Is it Really Fair?

I can see the responses to this already. Nonetheless, inquiring minds want to know… How fair is it that a guild that does more than half of their FW teams’ kills can have the same percentage as the second place guild that has less than half of the leading guilds’ total? This needs to be fixed. The bonus percentage should be proportionate to the percentage of each guilds’ total kills. …Let the debate begin!

Originally posted by jrmcg:

I can see the responses to this already. Nonetheless, inquiring minds want to know… How fair is it that a guild that does more than half of their FW teams’ kills can have the same percentage as the second place guild that has less than half of the leading guilds’ total? This needs to fixed. The bonus percentage should be proportionate to the percentage of each guilds’ total kills. …Let the debate begin!

Good point. Guilds who do more work should get a better reward for themselves and let the lower guild sink but…the problem here is time. Many people don’t have as much time as each other so it’s hard to do something like that.

It shouldn’t be a “team” activity in the first place. You compete against everyone and the highest X guilds gets X bonus.

It’s plenty fair. It’s already a huge boost, especially on FW2. You can see by the score it isn’t really a competition over there, so it’s basically just grinding for exp at that point. If the scores were closer I could see raising the cap some to give incentive to add a little push each week, but with it being fairly consistant on who wins and gets the bonus, I don’t think more bonus from yet another source is really needed. I understand the point of “guilds who contribute the most should get the most back” argument, but honestly, when most of the bonus is during non-event exp, it doesn’t do too much extra good to add a few % during the time when limited few mist lots.

It’s great xp and coins. I think they are also doing FW for the drops.

Originally posted by bobby71983:

It shouldn’t be a “team” activity in the first place. You compete against everyone and the highest X guilds gets X bonus.

not a bad idea

it would be nice for those ppl doing 20 (WHN last week) get more then a 20% bonus while a guild that did 1 get a 21% bonus.

As is it fair who knows, but those are the rules and you just have to make the best out of it any way you can, and those who can get rewarded while those who cant dont get rewarded in that light it is fair.

Originally posted by cookiegod86:

Originally posted by jrmcg:

I can see the responses to this already. Nonetheless, inquiring minds want to know… How fair is it that a guild that does more than half of their FW teams’ kills can have the same percentage as the second place guild that has less than half of the leading guilds’ total? This needs to fixed. The bonus percentage should be proportionate to the percentage of each guilds’ total kills. …Let the debate begin!

Good point. Guilds who do more work should get a better reward for themselves and let the lower guild sink but…the problem here is time. Many people don’t have as much time as each other so it’s hard to do something like that.

Aren’t you on vacation in Hawaii?

Originally posted by mattyboy7we:

Originally posted by cookiegod86:

Originally posted by jrmcg:

I can see the responses to this already. Nonetheless, inquiring minds want to know… How fair is it that a guild that does more than half of their FW teams’ kills can have the same percentage as the second place guild that has less than half of the leading guilds’ total? This needs to fixed. The bonus percentage should be proportionate to the percentage of each guilds’ total kills. …Let the debate begin!

Good point. Guilds who do more work should get a better reward for themselves and let the lower guild sink but…the problem here is time. Many people don’t have as much time as each other so it’s hard to do something like that.

Aren’t you on vacation in Hawaii?

knocks on matty’s head Hotel computers have a 1 hour shift for people to use.

Originally posted by mrwiggs8:

It’s plenty fair. It’s already a huge boost, especially on FW2. You can see by the score it isn’t really a competition over there, so it’s basically just grinding for exp at that point. If the scores were closer I could see raising the cap some to give incentive to add a little push each week, but with it being fairly consistant on who wins and gets the bonus, I don’t think more bonus from yet another source is really needed. I understand the point of “guilds who contribute the most should get the most back” argument, but honestly, when most of the bonus is during non-event exp, it doesn’t do too much extra good to add a few % during the time when limited few mist lots.

i’m not talking about a bigger bonus for the team that kills the most, i’m talking about the teams that don’t, not getting the same size slice of the pie… it’s like teaching kids that “everyone wins” and giving them all awards or medals… it’s not how it works IRL and should not be how it works here either.

Originally posted by jrmcg:

Originally posted by mrwiggs8:

It’s plenty fair. It’s already a huge boost, especially on FW2. You can see by the score it isn’t really a competition over there, so it’s basically just grinding for exp at that point. If the scores were closer I could see raising the cap some to give incentive to add a little push each week, but with it being fairly consistant on who wins and gets the bonus, I don’t think more bonus from yet another source is really needed. I understand the point of “guilds who contribute the most should get the most back” argument, but honestly, when most of the bonus is during non-event exp, it doesn’t do too much extra good to add a few % during the time when limited few mist lots.

i’m not talking about a bigger bonus for the team that kills the most, i’m talking about the teams that don’t, not getting the same size slice of the pie… it’s like teaching kids that “everyone wins” and giving them all awards or medals… it’s not how it works IRL and should not be how it works here either.

But this is not real life… its “dream world.” Besides, this is a team effort. So you all win or you all lose. Why should this type of team effort be any different from how a guild itself works. Even in your own guild no one is going to argue that the top half of your guild contributes more than the bottom half, but im sure you would not agree that they deserve less of the total guild bonus because of that.

If a guild does enough FW to reach max bonus, I think they earned it. It’s not as easy for some as it is for others, so when other guilds reach it, I think they should receive that bonus, as well. For guilds that don’t reach the bonus cap from killing bosses, they receive less of a bonus than the others because they affected the outcome of the war less. It seems fair in that regard. I’d say for most guilds there’s almost an identical amount of effort used in obtaining that amount, if not, even more. If such is the case, would giving less bonus for more effort be fair?

Scoring more points gives more items, isn’t that rewarding enough ?

Speaking of bonus, i rather see the 20% win bonus lasting till end of the Faction Wars and not just for 3 days.

Originally posted by Ventress:

Speaking of bonus, i rather see the 20% win bonus lasting till end of the Faction Wars and not just for 3 days.

+1

Originally posted by thearenaquaker:

Originally posted by Ventress:

Speaking of bonus, i rather see the 20% win bonus lasting till end of the Faction Wars and not just for 3 days.

+1

Yea max bonus takes a shite ton of work from GDM at least to maintain, should last long enough for us to truely enjoy it, very few of us have much time to play during a weekday. Personally once monday hits i couldnt care less what our bonus is.

Originally posted by Ventress:

Speaking of bonus, i rather see the 20% win bonus lasting till end of the Faction Wars and not just for 3 days.

+1