Star Wars VS Halo with would win? page 54

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Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

mayhaps making a point instead of trolling would help

 
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Errrrm Idk but this video might help :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVkpvEB2eNY

 
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Originally posted by bgammax:

mayhaps making a point instead of trolling would help

Anyone who says mayhaps is an arsehole, and you’re dumb regardless.

 
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My point was made… Almost twenty-five pages and a year ago.

 
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Originally posted by urine420:
Originally posted by bgammax:

mayhaps making a point instead of trolling would help

Anyone who says mayhaps is an arsehole, and you’re dumb regardless.

oh boohoo fail troll fails

Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

My point was made… Almost twenty-five pages and a year ago.

your “points” were just time wasting ways to say don’t just say x wins.STARWARS INVINCIBLE

 
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Originally posted by Captain_Catface:
Originally posted by Captain_Catface:
Originally posted by Captain_Catface:
Originally posted by Captain_Catface:
Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

Star Wars Killer 2.0

Shields: In Star Wars, larger ships are protected with a Ray Shield and a Particle Shield. These shields acted independently of each other, the Ray blocking energy-based weaponry, and the Particle blocking ballistic weaponry. The shields are able to sustain broad damage for massive amounts of time; and can generally only pierced by focused damage on a single location. Because of the double layered shield; it would require both Covenant and UNSC forces to be present; since no ship in the Halo universe is armed with both projectile and energy weaponry. The ships in Halo weren’t even all shielded. The UNSC did not use ship-sized shields; and those that the Covenant used were weak. They could be depleted in a few shots from a MAC, or with a single nuclear missile. In addition, they were forced to lower sections of their shield while firing their plasma weaponry. The shield systems in Halo are simply less powerful.

Also; the use of infantry shielding. In Star Wars, it isn’t particularly common, though Droideka were all equipped with a shield; making them very dangerous. In addition, shields were available against all sorts of damage sources; one of which was sonic. In Halo, all Spartans/Elites were equipped with shields; but they could be depleted with only a few rounds. The massive power difference between weapons would likely result in single hits being enough to deplete them with a blaster rifle. And, considering the firepower of the DC’s, this means even a Spartan or Elite would be decimated in barely two shots.

Weapons: We have been over this. Seriously. The ballistic weaponry used by the UNSC would be almost incapable of piercing the Star Wars ship’s shields; let alone the armor. The Covenant Ships, while more powerful, would still find it difficult to break through the more powerful shielding systems. Still, it would require fire from both ballistics and energy weapons, focused on a single point to disable the shields. The Halo forces simply don’t have the firepower capable to destroy a Star Wars fleet. Star Wars weaponry, on the other hand, is much more powerful. In addition, Star Wars ships are more heavily armed, for example, the armaments on an Imperial II-Star Destroyer were: 10 Tractor Beam Projectors, 20 Heavy Ion Cannons, 30 or more Turbolaser Batteries, 5 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, and 8 Ion Cannons. The weaponry on a UNSC Marathon-Class is 2 MACs, 5 Fusion Rockets, as many as 300 60-Rocket Archer Missile Pods, and several 50mm Point Defense guns, that could only be used for engaging fighters. This shows that the most powerful ships used by the UNSC are easily outmatched. The Covenant’s strongest ship, their Supercarrier, had a minimum of 7 Energy Projectors, along with an unknown amount of Plasma Turrets, and Pulse Laser Turrets for point defense. It is again beaten in heavy weaponry; though it may possess more light weapons; regardless, the comparative weakness of it’s weapons will result in the light weapons being almost entirely ineffective.

Land: We shall start with the Jedi and Sith: Because of their force manipulation; they will be easily able to dodge or reverse bullets, as well as the much-slower energy weaponry used by the Covenant. More advanced weaponry could still be blocked as easily as blaster fire. In addition, their lightsabers could easily disable plasma swords, thanks to their stronger magnetic field. Personal shielding would also prove to be useless against a lightsaber. For the most part, there is no defense against force blasts, other than having your own psionic abilities; which none of the Halo forces have. As such, a Jedi or Sith would easily be able to massacre the enemy forces.

In addition to the Jedi are the land troops. Consisting of Mandalorian clones, highly-trained Stormtroopers, and AI Battle Droids, they could easily outmatch anything Halo could provide. Both Mandalorians and Droids have superior speed, strength, endurance, and reaction times to humans, resulting in higher skill. They would also be highly resistant to all but the most powerful ballistic rounds. While Spartans would still be faster and stronger; they simply wouldn’t be able to defend against the massive firepower packed by the Star Wars forces, because of their weak defense.

Numbers: I saved this for last, because regardless of what Halo can come up with, this is the trump card. There were billions of Droids and Clones, with hundreds of millions being deployed in single battles. In addition, there were even more Stormtroopers. The Empire consisted of, and recruited from, millions of planets; resulting in a terribly massive number. Even using estimates, the number is enormous: If the Empire controlled only one million inhabited planets, and were only able to recruit one hundred thousand people off of each planet, that results in 100 billion Stormtroopers. In addition, a single Droid factory was capable of producing 1000 Droids per hour. Halo on the other hand consists of the UNSC, the Convenant, the Flood, and what’s left of the Forerunners. The UNSC consisted of the 210 inner colonies, some of which had been destroyed by the Covenant. Almost all of the Outer Colonies had already been glassed. The Covenant doesn’t have a listed amount of colonies, though it can be assumed to be slightly higher than the UNSC; since they were only able to field a slightly higher amount of units. The Flood are still easily defeated. Since they would be entering a new galaxy, they would be forced to ‘build’ a new Gravemind, which would leave them in their feral state for a long time. The Empire, unlike the Forerunner, would have no regrets destroying an infected planet to prevent the infection from spreading. In addition, the massive Droid army would be completely immune to infection, and therefore able to easily destroy any Flood infections; especially since the Flood are terribly weak against high-temperature weaponry.

Lastly, we have the Forerunner Keyship. The keyship is very powerful; it’s portal emitting an EM pulse, and possessing a powerful shield and laser array. The final keyship was most likely destroyed when installation 04b fired; but if it was not, there are still many reasons it would be ineffective. While being the most powerful ship remaining in the Halo universe; it is very close to being on-par with the Star Wars ships, though it still uses inferior weaponry. For this, I am going to say that the Yuuzhan Vong would be the most effective, as their ships are a combination of biological and technological systems. As they wouldn’t be completely disabled; they would be able to provide an adequate opposition. Their weapons consisted of pure plasma, and Worldships contained hundreds of them. In addition, their most powerful weapon, the Dread Weapon, was capable of ripping into enemy ships or stations, and ‘sucking out’ all of the lifeforms. In addition, their Dovin Basals were capable of generation micro-singularities, which would be lethal regardless of the Keyship’s defenses.


That was my original mega-post, which I thought was enough to end this discussion; but it apparently was not. So, I have decided to take some time to expand on the various topics covered above; including some more detailed explanations.

Shield: I really believe I have explained this as much as is necessary. I am, of course, assuming that before arguing you do know the basics of how energy shields work; and the primary difference between those in Star Wars and those in Halo. In Star Wars, there are separate shield: Those that protect against energy weaponry, and those that deflect against ballistics. These shields are assigned power as-needed based on what collides with the respective shields. This adaptive shielding, combined with the massive amounts of energy dedicated solely to the shields, result in a shield that can only be pierced by focused fire. Halo shields, on the other hand, are a single layer that defends against ballistics and energy weaponry. Halo’s shields also drain power from the ship’s primary power source; as opposed to an independent source. These factors, combined with the relatively low power output of the ships, results in a far more fragile shield.

Weapons: I suppose many of those who actually take the time to read this; and are discussing seriously, already know the basics of ballistic and energy weaponry. These can be divided into four categories: True Ballistics, Beam Weapons, Plasma Weapons, and Energized Bolts. True Ballistics are, however more advanced, low-velocity weapons that rely on kinetic energy and light explosives. They are the weakest weapons available. Beam weapons use an incredibly got beam of light that converts matter at the point of impact into plasma; giving it the ability to, at a massive power drain, bore through the targeted area. Plasma weapons use an electromagnetic field to hold plasma into a ‘ball’ of sorts, which causes massive damage on impact. The last, and generally most powerful, category of weapons are energized bolts. These weapons use a super-dense ‘bullet’ that is contained in a ball of plasma. This combines the kinetic power of a bullet, sped almost to the speed of light, with the energy damage of the plasma bolt. Star Wars features all of these weapons, though primarily plasma and charged bolt weapons. Halo, on the other hand, features only ballistics, weak plasma weaponry, and amazingly inefficient laser weaponry.

Land: Absolutely nothing here needs to be restated. Masterchief’s/Elite’s shields are incredibly weak. The armor employed by all Halo forces is incredibly weak. With an expanded understanding of the weapons, it is easy to establish that Halo is outgunned. A single shot from a bowcaster is more than capable of killing a Spartan. Two at most from a DC blaster. Factoring in that the DC is fully automatic, shoots plasma blasts that move at the speed of light, and has almost unlimited ammo; it cannot be argued that Halo has stronger units. Regarding the Flood: They aren’t a trump card, even remotely. The Flood are incredibly fragile, and would easily be mopped up by the massive legions of plasma-armed Clones/Droids/Troopers.

Numbers: For the love of god, I am not expanding on this. The odds are literally millions to one, against Halo; and the the Star Wars forces could create more units per day than exist in the Halo forces.


If you read nothing else in this post, please read this: If you are unwilling to make a valid point; and plan on simply shouting that your side is superior, please do not waste your time. If you do plan on making a valid post, please have read my entire post.

I’m just gonna keep quoting this till y’all stop bumping it.

I figure, I haven’t copy/pasted it for a few pages… And, since people have started bumping it again…

You rang?

Oh?

 
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Originally posted by bgammax:
Originally posted by urine420:
Originally posted by bgammax:

mayhaps making a point instead of trolling would help

Anyone who says mayhaps is an arsehole, and you’re dumb regardless.

oh boohoo fail troll fails

Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

My point was made… Almost twenty-five pages and a year ago.


your “points” were just time wasting ways to say don’t just say x wins.STARWARS INVINCIBLE

My GOD are you a hypocrite. Look at the damn megapost, hes explaining everything while your saying “Flood wins because there flood”

 
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@Captain_Catface Your numbers point is valid, though for those troops to be deployed in a ground battle, millions of troops on a battlefield would be really dense, and vehicles like scorpions, wraiths, banshees, rocket and gauss hogs could easily take out a lot of troops in one shot, thinning out their ranks for the UNSC/Covenant/Flood to push through. All the Halo forces would have to do would be fire a MAC round from space to disable said droid factories.
On the subject of the flood, jedi/sith wear no armor, and pores in the air would be a serious problem. The Forerunner robots were equipped with energy beams, some Sentinels being large enough to level entire cities with their weaponry, and the flood still pushed forward and continued to battle the forerunners. The flood could even reanimate dead bodies and turn them into combat forms or infection forms, so even if the covenant or UNSC already killed stormtroopers/rebels, they could still be infected, and the flood would gain their memories and weapons, so Halo would start to have equal footing in terms of weaponry in ground battles.
In space, the extreme number of covenant and UNSC ships could carry a very large amount of fighters, and the convenant could deploy phantom gunboats, each having heavy councussion energy weapons. The amount of sabres, banshees, and seraphs would overwhelm the star wars fighters. As I’ve said earlier, the UNSC’s orbital defense platforms’ super MACs could fire a 3000 ton slug at .5c, giving them an annihilating 10 teraton yield. Let me know if a star destroyer can handle that.
With all of this said, I’m betting on Halo to achieve victory

 
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Originally posted by Snipe27:
Originally posted by bgammax:
Originally posted by urine420:
Originally posted by bgammax:

mayhaps making a point instead of trolling would help

Anyone who says mayhaps is an arsehole, and you’re dumb regardless.

oh boohoo fail troll fails

Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

My point was made… Almost twenty-five pages and a year ago.


your “points” were just time wasting ways to say don’t just say x wins.STARWARS INVINCIBLE


My GOD are you a hypocrite. Look at the damn megapost, hes explaining everything while your saying “Flood wins because there flood”

glad someone missed 8 different posts and every time I stated that the flood don’t need to develope a Gravemind in the Star Wars Galaxy,just proto-Graveminds(who are nowhere near as tough to make) and the 1 arguement me and Catface had.Just so you could jump to a conclusion.Still not the most ignored facts yet though.

 
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Originally posted by bgammax:
Originally posted by Snipe27:
Originally posted by bgammax:
Originally posted by urine420:
Originally posted by bgammax:

mayhaps making a point instead of trolling would help

Anyone who says mayhaps is an arsehole, and you’re dumb regardless.

oh boohoo fail troll fails

Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

My point was made… Almost twenty-five pages and a year ago.


your “points” were just time wasting ways to say don’t just say x wins.STARWARS INVINCIBLE


My GOD are you a hypocrite. Look at the damn megapost, hes explaining everything while your saying “Flood wins because there flood”


glad someone missed 8 different posts and every time I stated that the flood don’t need to develope a Gravemind in the Star Wars Galaxy,just proto-Graveminds(who are nowhere near as tough to make) and the 1 arguement me and Catface had.Just so you could jump to a conclusion.Still not the most ignored facts yet though.

Thanks for helping with the “Massive hypocrit” thing.

“The only gravemind that is vunlrable is a proto-gravemind”

“Flood will only use proto-graveminds”

My brain just hurts…

Originally posted by xxGameMasterxx:

@Captain_Catface Your numbers point is valid, though for those troops to be deployed in a ground battle, millions of troops on a battlefield would be really dense, and vehicles like scorpions, wraiths, banshees, rocket and gauss hogs could easily take out a lot of troops in one shot, thinning out their ranks for the UNSC/Covenant/Flood to push through. All the Halo forces would have to do would be fire a MAC round from space to disable said droid factories.
On the subject of the flood, jedi/sith wear no armor, and pores in the air would be a serious problem. The Forerunner robots were equipped with energy beams, some Sentinels being large enough to level entire cities with their weaponry, and the flood still pushed forward and continued to battle the forerunners. The flood could even reanimate dead bodies and turn them into combat forms or infection forms, so even if the covenant or UNSC already killed stormtroopers/rebels, they could still be infected, and the flood would gain their memories and weapons, so Halo would start to have equal footing in terms of weaponry in ground battles.
In space, the extreme number of covenant and UNSC ships could carry a very large amount of fighters, and the convenant could deploy phantom gunboats, each having heavy councussion energy weapons. The amount of sabres, banshees, and seraphs would overwhelm the star wars fighters. As I’ve said earlier, the UNSC’s orbital defense platforms’ super MACs could fire a 3000 ton slug at .5c, giving them an annihilating 10 teraton yield. Let me know if a star destroyer can handle that.
With all of this said, I’m betting on Halo to achieve victory

Valid point, but please do not look at the strengths of one side. Look at the strengths of both sides, and youll see most of halos stuff is nulified/reduced.

 
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http://webzoom.freewebs.com/gaianknight/mechs/GaianWarships.gif

These ships can take on any halo ship and win.

 
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Not sure if canon…

 
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Originally posted by mitchebs:

Halo would win out of sheer firepower.
Yes, I know that star wars has the death star (which is capable of destroying planets), but the fact of the matter is this: even in the Return Of The Jedi the rebel fleet was able to withstand long enough for the fighters to destroy the death star. and that was against the death star II (which could fire shots alot more frequently than the original death star model) and the Imperial Fleet of star destroyers.
Now, take the Fleet of Particular Justice out of Halo: Reach (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Fleet_of_Particular_Justice), it says the fleet had 341 ships in it. 341!!! If you take 341 Covenant Ships (most with energy projectors capable of destroying other ships in a single shot) and put it against the death star II and the rest of the Imperial Fleet, Halo would still win becaus of the number of ships and the weaponry. Halo would loose maybe 100 ships in the process of destroying the death star (assuming the death star II still has the shield from endor), but that would still leave 241 more ships to finish off the rest of the Imperial Fleet!

Halo would win for ship to ship (energy projectors, at least one per ship [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_projector]. shielding, each ship shield could survive one mac round before breaking [or a hell of alot of laser fire, because it could also survive some energy projectors])
Star Wars would win for infantry (jedi)
Halo would win for armoured land vehicles (scarab, wraith, revanent, ghost, and human ships)
Star Wars would win for aircraft (in atmosphere)
Halo would win for starfighters (banshee and serephs, because of the sheer number that 341 ships would carry)
Halo would win for last resort weapons because of the halo rings as well.

All in all: Halo would win based on the size of the Covenant army and navy. And alot of this I wasn’t even factoring in the power of the UNSC army and navy. Jedi’s would put up a good fight, but I don’t think their lightsabres would protect their ship from an energy projector.

HALO WINS!!!

1. But it was REBELS, bro. Bloody star wars fighters aren’t as advanced as them. Hell, a banshee can be blown out of the sky by a few shots from a UNSC sniper rifle.

2. 341 ships, wow, I bet the empire’s shitting bricks. Them covenant ships there, they kill HALO ships in one shot. Read the shield section on catface’s ultra mega super post that I happened to read completely. Hurt my eyes. Also, 341 ships isn’t that much, I mean, for one fleet it’s quite a bit (I assume), but refer to the the numbers section on the afore mentioned super ultra really large wall of text.

3. Apparently mac rounds are powerful, but the fact is they wouldn’t take out star wars ships fast enough. (Refer to the shield section again.

4. Not just the jedi, but everything else (Probably covered in catface’s post, I can’t remember 40% of what I read in it.)

5. No, just no. Halo would not win for armoured land vehicles. With ghost’s, sniping the driver is far too easy. Scarab is a very big thing, but I played a Halo 3 mission involving one of those. A few shots from a rocket launcher, well ok, a FEW rocket launchers brought it down, allowing master chief to board it and blow it up/kill it (I didn’t complete that mission, I got lost inside and couldn’t do it.) Wraiths shots are easy to dodge, you can see them coming from miles away. Once you kill the fella in the turret (Which isn’t that hard) it’s easy enough to avoid. Revanents are basically wraiths, but combined with the exposed pilot problem of ghosts, and the passenger seat adds very little. The UNSC vehicles are rather bad, the mongoose is fairly useless apart from getting somewhere fast, the warthog turrets are ballistic weapons which would easily be deflected by star wars shields. (Refer to the weaponry and shield sections on catface’s post.) The only other thing ‘human’ vehicle I can think of is the scorpion tanks, which is blown up by a couple of rocket launcher shots, and a spartan could board them easily and blow them up with his fists. A stormtrooper or clone therefore could do it too.

6. I know nothing about the star wars atmosphere aircraft, but Halo uses the same ships for everything (banshees etc.), and they are fairly bad.

7. Banshees and seraphs are bad, covered before. Seraph’s shields are weak and a banshee can get took out by a sniper rifle. A few star destroyers could carry a lot of ships too, thought about that?

8. I know nothing about last resort weapons, so I’ll give you that one.

9. The size of their armies are minuscule compared to just the droid army. The star wars fellas weren’t intending to shield their ships from energy projectors with lightsabers, fair comparisons please. _ Also, they’re not as powerful as the star wars shields and weapons (Refer to catface’s post again, he explained a lot of things)

All in all: You don’t know enough about both sides to make a good argument for Halo. Sorry bro. Congrats though, you managed to make an argument without using the “FLOOD AND MASTER CHIEF ARE UNSTPBBLE!!!!!!!111” argument. Still, do some more research and try to come up with something better.

 
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clearly none of you are smart enough to argue so this is the Flood’s crippling weakness noone bothered to pretend existed.Space.Colonising Ships are to hard to make to be common space cruisers (COLONISING ring a bell?)the only thing they have to possibly be a starfighter are Birds who can’t even leave atmosphere,but since noone ever bothered to make that arguement it sounds like I’m saying FLOOD INVINCIBLE.They can’t lose on the ground,and can’t win in space.Its really sad that with the STAR part of Star Wars noone made that observation and you call yourselves fans

 
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Originally posted by Snipe27:
Originally posted by bgammax:
Originally posted by Snipe27:
Originally posted by bgammax:
Originally posted by urine420:
Originally posted by bgammax:

mayhaps making a point instead of trolling would help

Anyone who says mayhaps is an arsehole, and you’re dumb regardless.

oh boohoo fail troll fails

Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

My point was made… Almost twenty-five pages and a year ago.


your “points” were just time wasting ways to say don’t just say x wins.STARWARS INVINCIBLE


My GOD are you a hypocrite. Look at the damn megapost, hes explaining everything while your saying “Flood wins because there flood”


glad someone missed 8 different posts and every time I stated that the flood don’t need to develope a Gravemind in the Star Wars Galaxy,just proto-Graveminds(who are nowhere near as tough to make) and the 1 arguement me and Catface had.Just so you could jump to a conclusion.Still not the most ignored facts yet though.


Thanks for helping with the “Massive hypocrit” thing.


“The only gravemind that is vunlrable is a proto-gravemind”


“Flood will only use proto-graveminds”


My brain just hurts…


Originally posted by xxGameMasterxx:

@Captain_Catface Your numbers point is valid, though for those troops to be deployed in a ground battle, millions of troops on a battlefield would be really dense, and vehicles like scorpions, wraiths, banshees, rocket and gauss hogs could easily take out a lot of troops in one shot, thinning out their ranks for the UNSC/Covenant/Flood to push through. All the Halo forces would have to do would be fire a MAC round from space to disable said droid factories.
On the subject of the flood, jedi/sith wear no armor, and pores in the air would be a serious problem. The Forerunner robots were equipped with energy beams, some Sentinels being large enough to level entire cities with their weaponry, and the flood still pushed forward and continued to battle the forerunners. The flood could even reanimate dead bodies and turn them into combat forms or infection forms, so even if the covenant or UNSC already killed stormtroopers/rebels, they could still be infected, and the flood would gain their memories and weapons, so Halo would start to have equal footing in terms of weaponry in ground battles.
In space, the extreme number of covenant and UNSC ships could carry a very large amount of fighters, and the convenant could deploy phantom gunboats, each having heavy councussion energy weapons. The amount of sabres, banshees, and seraphs would overwhelm the star wars fighters. As I’ve said earlier, the UNSC’s orbital defense platforms’ super MACs could fire a 3000 ton slug at .5c, giving them an annihilating 10 teraton yield. Let me know if a star destroyer can handle that.
With all of this said, I’m betting on Halo to achieve victory


Valid point, but please do not look at the strengths of one side. Look at the strengths of both sides, and youll see most of halos stuff is nulified/reduced.

look moron your feet are far from your Brain,but do they need their own Brain?no.Its called nerves Gravemind is the brain Proto-Graveminds are the nerves.Understand or is your skull just too thick noone can spell it out for you.Also “don’t look at only one side’s strengths” while you completely ignore Halo’s.On another note Wraiths are the Halo equivilent of the Republic/Empire’s main tank.Isn’t it insanely easy to shoot the gunner out of those?

 
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I’ve already covered the Flood’s weaknesses on most/all fronts. Saying they can’t lose on the ground is a bit silly; seeing as if they’re not fighting biological enemies, they’re almost powerless.

Looking over other severe weaknesses, however; even the human empire was able to reprogram the flood to kill itself… Just another blaring weakness.

Calling anything a Halo/Star Wars equivalent (At least on a parallel basis) is quite shady. The best of Halo is roughly equivalent with the low-end of Star Wars.

 
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Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

I’ve already covered the Flood’s weaknesses on most/all fronts. Saying they can’t lose on the ground is a bit silly; seeing as if they’re not fighting biological enemies, they’re almost powerless.

Looking over other severe weaknesses, however; even the human empire was able to reprogram the flood to kill itself… Just another blaring weakness.

Calling anything a Halo/Star Wars equivalent (At least on a parallel basis) is quite shady. The best of Halo is roughly equivalent with the low-end of Star Wars.

need we go over them dealing with non-biological ground troups AGAIN.Also for whatever reason you never stated the Space point.

After they destroyed the Gravemind which made them revert to Feral instincts

annoying Tanks.Check.Nowhere near as effective without gunner.Check.Decently armored,but still very killable.Check

 
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The ‘standard tank’ of the Republic Army would be the AT-TE. Just over twice the size, six laser cannon turrets, and a mass driver; as compared to a plasma mortar and (dual plasma cannons or a heavier plasma turret depending on model); these being the weak Covenant ones.

 
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Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

The ‘standard tank’ of the Republic Army would be the AT-TE. Just over twice the size, six laser cannon turrets, and a mass driver; as compared to a plasma mortar and (dual plasma cannons or a heavier plasma turret depending on model); these being the weak Covenant ones.

alright then what is the Heavy command tank,cause as far as I am aware that’s the AT-TE
Edit: looked it up on Wookiepedia apparently they just bulked it up for Heavy AT-TE meaning I’m thinking of a light scout tank

 
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You’re thinking of the AT-ST; those obnoxious little walkers.

Or the AT-RCT; which is the variant with the turret. And yes. Those are weak as hell.

 
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Originally posted by bgammax:
Originally posted by Snipe27:
Originally posted by bgammax:
Originally posted by Snipe27:
Originally posted by bgammax:
Originally posted by urine420:
Originally posted by bgammax:

mayhaps making a point instead of trolling would help

Anyone who says mayhaps is an arsehole, and you’re dumb regardless.

oh boohoo fail troll fails

Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

My point was made… Almost twenty-five pages and a year ago.


your “points” were just time wasting ways to say don’t just say x wins.STARWARS INVINCIBLE


My GOD are you a hypocrite. Look at the damn megapost, hes explaining everything while your saying “Flood wins because there flood”


glad someone missed 8 different posts and every time I stated that the flood don’t need to develope a Gravemind in the Star Wars Galaxy,just proto-Graveminds(who are nowhere near as tough to make) and the 1 arguement me and Catface had.Just so you could jump to a conclusion.Still not the most ignored facts yet though.


Thanks for helping with the “Massive hypocrit” thing.


“The only gravemind that is vunlrable is a proto-gravemind”


“Flood will only use proto-graveminds”


My brain just hurts…


Originally posted by xxGameMasterxx:

@Captain_Catface Your numbers point is valid, though for those troops to be deployed in a ground battle, millions of troops on a battlefield would be really dense, and vehicles like scorpions, wraiths, banshees, rocket and gauss hogs could easily take out a lot of troops in one shot, thinning out their ranks for the UNSC/Covenant/Flood to push through. All the Halo forces would have to do would be fire a MAC round from space to disable said droid factories.
On the subject of the flood, jedi/sith wear no armor, and pores in the air would be a serious problem. The Forerunner robots were equipped with energy beams, some Sentinels being large enough to level entire cities with their weaponry, and the flood still pushed forward and continued to battle the forerunners. The flood could even reanimate dead bodies and turn them into combat forms or infection forms, so even if the covenant or UNSC already killed stormtroopers/rebels, they could still be infected, and the flood would gain their memories and weapons, so Halo would start to have equal footing in terms of weaponry in ground battles.
In space, the extreme number of covenant and UNSC ships could carry a very large amount of fighters, and the convenant could deploy phantom gunboats, each having heavy councussion energy weapons. The amount of sabres, banshees, and seraphs would overwhelm the star wars fighters. As I’ve said earlier, the UNSC’s orbital defense platforms’ super MACs could fire a 3000 ton slug at .5c, giving them an annihilating 10 teraton yield. Let me know if a star destroyer can handle that.
With all of this said, I’m betting on Halo to achieve victory


Valid point, but please do not look at the strengths of one side. Look at the strengths of both sides, and youll see most of halos stuff is nulified/reduced.


look moron your feet are far from your Brain,but do they need their own Brain?no.Its called nerves Gravemind is the brain Proto-Graveminds are the nerves.Understand or is your skull just too thick noone can spell it out for you.Also “don’t look at only one side’s strengths” while you completely ignore Halo’s.On another note Wraiths are the Halo equivilent of the Republic/Empire’s main tank.Isn’t it insanely easy to shoot the gunner out of those?

Really, insulting? Based on the rules off common sense, if someone has to insult in a argument it means they have lost as they have nothing else to stand on. Ergo, there is no further point in arguing with you. My feet don’t have brains, but if there cut off do they hurt like stepping on a million lego pieces? Yes.Also, flood can infect spaceships as seen in the halo games.

 
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Originally posted by bgammax:
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Originally posted by urine420:
Originally posted by bgammax:

mayhaps making a point instead of trolling would help

Anyone who says mayhaps is an arsehole, and you’re dumb regardless.

oh boohoo fail troll fails

Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

My point was made… Almost twenty-five pages and a year ago.


your “points” were just time wasting ways to say don’t just say x wins.STARWARS INVINCIBLE


My GOD are you a hypocrite. Look at the damn megapost, hes explaining everything while your saying “Flood wins because there flood”


glad someone missed 8 different posts and every time I stated that the flood don’t need to develope a Gravemind in the Star Wars Galaxy,just proto-Graveminds(who are nowhere near as tough to make) and the 1 arguement me and Catface had.Just so you could jump to a conclusion.Still not the most ignored facts yet though.


Thanks for helping with the “Massive hypocrit” thing.


“The only gravemind that is vunlrable is a proto-gravemind”


“Flood will only use proto-graveminds”


My brain just hurts…


Originally posted by xxGameMasterxx:

@Captain_Catface Your numbers point is valid, though for those troops to be deployed in a ground battle, millions of troops on a battlefield would be really dense, and vehicles like scorpions, wraiths, banshees, rocket and gauss hogs could easily take out a lot of troops in one shot, thinning out their ranks for the UNSC/Covenant/Flood to push through. All the Halo forces would have to do would be fire a MAC round from space to disable said droid factories.
On the subject of the flood, jedi/sith wear no armor, and pores in the air would be a serious problem. The Forerunner robots were equipped with energy beams, some Sentinels being large enough to level entire cities with their weaponry, and the flood still pushed forward and continued to battle the forerunners. The flood could even reanimate dead bodies and turn them into combat forms or infection forms, so even if the covenant or UNSC already killed stormtroopers/rebels, they could still be infected, and the flood would gain their memories and weapons, so Halo would start to have equal footing in terms of weaponry in ground battles.
In space, the extreme number of covenant and UNSC ships could carry a very large amount of fighters, and the convenant could deploy phantom gunboats, each having heavy councussion energy weapons. The amount of sabres, banshees, and seraphs would overwhelm the star wars fighters. As I’ve said earlier, the UNSC’s orbital defense platforms’ super MACs could fire a 3000 ton slug at .5c, giving them an annihilating 10 teraton yield. Let me know if a star destroyer can handle that.
With all of this said, I’m betting on Halo to achieve victory


Valid point, but please do not look at the strengths of one side. Look at the strengths of both sides, and youll see most of halos stuff is nulified/reduced.


look moron your feet are far from your Brain,but do they need their own Brain?no.Its called nerves Gravemind is the brain Proto-Graveminds are the nerves.Understand or is your skull just too thick noone can spell it out for you.Also “don’t look at only one side’s strengths” while you completely ignore Halo’s.On another note Wraiths are the Halo equivilent of the Republic/Empire’s main tank.Isn’t it insanely easy to shoot the gunner out of those?


Really, insulting? Based on the rules off common sense, if someone has to insult in a argument it means they have lost as they have nothing else to stand on. Ergo, there is no further point in arguing with you. My feet don’t have brains, but if there cut off do they hurt like stepping on a million lego pieces? Yes.Also, flood can infect spaceships as seen in the halo games.

yes killing Proto-Graveminds hurt the main one,just not much.and yes you are clearly done arguing as you are still arguing.If you want to admit defeat I’m fine with that though

Your arguements

  1. you’re a hypocrit
  2. you’re retarded
    at least I had an arguement to go with my insults
 
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Originally posted by bgammax:

clearly none of you are smart enough to argue so this is the Flood’s crippling weakness noone bothered to pretend existed.Space.Colonising Ships are to hard to make to be common space cruisers (COLONISING ring a bell?)the only thing they have to possibly be a starfighter are Birds who can’t even leave atmosphere,but since noone ever bothered to make that arguement it sounds like I’m saying FLOOD INVINCIBLE.They can’t lose on the ground,and can’t win in space.Its really sad that with the STAR part of Star Wars noone made that observation and you call yourselves fans

Wha? My brain hurts now.

 
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Originally posted by Snipe27:
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Originally posted by Snipe27:
Originally posted by bgammax:
Originally posted by urine420:
Originally posted by bgammax:

mayhaps making a point instead of trolling would help

Anyone who says mayhaps is an arsehole, and you’re dumb regardless.

oh boohoo fail troll fails

Originally posted by Captain_Catface:

My point was made… Almost twenty-five pages and a year ago.


your “points” were just time wasting ways to say don’t just say x wins.STARWARS INVINCIBLE


My GOD are you a hypocrite. Look at the damn megapost, hes explaining everything while your saying “Flood wins because there flood”


glad someone missed 8 different posts and every time I stated that the flood don’t need to develope a Gravemind in the Star Wars Galaxy,just proto-Graveminds(who are nowhere near as tough to make) and the 1 arguement me and Catface had.Just so you could jump to a conclusion.Still not the most ignored facts yet though.


Thanks for helping with the “Massive hypocrit” thing.


“The only gravemind that is vunlrable is a proto-gravemind”


“Flood will only use proto-graveminds”


My brain just hurts…


Originally posted by xxGameMasterxx:

@Captain_Catface Your numbers point is valid, though for those troops to be deployed in a ground battle, millions of troops on a battlefield would be really dense, and vehicles like scorpions, wraiths, banshees, rocket and gauss hogs could easily take out a lot of troops in one shot, thinning out their ranks for the UNSC/Covenant/Flood to push through. All the Halo forces would have to do would be fire a MAC round from space to disable said droid factories.
On the subject of the flood, jedi/sith wear no armor, and pores in the air would be a serious problem. The Forerunner robots were equipped with energy beams, some Sentinels being large enough to level entire cities with their weaponry, and the flood still pushed forward and continued to battle the forerunners. The flood could even reanimate dead bodies and turn them into combat forms or infection forms, so even if the covenant or UNSC already killed stormtroopers/rebels, they could still be infected, and the flood would gain their memories and weapons, so Halo would start to have equal footing in terms of weaponry in ground battles.
In space, the extreme number of covenant and UNSC ships could carry a very large amount of fighters, and the convenant could deploy phantom gunboats, each having heavy councussion energy weapons. The amount of sabres, banshees, and seraphs would overwhelm the star wars fighters. As I’ve said earlier, the UNSC’s orbital defense platforms’ super MACs could fire a 3000 ton slug at .5c, giving them an annihilating 10 teraton yield. Let me know if a star destroyer can handle that.
With all of this said, I’m betting on Halo to achieve victory


Valid point, but please do not look at the strengths of one side. Look at the strengths of both sides, and youll see most of halos stuff is nulified/reduced.


look moron your feet are far from your Brain,but do they need their own Brain?no.Its called nerves Gravemind is the brain Proto-Graveminds are the nerves.Understand or is your skull just too thick noone can spell it out for you.Also “don’t look at only one side’s strengths” while you completely ignore Halo’s.On another note Wraiths are the Halo equivilent of the Republic/Empire’s main tank.Isn’t it insanely easy to shoot the gunner out of those?


Really, insulting? Based on the rules off common sense, if someone has to insult in a argument it means they have lost as they have nothing else to stand on. Ergo, there is no further point in arguing with you. My feet don’t have brains, but if there cut off do they hurt like stepping on a million lego pieces? Yes.Also, flood can infect spaceships as seen in the halo games.


yes killing Proto-Graveminds hurt the main one,just not much.and yes you are clearly done arguing as you are still arguing.If you want to admit defeat I’m fine with that though


Your arguements



  1. you’re a hypocrit

  2. you’re retarded
    at least I had an arguement to go with my insults

When have i ever insulted you?

I have insulted your posts, but not you.

Also, if you think my only argument is your a hypocrite, you have not read any of my posts clearly.

I see no point in taking the sensible root and quitting because star wars has won and your just not wanting to admit it, as you have pulled the childish response of “If your quitting because i wont admit defeat it means i win!”. So, i will keep arguing if you really want to be that childish. However, unless you bring up a new point expect me to be not posting as often.