A reasonable topic on runescape for anyone who doesnt just want to flame page 4

Jagex started as two guys in a basement with no funding.

I’m sure you’re fully aware of the sarcasm.

I am. But it has been shown that there are people who are utterly ignorant, and I couldn’t really take the chance of them interpreting it literally.

Enough said, the haters are the people who PLAYED RS for quite some time like me (I was a Runescape Classic player) and as the time went by, the game started flooding with immature people like what kirdaiht said. Jagex started listening to those cry babies and removed most of it’s fun features. Before it was intended for ages 13+ now it does not, since of the massive amounts of little kids.

MAIN　REASON
Basicly, the players realized it started getting crappy and wasted their time. So we’re tell you. Although it may not seem like it, you will find that it WILL suck.

So we’re tell you. Although it may not seem like it, you will find that it WILL suck.

We appreciate hearing advice. We don’t appreciate having that advice force fed to us.

Heh… I hope you don’t mind if I take that and quote it elsewhere. I like that line. :p

Feel free to, Sorator. =)

there is a way to prevent you from having trouble with runescape floods in the chat, simply go trough the entire chat section and mute evrybody who is curently playing runescape.

im gonna try and be sensible when i say this, even though i despise the game runescape:
Runescape is a good game if you want to like it, personally i hate it because i wasted my life for about 2 years sitting on a computer playing it…
It’s obviously here to stay, as all the Haters best reasons are:
1. It will attract loads of 10 year old stupid babies. My argument:
Shock horror! Jesus…you guys are acting like 8 year old stupid little gits who need to have about 70 hrs more sleep.
2. Its a MMORPG! This is a Flash/Shockwave Game site! My argument:
So is Starfighter, and MMORPG is a Genre of Game (yes, im pretty much quoting this, i think it was Dalewyn) and Flash is a way of playing a game, so its like your saying shooter games can’t go into a N64 game shop because its a n64 game shop, not a shooter game shop…
3.It sucks My argument:
I agree with this one, but its an Opinion…the defenders always seem to say stuff like: IMO its a great game or I think its a good game. Whereas the haters say: It sucks or its a bad game.

Notice Defenders only put what THEY think, and the haters but what they think is true…

If you want it taken off then type something detailed, as most you haters are probably on kong all day long trying to complete every game, but now your pissed that a game you dont want to complete or it takes to long to complete is up, so you flood the forums and comments and stupid little things like that.

As i always say when i don’t like a game:
Don’t play it and if you can, then even better…make a game you want to play…

Let’s examine what we have here. We have a community of mostly children and teenagers (Kongregate), and a community of children and young teenagers (Runescape). Runescape is a very simple game to play, it requires little intelligence – this is not an opinion, mind, this is definitely a fact.

Now because Runescape requires little intelligence, this attracts a very immature and young crowd. Go take a look at a Runescape chatroom and at any point in time you will see many many unintelligent people conversing.

The reason Runescape should NOT be on Kongregate is because it will attract a VERY large number of immature and unintelligent people. While it’s obvious that Kongregate already has a good chunk of these people, it definitely does not need more.

Now from a business perspective, I can understand why Kongregate is excited to have Runescape on here – it would seem that because its here, they will get floods of users coming here and playing it. But honestly, this is a bad assumption. It is going to be much easier and more beneficial to players to log in from Runescape’s own website. So essentially anybody with brains is not going to be logging in here at Kongregate, rather they’d just go to the Runescape site and log in there.

So, this just guarantees that anybody coming here to play Runescape is going to be unintelligent. This is why we as a community should not, and obviously do not (look at Runescapes rating right now, ridiculously low) want to have Runescape on this website.

With a new game, it’s almost always a matter of “if you don’t like it, don’t play it” but with an old game, especially one with a community, this is a problem because that community and Kongregate’s community will have to blend together.

TLDR: Runescape’s community is unintelligent for the most part. Kongregates is not as bad. Combining the two is a very bad idea. It is obvious that the majority of Kongregate does not want Runescape here for whatever reasons, therefore it should be removed.

Now as for my own opinion on the matter, if my suspicions on the community problems are true, I can definitely say for sure I will no longer be visiting Kongregate. I like Kong because I’ve met some intelligent people on here that I can converse with, and the general userbase is not as stupid as most sites. There are tons of flash game sites and they’re all pretty much the same, the only real advantage I see with this one is the achievement system and the userbase.

“It is obvious that the majority of Kongregate does not want Runescape here for whatever reasons…”

Whoah, hoss. Hold on a minute, there. Proof?

And no, the dozens of idiots spamming the various Runescape-related posting areas does not constitute proof. That’s just a small, vocal minority (some of whom made new accounts just so that they’d look like there were more unhappy people!). The majority of the people haven’t said any opinion at all.

The reason Runescape should NOT be on Kongregate is because it will attract a VERY large number of immature and unintelligent people. While it’s obvious that Kongregate already has a good chunk of these people, it definitely does not need more.

In all honesty I think we’ve seen more RS haters spawning from Kong than we’ll ever see RS nubs spawning from RS in the same amount of time.

So essentially anybody with brains is not going to be logging in here at Kongregate, rather they’d just go to the Runescape site and log in there.

I login through here (if I play) because I prefer to be able to chat with fellow Kong people, and I certainly have a brain. It’s bad assumption on your part that everyone logging onto Runescape via Kongregate will be idiots, because it won’t be.

So, this just guarantees that anybody coming here to play Runescape is going to be unintelligent. This is why we as a community should not, and obviously do not (look at Runescapes rating right now, ridiculously low) want to have Runescape on this website.

You’re basing your assumption off of skewed facts, that rating on Runescape was killed with prejudice so badly it’s not even close to being accurate. Not to mention the spam accounts probably made to multi-down-rate Runescape. If anything, it’s the great majority of the people of Kongregate being the unintelligent ones.

With a new game, it’s almost always a matter of “if you don’t like it, don’t play it” but with an old game, especially one with a community, this is a problem because that community and Kongregate’s community will have to blend together.

I don’t see what’s so wrong about two communities assimilating into each other. If one took over the other that is a different story entirely, but mixing together doesn’t necessarily mean disaster. Why people can’t at least give the game a chance is beyond me. Besides, this war has shown Kong is as equally as bad as RS as far as immaturity is concerned. Flaming, misguided facts, ignored attempts by the wiser part of the Kongregate community to enlighten people, spam accounts, how much worse can you get?

if my suspicions on the community problems are true, I can definitely say for sure I will no longer be visiting Kongregate.

If you leave Kong, so be it. You won’t make a dent, not even a small one.

UnknownAX (sorry, i dunno how to quote, i’m new to the forums =p )
Thank you very much, at last, an extremely sensible argument for the haters side.
Now, i know in my last post i may of made it seem i wanted runescape to stay, well, i don’t mind, but that argument, very long and descriptive, caught my eye very well, i can see your not being one of those babyish 8 year olds complaining that the stupid little 10 year olds that will come will be almost as annoying as them.
I do agree with the matter, but i’m pretty damn certain runescape players are too stupid to chat on the kongregate community, but if they do, i can see why you want to leave, as the MOST stupid chat i’ve seen so far is where we all went to gregs house and thought of ways to kill him…i think he sent a stampede of elephants at our van though =/
Anyway…the conversations would go from that at worst to “Hey, look at me, i was only kept behind 8 frikin years at school, and im almost out of playgroup!”
So, quite frankly, i don’t want that either, and if theres only a few, i would mute them/change rooms, but as runescape is so big because of idiots donating so much money so they can go pick flax instead of kill bears, then a lot of people would come, meaning there would be no more space to talk. Moderators would need to work extra time making enough chat rooms, and then moderating all of them, making sure no flaming is going on or something like that.
Now, i used to like the idea of being a mod, but if runescape stays and idiots start chatting here, it is probably saver to run to yet another game site, untill we see runescape idiots there…
I’m tired of running away from runescape dorks, it’s conquered most game sites, and this is the only good community left, and i’m going to stand strong against those idiots untill it’s conquered the rest of the internet, and then maybe i would just have to shut of myself from the internet community’s as much as i’d hate to for a long long time…

I don’t get what all the crying is about. If you don’t like the game, don’t play it. And the whole “it will ruin the community” argument is a total contradiction. The threads crying about Runescape being added totally outweigh anything I’ve seen so far from the Runescapers… (BTW I hate Runescape too, but I just don’t see the harm in including on Kongregate)

Dalewyn, I like how you are telling me that I’m ASSUMING things, yet at the end you ASSUME that my goal for leaving Kongregate would be to make a negative impact on Kongregate, while I did not even say what my objective to leaving Kongregate would be. To clarify, although I thought this was rather obvious, I would leave Kongregate because I would not enjoy the site anymore. I come to this site for entertainment – if a major feature such as chat is ruined by even more immature kids than I’m capable of tolerating (which, if you’d bothered to read my argument without bias, you would’ve realized that my points are completely valid) then I would most definitely not be enjoying my experience here, and therefore would leave.

The problem with Kongregate and Runescape combinining is that Runescape is host to a completely different type of userbase. Runescape is for people who spend many hours each day playing the same game that from a non-MMO player perspective would not be entertaining for more than an hour. Kongregate hosts a huge variety of gamers, from casual to “proffesional” if you will. Certainly, Kongregate has a good chunk of people who are the same type that play Runescape, but IF something caused a lot of Runescape players to visit Kongregate, this would increase that amount tremendously.

Now, it’s obvious that your mind is made up Dalewyn, and it’s also obvious that a lot of other peoples’ minds are made up. Your opinion has been shown, as has mine. There is no reason to continue our conversation about this topic, nor is there any reason that either of us should even continue to post. In fact, it will hurt both of our cases, if you will, if we continue to post. For instance, my current opinion on you is that you’re the generic troll who sits in an internet argument and continously argues with anybody brave enough to stand up to you until you’re the only one left, in which case you would think you’ve “won”. Now while this may not be the case, this is certainly how you’re appearing to myself and likely many others visiting this thread.

So if I may, I suggest you and I both respectfully disagree and stop talking about this subject, in hopes that perhaps we both won’t look like jackasses and other people can get their say in as well.

I don’t get what all the crying is about. If you don’t like the game, don’t play it. And the whole “it will ruin the community” argument is a total contradiction. The threads crying about Runescape being added totally outweigh anything I’ve seen so far from the Runescapers… (BTW I hate Runescape too, but I just don’t see the harm in including on Kongregate)

Y0ttabyte, this is exactly how i feel, yet “haters” really don’t seem to understand that they can easily mute runescape idiots, or change rooms!

anyone more than me got a trojan because of it ?

I don’t like the game. I played it for a couple of months, got fed up with it, it was mainly the boring combat system I hated, but that’s beside the point. I don’t like the game, and no ones forcing me to play it. I think Kongregate can do better than Runescape, but that’s my opinion. As for it ruining the community, why would the players come here when it is just as easy to go to runescape.com. Everyone should quit whining, the game isn’t hurting you by existing. Just ignore it if you don’t like it.

Lets start a runescape boycott!

Billywill, if you start that up again, I will hunt you down. RS is staying on Kong.

Although I agree that Runescape has every right to be on Kongregate, that doesn’t mean that it should be. Kongregate was designed for a place for game designers to get recognition for their games. However, Runescape already has a large enough community. Smaller, newer games are likely to get less attention because of Runescape, defeating the purpose of having Kongregate in the first place.

However, Runescape already has a large enough community.

This logic makes no sense. Do you want to remove all of Armorgame’s games too! I mean, they have a large enough community.

Smaller, newer games are likely to get less attention because of Runescape, defeating the purpose of having Kongregate in the first place.

So, the presence of Runescape prevents people from playing other games?

surely, if it gets low rating it will be shown on main page, I have never seen a hot new game with such low rating on kongregate O_o , i hope it wont be forced on main site.
dalewyn, “We appreciate hearing advice. We don’t appreciate having that advice force fed to us.” thats a saying of a smarter teenager when he gets caught taking drugs and people tell him to stop :P
Its just like wow, i would take people away from it even by force to try and save their pathetic lifes ^^

Kongregate is a community with people of age 13-40 , you call that children and teenagers? I more often see adult people on chats (usually university students) than kids. And as RS let us see, its for <15 people. :)

Reality Check…

1) Runescape is not going to bring players here to corrupt the community. If someone is searching for Runescape or Free MMO they will go to Runescapes website.

2) Runescape is crippled – so is the current leader Bubble Tanks 2

3) Runescape has extra content for pay – so are several other games on the site

4) It gave me a virus – no it didn’t, your system was already infected.

The content is being hosted by Jagex, so there is no extra load. It cannot use the Chat API so their will be no badges or challenges to complain about.

As far as I can see, the only way Runescape effects the site it a 1″×1″ icon in the ‘New Games’ section, and an abundance of flames in the forums….

blacksheep, read, think, then maybe write :P you should be a bit more open-minded and objective. Free runescape is more like a demo, its not extra content, its 70% of the game.
And thats about your post :)