factors, it is nearly impossible to directly determine whether FTL gets better, or worse, during the course of the movies.

We are thus forced into lesser cannon…most of which says that wars FTL is tied to the force in some fashion, is poorly understood by all engineers, and simply cannot be improved upon, except possibly by a particularly powerfull force-user, generally a Sith or uber Sith. Did I mention…it might just be restricted to the one galaxy?

3. Weaponry (superficial advances)
weaponry is one of the few things to have improved during the time of the empire. However, nearly all the improvements took the form of building a BIGGER gun, not a more compact gun with the same firepower. Matter of fact, it’s very possible the death star’s method of destroying planets relies more on anti-gravity than anything else; even so, it requir
es a massive device, and the second death star is bigger, not smaller.

Other weapons appear to have the same firepower for a given size between the republic and empire.

4. Shielding (loss of technology)
loss of compact technology occured. no significant developments in large-scale sheilds; death star more or less as big as they get.

While fighting the second death star, nobody even tried to overwhelm the groundside station via orbital bombardment, suggesting a very strong sheild. But during the battle with the first death star, a single shot from a fighter is able to cause an explostion in an occupied corridor, and fighters destroy a number of turrets on the surface of the death star. Substantial advancement? If so, why didn’t the emporer have backup sheilds installed on the death star already?

I conclude that to make a wars sheild strong, you have to attach it to a planet or moon, and then protect any object OTHER than the planet or moon it’s attached to, because you need something to dump the vibrations into. (maybe the harmonics will always be resonant with the object you’re trying to sheild or something. point is, that type of sheild cannot be put onto a ship).

meanwhile, small-scale sheilds were, quite simply, lost. Sheilded droids? poof. personal sheilds? Never seen in the entire series, as far as I can tell. Those sheilds used by the gungans? poof.

5. Industrial technlogies and capacity (goes down the drain)
At first, it looks like industrial technologies improve throughout-after all, the empire uses ever bigger ships as time goes on!
But it’s an illusion. An illusion created by switching to ever weaker materials as the machinary and infrastructure falls apart behind the scenes.

If star destroyers were built of the same material as the typical republic era ship, they should have roughly twice as much maneuverability as they actually do. If they were built out of a stronger material, they should have even more maneuverability. They don’t. They’re sitting ducks for f*n asteroids…which is yet anoter sign they’re made of substandard materials.

As for the second death star being bigger than the second? Rougly speaking, that big death star would have been about 3 or 4 small when finished, and had the material for 1 or two small death stars already present.

Assuming that industrial capacity remained the same, the emperor could’ve easily lured the rebels to an unfinished “death star” with only enough firepower to dent another death star (which is presumably sufficient to destroy rebel ships in one shot each), left ANYBODY in charge of it, then showed up with the REAL death star if the original plan went south. Or even just to panick the rebels.
But he didn’t. I conclude that he didn’t…because he couldn’t; he had to use a less efficient set of materials for the weapons, because the empire had run out of supplies. with less efficient materials, an even bigger death star was required just to house the weapon. before it finished, the tools started breaking.

Point is, the industrial capacity of the empire was pushed to the limits to maintain an illusion of effectiveness, but wound up collapsing around the emporer.

scanners and computers:
The asteroid that smacked into the star destroyer. The line “that’s impossible, even for a computer”. Sure, they have droids, but it’s rather obvious that the only truly intelligent droids come from the era of the republic-namely, r2-d2 and c-3po.
(side note: i’m not really sure how they even HAVE semi-sentient droids when their computers can’t hit a 6-meter target at the end of a canyon. Maybe all their droids are from the era of the republic. )
Republic era aim may not have been much better, but it was better.

If they don’t have very good computers anymore, is it any wonder they aren’t able to improve their technology?

Tldr: the wars universe is technologically stagnant, therefore the duration of the republic is insufficient grounds to declare a victory for the wars universe.

 
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Originally posted by fractalman:
Originally posted by kelt44:

Obviously Star Wars. The technology would be highly advanced because blasters were invented before ANYTHING in Halo was invented, therefore they would be more advanced. They say you can’t be invincible, but being technologically advanced by over a million years than the opposition practically IS being invincible. Suck on that Halo. Also, the Jedi would crush any army when they had millions of years to hone their skills of the force, the death star could be rebuilt, WITHOUT being vulnerable to a cocky young man in an X-wing, therefore we could destroy any planet that the opposition own. I may not know much about Halo, but I am a Star Wars GOD. SUCK ON THAT HALO FANS.

Really? Scientific advance in the wars universe?

Maybe before the republic. Maybe after the fall of the empire. but not during the time covered and mentioned during the core cannon of the movies. oh, a few improvements are made here and there, but nothing fundamental untill the yuzan vong (spellling?) show up with singularity weapons.

the problem is, the republic and empire have a very poor scientific attitude, and a poor understanding of their own technologies, resulting in no ftl improvement, only limited improvements in weaponry, a loss of sheild technologies, a distinct lack of metalurgical insight, and an industrial capacity that spirals into ever larger but weaker ships.
last but not least: their computers and targetting scanners have always, and will always leave, much to be desired.

1. General scientific attitude: (poor)
“If it isn’t in the archives then it doesn’t exist”-while she might have been refering exclusively to planets and stars, I find that unlikely. If she had been, why wouldn’t she have said “If a STAR isn’t in our archives, then it doesn’t exist”?-unless she believed that EVERYTHING had already been discovered.

2. FTL: (static)
Due to the awfull minute in which a certain smuggler treats “parsec” like a unit of time, and a few other factors, it is nearly impossible to directly determine whether FTL gets better, or worse, during the course of the movies.

We are thus forced into lesser cannon…most of which says that wars FTL is tied to the force in some fashion, is poorly understood by all engineers, and simply cannot be improved upon, except possibly by a particularly powerfull force-user, generally a Sith or uber Sith. Did I mention…it might just be restricted to the one galaxy?

3. Weaponry (superficial advances)
weaponry is one of the few things to have improved during the time of the empire. However, nearly all the improvements took the form of building a BIGGER gun, not a more compact gun with the same firepower. Matter of fact, it’s very possible the death star’s method of destroying planets relies more on anti-gravity than anything else; even so, it requir
es a massive device, and the second death star is bigger, not smaller.

Other weapons appear to have the same firepower for a given size between the republic and empire.

4. Shielding (loss of technology)
loss of compact technology occured. no significant developments in large-scale sheilds; death star more or less as big as they get.

While fighting the second death star, nobody even tried to overwhelm the groundside station via orbital bombardment, suggesting a very strong sheild. But during the battle with the first death star, a single shot from a fighter is able to cause an explostion in an occupied corridor, and fighters destroy a number of turrets on the surface of the death star. Substantial advancement? If so, why didn’t the emporer have backup sheilds installed on the death star already?

I conclude that to make a wars sheild strong, you have to attach it to a planet or moon, and then protect any object OTHER than the planet or moon it’s attached to, because you need something to dump the vibrations into. (maybe the harmonics will always be resonant with the object you’re trying to sheild or something. point is, that type of sheild cannot be put onto a ship).

meanwhile, small-scale sheilds were, quite simply, lost. Sheilded droids? poof. personal sheilds? Never seen in the entire series, as far as I can tell. Those sheilds used by the gungans? poof.

5. Industrial technlogies and capacity (goes down the drain)
At first, it looks like industrial technologies improve throughout-after all, the empire uses ever bigger ships as time goes on!
But it’s an illusion. An illusion created by switching to ever weaker materials as the machinary and infrastructure falls apart behind the scenes.

If star destroyers were built of the same material as the typical republic era ship, they should have roughly twice as much maneuverability as they actually do. If they were built out of a stronger material, they should have even more maneuverability. They don’t. They’re sitting ducks for f*n asteroids…which is yet anoter sign they’re made of substandard materials.

As for the second death star being bigger than the second? Rougly speaking, that big death star would have been about 3 or 4 small when finished, and had the material for 1 or two small death stars already present.

Assuming that industrial capacity remained the same, the emperor could’ve easily lured the rebels to an unfinished “death star” with only enough firepower to dent another death star (which is presumably sufficient to destroy rebel ships in one shot each), left ANYBODY in charge of it, then showed up with the REAL death star if the original plan went south. Or even just to panick the rebels.
But he didn’t. I conclude that he didn’t…because he couldn’t; he had to use a less efficient set of materials for the weapons, because the empire had run out of supplies. with less efficient materials, an even bigger death star was required just to house the weapon. before it finished, the tools started breaking.

Point is, the industrial capacity of the empire was pushed to the limits to maintain an illusion of effectiveness, but wound up collapsing around the emporer.

scanners and computers:
The asteroid that smacked into the star destroyer. The line “that’s impossible, even for a computer”. Sure, they have droids, but it’s rather obvious that the only truly intelligent droids come from the era of the republic-namely, r2-d2 and c-3po.
(side note: i’m not really sure how they even HAVE semi-sentient droids when their computers can’t hit a 6-meter target at the end of a canyon. Maybe all their droids are from the era of the republic. )
Republic era aim may not have been much better, but it was better.

If they don’t have very good computers anymore, is it any wonder they aren’t able to improve their technology?

Tldr: the wars universe is technologically stagnant, therefore the duration of the republic is insufficient grounds to declare a victory for the wars universe.

Ahem. 1. Those are words of an old,hubristic librarian. One person. You forget the large amounts of smugglers and explorers who scour the galaxy
2.Semi Valid,My only argument is that Han may have been lying,He also isn’t the brightest star in the galaxy if you know what I mean
3.The Death Star’s Laser broke the crust of the planet and heated the core to the point where enough energy was released to destroy the planet,The Death Star also had unimaginable numbers of turbolaser banks and other defenses, Rebel ships had excellent pilots,even then they took heavy losses. You would be surprised to see how much development went into weapons. Its not like during the clone wars everyone said “WELP, I GUESS ARE GUNS ARE GUD ENUF. HERP A DERP” They were ships from the same era fighting each other,So obviously they will be on par with each other ,but if a Venator took on A Star Destroyer,The Star destroyer would win hands down!
4.It was UNDER CONSTRUCTION. You have never seen a droideka? IF you saw gungan shields YOU PROBABLY SAW A DROIDEKA IN THE MOVIE.
5.Still the CIS and Banking clan can turn out BILLIONS of droids and Last time I checked,Durasteel was strong enough to comprise nearly everything in the Galaxy.Also,A UNSC Ship would fair worse in asteroids due to its lack of shielding. Also,You have never seen a Star Destroyer move at full speed. If a captain went at full speed into asteroids,IT would essentially destroy any ship. More importantly, You cant throw asteroids so why are you acting like the Halo ships would do better inside a cloud of debris?
6.You know alot,but apparently you forgot to admit that the nav computers on a ship can plot a course in a MILLISECOND that would take it half way across the galaxy. Not only that but Like I said, The Star Wars saga spans Hundreds Of Billions of Years, The Halo universe currently only in about 2558 or 2600.
Also,If the space forces of the Star Wars Universe are as bad as you say, I can still shoot down your ships with shots from my hypervelocity gun or my Ion cannon,Or even my planetary turbo laser, They may have a Limited window of fire,But chances are my base is around it,And your ships would come nicely into range if you wanted to provide orbital support.
Also,Mac Platforms are only built over occupied planets due to their MASSIVE power requirements,In a space battle over my turf,They are USELESS.
And If you get past that, The Republic’s SPHA-T Can just blast em out of the sky!
And Droids NO MATTER WHAT cannot be taken over by the flood,Even if you managed to take out EVERY LIVING THING IN THE STAR WARS GALAXY,The Factory Worlds can still Pump out BILLIONS of droids.Literally, We would win via tech or Attrition.
I love Halo and Star Wars,But The Star Wars tech is EONS past Halo’s

 
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can’t believe this is still going on.

 
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Originally posted by ForTheCity:

can’t believe this is still going on.



shhh...i'm honing my argumentative skills for my philosophy in law class.



Originally posted by madnessfan01:
Originally posted by fractalman:
Originally posted by kelt44:

Obviously Star Wars. The technology would be highly advanced because blasters were invented before ANYTHING in Halo was invented, therefore they would be more advanced. They say you can’t be invincible, but being technologically advanced by over a million years than the opposition practically IS being invincible. Suck on that Halo. Also, the Jedi would crush any army when they had millions of years to hone their skills of the force, the death star could be rebuilt, WITHOUT being vulnerable to a cocky young man in an X-wing, therefore we could destroy any planet that the opposition own. I may not know much about Halo, but I am a Star Wars GOD. SUCK ON THAT HALO FANS.


Really? Scientific advance in the wars universe?


Maybe before the republic. Maybe after the fall of the empire. but not during the time covered and mentioned during the core cannon of the movies. oh, a few improvements are made here and there, but nothing fundamental untill the yuzan vong (spellling?) show up with singularity weapons.


the problem is, the republic and empire have a very poor scientific attitude, and a poor understanding of their own technologies, resulting in no ftl improvement, only limited improvements in weaponry, a loss of sheild technologies, a distinct lack of metalurgical insight, and an industrial capacity that spirals into ever larger but weaker ships.

last but not least: their computers and targetting scanners have always, and will always leave, much to be desired.


1. General scientific attitude: (poor)

“If it isn’t in the archives then it doesn’t exist”-while she might have been refering exclusively to planets and stars, I find that unlikely. If she had been, why wouldn’t she have said “If a STAR isn’t in our archives, then it doesn’t exist”?-unless she believed that EVERYTHING had already been discovered.


2. FTL: (static)

Due to the awfull minute in which a certain smuggler treats “parsec” like a unit of time, and a few other factors, it is nearly impossible to directly determine whether FTL gets better, or worse, during the course of the movies.


We are thus forced into lesser cannon…most of which says that wars FTL is tied to the force in some fashion, is poorly understood by all engineers, and simply cannot be improved upon, except possibly by a particularly powerfull force-user, generally a Sith or uber Sith. Did I mention…it might just be restricted to the one galaxy?


3. Weaponry (superficial advances)

weaponry is one of the few things to have improved during the time of the empire. However, nearly all the improvements took the form of building a BIGGER gun, not a more compact gun with the same firepower. Matter of fact, it’s very possible the death star’s method of destroying planets relies more on anti-gravity than anything else; even so, it requir

es a massive device, and the second death star is bigger, not smaller.


Other weapons appear to have the same firepower for a given size between the republic and empire.


4. Shielding (loss of technology)

loss of compact technology occured. no significant developments in large-scale sheilds; death star more or less as big as they get.


While fighting the second death star, nobody even tried to overwhelm the groundside station via orbital bombardment, suggesting a very strong sheild. But during the battle with the first death star, a single shot from a fighter is able to cause an explostion in an occupied corridor, and fighters destroy a number of turrets on the surface of the death star. Substantial advancement? If so, why didn’t the emporer have backup sheilds installed on the death star already?


I conclude that to make a wars sheild strong, you have to attach it to a planet or moon, and then protect any object OTHER than the planet or moon it’s attached to, because you need something to dump the vibrations into. (maybe the harmonics will always be resonant with the object you’re trying to sheild or something. point is, that type of sheild cannot be put onto a ship).


meanwhile, small-scale sheilds were, quite simply, lost. Sheilded droids? poof. personal sheilds? Never seen in the entire series, as far as I can tell. Those sheilds used by the gungans? poof.


5. Industrial technlogies and capacity (goes down the drain)

At first, it looks like industrial technologies improve throughout-after all, the empire uses ever bigger ships as time goes on!

But it’s an illusion. An illusion created by switching to ever weaker materials as the machinary and infrastructure falls apart behind the scenes.


If star destroyers were built of the same material as the typical republic era ship, they should have roughly twice as much maneuverability as they actually do. If they were built out of a stronger material, they should have even more maneuverability. They don’t. They’re sitting ducks for f*n asteroids…which is yet anoter sign they’re made of substandard materials.


As for the second death star being bigger than the second? Rougly speaking, that big death star would have been about 3 or 4 small when finished, and had the material for 1 or two small death stars already present.


Assuming that industrial capacity remained the same, the emperor could’ve easily lured the rebels to an unfinished “death star” with only enough firepower to dent another death star (which is presumably sufficient to destroy rebel ships in one shot each), left ANYBODY in charge of it, then showed up with the REAL death star if the original plan went south. Or even just to panick the rebels.

But he didn’t. I conclude that he didn’t…because he couldn’t; he had to use a less efficient set of materials for the weapons, because the empire had run out of supplies. with less efficient materials, an even bigger death star was required just to house the weapon. before it finished, the tools started breaking.


Point is, the industrial capacity of the empire was pushed to the limits to maintain an illusion of effectiveness, but wound up collapsing around the emporer.


scanners and computers:

The asteroid that smacked into the star destroyer. The line “that’s impossible, even for a computer”. Sure, they have droids, but it’s rather obvious that the only truly intelligent droids come from the era of the republic-namely, r2-d2 and c-3po.

(side note: i’m not really sure how they even HAVE semi-sentient droids when their computers can’t hit a 6-meter target at the end of a canyon. Maybe all their droids are from the era of the republic. )

Republic era aim may not have been much better, but it was better.


If they don’t have very good computers anymore, is it any wonder they aren’t able to improve their technology?


Tldr: the wars universe is technologically stagnant, therefore the duration of the republic is insufficient grounds to declare a victory for the wars universe.


Ahem. 1. Those are words of an old,hubristic librarian. One person. You forget the large amounts of smugglers and explorers who scour the galaxy

2.Semi Valid,My only argument is that Han may have been lying,He also isn’t the brightest star in the galaxy if you know what I mean

3.The Death Star’s Laser broke the crust of the planet and heated the core to the point where enough energy was released to destroy the planet,The Death Star also had unimaginable numbers of turbolaser banks and other defenses, Rebel ships had excellent pilots,even then they took heavy losses. You would be surprised to see how much development went into weapons. Its not like during the clone wars everyone said “WELP, I GUESS ARE GUNS ARE GUD ENUF. HERP A DERP” They were ships from the same era fighting each other,So obviously they will be on par with each other ,but if a Venator took on A Star Destroyer,The Star destroyer would win hands down!

4.It was UNDER CONSTRUCTION. You have never seen a droideka? IF you saw gungan shields YOU PROBABLY SAW A DROIDEKA IN THE MOVIE.

5.Still the CIS and Banking clan can turn out BILLIONS of droids and Last time I checked,Durasteel was strong enough to comprise nearly everything in the Galaxy.Also,A UNSC Ship would fair worse in asteroids due to its lack of shielding. Also,You have never seen a Star Destroyer move at full speed. If a captain went at full speed into asteroids,IT would essentially destroy any ship. More importantly, You cant throw asteroids so why are you acting like the Halo ships would do better inside a cloud of debris?

6.You know alot,but apparently you forgot to admit that the nav computers on a ship can plot a course in a MILLISECOND that would take it half way across the galaxy. Not only that but Like I said, The Star Wars saga spans Hundreds Of Billions of Years, The Halo universe currently only in about 2558 or 2600.

Also,If the space forces of the Star Wars Universe are as bad as you say, I can still shoot down your ships with shots from my hypervelocity gun or my Ion cannon,Or even my planetary turbo laser, They may have a Limited window of fire,But chances are my base is around it,And your ships would come nicely into range if you wanted to provide orbital support.

Also,Mac Platforms are only built over occupied planets due to their MASSIVE power requirements,In a space battle over my turf,They are USELESS.

And If you get past that, The Republic’s SPHA-T Can just blast em out of the sky!

And Droids NO MATTER WHAT cannot be taken over by the flood,Even if you managed to take out EVERY LIVING THING IN THE STAR WARS GALAXY,The Factory Worlds can still Pump out BILLIONS of droids.Literally, We would win via tech or Attrition.

I love Halo and Star Wars,But The Star Wars tech is EONS past Halo’s




you seem to have misunderstood my intention: aside from wars lousy computer systems, I have no idea which one is actually more technologically advanced, as I just don't know enough about halo. It may well be that wars is more advanced. it may well be that halo is more advanced.


My thesis here is that wars looses technology between episode set 1 to 3 and episode set 4 to 6.

1. Fair enough. perhaps there is some scientific attitude ouside of the library.
2. It's more that whoever gave han that line messed up royal, and obfuscated what could have been a fully-cannon statement of wars FTL capability. (At least trek has the decency to make up brand new units when they want to sound precise but give no accuracy whatsoever, but that's another story.) ESPECIALLY for the purpose of comparing ep. 1-3 and ep. 6. "fully cannon FTL speeds" are highly questionable due to difficulty in finding both a distance and a time for any jump. So i'll go with lesser cannon and say it just doesn't advance.

3. If you're going to compare wars with halo to suggest wars develops tech fast, then I can go ahead and strengthen my case: the death star does not count as an emperial advance, becuase it was designed BEFORE the fall of the republic. it may count as a palpatine advance, but it still happened before he finished transmuting the republic at large.

4. first death star sheild: it's a two-layer sheild, right? well, the outer sheild lets fighters get in, and the inner sheild lets fighter shots get through into corridors to some degree. clearly, the sheild does not give as much protection as might be desired.

second death star: nothing blocking the route to the core. no emergency sheilds, no core sheild to speak of, no nothing except the planetside sheild.


Also: droidekas are seen in the first three episodes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not believe they are seen at all in the last three episodes.


also: the elite troops sent down to deal with the rebels do not have personal sheilds.
also: well, I suppose we can't actually rule out that the gungans still have their style of sheild.

5.


They USED to be able to do that. Where are the droid armies in 4-6? there aren't, as far as I can tell. You have to use lesser cannon to try to claim they still have that capacity.

Huge max speed is not equivalent to good maneuverability. max speed is dictated more by total fuel, and the least of: (ability to handle corrosion from space dust, and max forward acceleration). I'll even concede they may have decent forward thrust, if star destroyers are designed to withstand large amounts of forward acceleration at the expense of being somewhat fragile under torque.
...most ships probably couldn't survive a max-velocity encounter with an asteroid field as dense as that one, unless they use something clever or are insanely maneuverable for their max velocity. (Star Trek ships come to mind again. )


6. A milisecond? han may have a funny way of showing off, but he knows the Falcon. I'm pretty sure the computer took a couple seconds to compute the course when he was telling luke you couldn't just fly the ship like a fighter (?) .
I still quote "that's impossible, even for a computer".

also: R2D2 doesn't encounter much of a firewall when he plugs in. perhaps the weapon and engines are protected, but...if wars universe is advancing at a rapid pace, why is an outdated droid able to hax in so eaisly? my answer: he's not so outdated after all.
p.s. either that or there's just a massive technological discrepancy between droids and convential computers that only makes sense if some jedi or sith did something to the entire galaxy.



thus, the wars universe clearly experienced some noticeable technological decline, and remained rather stagnant in other places.

7. other stuff entirely:
"Also,Mac Platforms are only built over occupied planets due to their MASSIVE power requirements,In a space battle over my turf,They are USELES"
...on the other hand, I wouldn't want to get hit by one of those simple-yet-effective planetary Mac rounds while in anything smaller than a death star. a mass effect I'm glad we both agree that the planetary macs are quite a bit more powerfull than the on-ship macs, though.



Meanwhile, lesser cannon LOVES to play around with the idea that the sith used to be a LOT more powerfull, and that the technology used to be LOT better, too, so don't go looking to lesser cannon to suggest the wars universe has a track record of consistent technological advance.
 
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halo.
if its all halo factions versus star wars, halo wins cough forerunners cough cough
if its just surviving factions star wars might win

 
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Halo would win if it is all halo factions versus all star wars factions cough cough forerunners cough
star wars would probably win if its just the surviving halo factions and just the two main star wars factions

 
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I don’t think many of you are aware of the Aang Ti. The Aang Ti are a species in Star Wars similar to the Yuzan Vong. They are force sensitive and use flow walking. Flow walking is like time travel, except you are only noticed if you wish to be. You can alter the future or past, or just observe. With that ability, the Aang Ti could prepare and counter whatever Halo could do.

 
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Originally posted by Haloforerunner:

halo.
if its all halo factions versus star wars, halo wins cough forerunners cough cough
if its just surviving factions star wars might win

If anything…you’ve got it backwards. If you invite the forerunners into the fight, you have to invite the uber-sith to play as well.

uber-sith (I forget the official name, really) can knock fleets out of orbit with the force. they may be glass cannons, but…

Say, that’s a great idea! halo/wars crossover to explain why the forerunners were too occupied to put enough intellect towards finding a way to kill the flood without killing everyone else, and why the uber-sith society finally collapsed!

Now what was I trying to say? Oh nevermind.

 
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halo 2 is good and all but its so short.

 
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Star Wars. The force DUUUHHH

 
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last time i checked spartans were supersoildrs

 
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they could throw clones with one hand and suckerpunch jedis

 
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Halo guys shoot at Jedi. Jedi spins lightsaber, bouncing all projectiles back at Halo guys. Single Jedi: 1, Horde of Halo soldiers: 0

 
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Originally posted by jonny0panic:

Halo guys shoot at Jedi. Jedi spins lightsaber, bouncing all projectiles back at Halo guys. Single Jedi: 1, Horde of Halo soldiers: 0

Well, the Spartans shoot bullets, so either the jedi would send molten metal or a cloud of ash into his face when blocking the bullets, and they would most certainly not bounce back. And as shown in episode three, Ki Adi Mundi was easily overwhelmed by 5 clones(considerably less than a “horde” as you put it), and he could even deflect their shots. The UNSC will obviously send a lot more than 5 troops into battle, and the jedi are not all powerful, as some such as yourself would like to believe, so the jedi will not be a huge factor that turns the tide of the war.

 
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plus as seen in the old republic there is little clones so the battle would be mainly jedis

a human factor would be the allknown MAC round and the hunters

 
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Halo would DESTROY Star Wars.

 
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Ok this can either go a few ways. You can have UNSC at full power and Covident at full power V.S Empire at full power and rebels at full power, UNSC/Covident (yes full power) V.S Repulic and Sepritists, or UNSC, Covident, Forruners, Flood, and anchint humans (all at full power) V.S Rebublic, Sepristis, empire, and rebels (at full power). When fighting the empire, i would give this round to Halo. At this point in time, you only have one extreamly powerful faction (empire) while the republic is scatered and not so mighty. The UNSC and Covident could pull out the arbtir, the profit, and its squads of SPARITNS in order to counter the few jedi and sith during this time period. Over all the armys of the UNSC and freinds would simply be able to out fight the empire, but it would be relitivly close depending on how many SPARTINS survive. Now with the UNSC/Covident VS the republic and seprits, i would give it to wars. There are enough jedi and sith in order to over power the Spartins and profit. The remaining armys of wars also appear more powerful that HALO for this period of time. Now the big battle. With ALL that HALO and Wars has to offer (forunners empire, all the good stuff) i would say that Halo would win. The flood would be able to consume all senian life (or most) making it easy for UNSC and forrunners to kill everything. If the UNSC would play deffence and prevent wars from entering space, you could prevent any and all attacks on halo. With the flood and covident killing all sentian life, that would allow the anchint humans and foruners to kill the droids. Anything that would survive the flood and covident would be killed off by the forruners. And in an emerginsie, the HALO rings would be fired and all halo spices would be sent to the ARK to live on. Halo wins 2/1. Sorry about spelling, i dont care.

 
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Well, Halo wins to me.

First of all, the UNSC has an entire array of MAC cannons that would destroy anything lesser than the death star. The jedi might overwhelm a few SPARTANs, but remember, Anakin almost got killed by some mine droids (or something of the sort). The death star would be as strong as, if not weaker than the covenant high charity, their holy city. If they got desperate, the covenant could just release a bunch of dreadnoughts and be done with it.

If any of you guys know about halo 4, or know about the UNSC Infinity, which is 3.5 miles long, it could blow up a few star ships with some MAC rounds and the archer missile pods. The UNSC has already started a new SPARTAN IV program and has a ton of SPARTANs now. This being said, about 5 SPARTANs could defeat one jedi, and the jedi are very low in numbers.

If the empire joined, the Forerunners would come and let the Didact kill everybody, and outnumber the empire simply by releasing a crap ton of crawlers and knights, and the promethean knights would release watchers, and annihalate everything in the death star. If all else failed, the Forerunners would get every race into shield worlds and activate the halo array, which would leave everything dead in the galaxy except for the few remaining, uncommanded droids, and all the other races in the galaxy.