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Night Actions

Night 1

racefan ~ kills devourer, gives ascetic to ocelot
tttttt ~ action towards racefan → S_98
Knoob ~ recruit racefan
coolo ~ roleblocks devourer
WiiPlayer ~ gives strong-willed to stone
Mystery ~ gives hated to tttttt
Taiboss ~ investigates myhome
reaper ~ kills Knoob
ocelot ~ serialkills S_98
devourer ~ protects Mystery
S_98 ~ make racefan speak Finnish
Vara ~ frames myhome

What happens:
0. myhome leaves town
1A. tttttt switches racefan and S_98
1B. coolo blocks devourer – gets info that the blocking was successful
1B. racefan’s ascetic blocks everyone targeting him – however, tttttt’s action will still be working
1D. Vara tries to frame myhome – gets info that she saw no one at myhome’s house
2. devourer tries to protect Mystery – gets info that devourer himself was roleblocked
3. Taiboss tries to investigate myhome – gets info that he saw no one at myhome’s house, no result
4. Knoob tries to recruit racefan – gets info that for some reason he instead recruited S_98
5. racefan kills devourer
5. reaper kills Knoob
5. ocelot kills S_98
6. S_98 tries to make racefan speak Finnish – is dead by this point but also would’ve performed the action on himself
7. ocelot receives ascetic from racefan
7. tttttt receives hated from Mystery
7. stone receives strong-willed from WiiPlayer

Ninja’s list

devourer359
devourer359
Knoob85687
myhome16
myhome16
Mysterymason
ocelot
racefan12
racefan12
racefan12
S_98
S_98
stone667
tttttt


Night 2

Woon ~ makes Vara speak Latin
Taiboss ~ investigates Vara
ocelot ~ gives ascetic to racefan
Vara ~ frames reaper
coolo ~ blocks gaminguru
tttttt ~ actions towards Vara → WiiPlayer
racefan ~ kills Jimbo

What happens:
0. racefan gets NK-immunity
0. SamsterSamster randomly receives hated from tttttt
0. Zzzip50 randomly receives strong-willed from the dead stone
1A. tttttt tries to switch Vara and WiiPlayer → WiiPlayer is dead, no effect
1B. coolo blocks gaminguru → gets info that blocking was successful
1D. Vara frames reaper765 → gets info that framing was successful
3. Taiboss investigates Vara → gets result: mafia
5. racefan kills Jimbo
6. Woon makes Vara speak Latin → gets info that it was successful
7. racefan receives ascetic from ocelot

Ninja’s list

gaminguru
Jimbo14
racefan12
reaper765
SamsterSamster
Vara
Vara
Vara
WiiPlayer113 (don’t ask me!)
Zzzip50


Night 3

Night 3

gamin ~ investigates reaper
myhome ~ leaves town
reaper ~ kills Woon
Woon ~ makes racefan speak Italian
Taiboss ~ investigates tttttt
racefan ~ kills Nimbus, gives ascetic to reaper
Kidude ~ investigates coolo
coolo ~ blocks kingzak

What happens:
0. racefan gets investigation-immunity
0. myhome leaves town
0. Ninja randomly receives hated from Samster
0. Mystery randomly received strong-willed from Kidude
1B. coolo blocks kingzak → gets info that blocking was successful
1B. racefan’s ascetic blocks everyone targeting him
3. Taiboss investigates tttttt → gets result: mafia
3. gamin investigates reaper → gets result: Elephant Vigilante
3. Kidude investigates coolo → gets result: manipulative
5. reaper kills Woon
5. racefan kills Nimbus
6. Woon tries to make racefan speak Italian → not only is dead, ascetic would’ve blocked him
7. racefan gives ascetic to reaper

Ninja’s list:

coolo2011
kingzak13
Mysterymason
N1NjA546
NimbusCloud26
racefan12
reaper765
reaper765
tttttt
Woon1957


Night 4

racefan ~ kills reaper
reaper ~ kills tttttt
Vara ~ frames coolo
coolo ~ blocks myhome
Ninja ~ sends hated to reaper
reaper ~ sends ascetic to Vara
Mystery ~ sends strong-willed randomly to reaper

What happens:
0. racefan gets NK-immunity
0. reaper randomly receives strong-willed from Mystery
1B. coolo blocks myhome successfully
1B. reaper’s ascetic blocks everything else except kills
1D. Vara frames coolo successfully
5. reaper kills tttttt
5. racefan kills reaper
7. reaper’s death causes the attacker (racefan) to get ascetic, hated and strong-willed

Ninja’s list:

coolo2011
myhome16
reaper765
reaper765
reaper765
tttttt
Vara


Night 5

I don’t have a list for these, but if I remember correctly, Vara framed Mystery, racefan tried to kill myhome and because it was an odd night, myhome was out of town, so that caused the first night without kills. coolo blocked Mystery.


Night 6

Vara framed Ninja and coolo blocked Samster. Kidude who turned into the mafia’s killer didn’t PM me anything, so no kill.


Night 7

Vara turned into the mafia killer and tried to kill gamin, but coolo blocked her. gamin used his second investigation on Vara.


Night 8

If night 8 had existed, only Vara, coolo and Ninja would’ve been online. coolo would’ve blocked Ninja (as the alphabetical list was finished the night before, he would’ve blocked the first person in the list that isn’t himself) and thus the only way the town could’ve survived would’ve been Vara missing the sending of the nightkill. I decided that it would’ve been far too unlikely and anyways I believe she would’ve PMed me.

 
avatar for kingzak13 kingzak13 14221 posts
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i knew vara was mafia
god damn you vara logic and confusion

anyway may i know what your next two games are so i know what i am missing out on

 
avatar for Bluji Bluji 6696 posts
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Best of the Bunch, a flash gaming competition.

Ytivitca III, a sequel to my CYOR (Choose Your Own Role) mafias.

 
avatar for Woon1957 Woon1957 2736 posts
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Can you roughly tell us(me) when you expect to release those games :D?

 
avatar for Bluji Bluji 6696 posts
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In about two weeks. I’m taking a little break from hosting FGs.

 
avatar for WiiPlayer113 WiiPlayer113 8104 posts
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This was fun, even though I died on day 2.

 
avatar for Knoob85687 Knoob85687 9867 posts
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[I facepalm’d so hard when Vara won. First, she lurked which was at odds with her normal behaviour. True, she gave an excuse, but this does not necessarily mean she was not Mafia. The fact she showed up in time to defend herself meant she practically admitted to active lurking.]

[Second, you’ll notice Faceran defended her, and he was a blatantly obvious Mafioso. (And then he died, revealing his role.) D1, he used the kills as an argument for lynching. Later, he conveniently forgot all about the swathes of kills because it wasn’t interfering with lynching.]

[Third, there was the small radio clue.]

[Fourth, you’ll notice that Vara voted simply for survival earlier on. She outright stated that she was voting for an innocent simply because of the ‘vote or die’ rule. That should never happen, especially when the Town is in such a precarious situation.]

[Fifth, Vara didn’t actually try to be coolheaded and argue with Gaming. She simply mocked him. That’s probably because he had solid evidence against her, and she felt she had to do something to convince people he was wrong, rather than simply denying it. I didn’t notice this before, and it’s pretty much just speculation, though.]

[Sixth… Well, look at this.]

(Also, you claim having a two-shot role, but you would still use a shot at somebody of whom you could barely find any scumtell at all, the single scumtell you found even being invalid? Tsk.)

[This screams scum to me. I’m not really sure why, but I think it’s because she seems to be lording over the lack of scumtells she left. ‘I should have left scumtells, but you only found one that was invalid.’ There’s also the fact that she knows fine well that she’s hard to read, meaning that if anything, the investigate should have been used earlier. If scumtells can be found, then there’s no reason to waste an investigate.]

[Lastly, her argument for Gaminguru’s role not being what he claimed makes no sense to me.]

“Hmmm… I should think of some variant of a cop to defeat her argument. I could go with a role cop, but that is so close to a common cop… Ah! I know it, I’ll make it two-shot! It’s balanced and they’ll probably buy that!” ~What probably went through gaminguru’s mind

[I don’t get what logic this is following. It seems illogical to me that he would needlessly complicate his role like that, if he was lying.]

Bluji adding a shot limit to a cop, where it’s not imposed on other cops or even the jailkeeper (Jimbo14, investigate&roleblock combined into a single action), is entirely in violation with the consistency found in the currently known roles. I don’t imagine your so-claimed role existing.

[If certain roles are as powerful as that, then why would others need to be as powerful? Surely that’d make victory easy for the Town. Roles need not be balanced. I can’t imagine what consistency Vara could be talking about.]

[Really, Vara might as well swung a flaming beacon up in the air, marked ‘I am Mafia!’. But noooooooo, Reaper had to kill me.]

 
avatar for myhome16 myhome16 3932 posts
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Originally posted by myhome16:
Originally posted by racefan12:

Maybe you should come up with your own ideas, instead of relying on someone else.

You’re right.
I vote Vara because if she were not mafia, she would be running analises on people.

I submit my ending arguement.

 
avatar for racefan12 racefan12 5472 posts
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Wow, I did not think we were going to pull that out.

Vara is incredible. Every accusation, she has an answer. Every time it looks like she’s painted into a box, she finds a way out. I’m just glad I was on her side—because if I wasn’t, I wouldn’t have won.

Congrats to Bluji for another great game, full of twists and unpredictability. Congrats to the players who brought the game all the way down to the wire and made this game quite possibly the most active and in-depth game I’ve seen on Kong.

In the end, I wish I had been able to be more active, but I’m still glad that I was able to participate as much as I could.

 
avatar for N1NjA546 N1NjA546 1059 posts
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Once again, my quest to become an intelligent and skilled mafia player is delayed by my inherent retardation. Perhaps one day, I will finally achieve my goal. But not today friends, not today… </mournfulness>
I’m currently playing amazingly bad, picking up scumtells where there aren’t any and not seeing those that are there. Hopefully I’ll get better at mafias soon. My ineptitude is beginning to irritate me.

 
avatar for Bluji Bluji 6696 posts
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Mod Notes

Yeah… This is my own section where I can tell you what I rofled on. First, night 1 in its majority. racefan would have blocked everyone targeting him (due to ascetic), but tttttt’s ward powers started working before the role modifier activated and that made every action targeting race to instead target S_98! In addition, Sninetiane would have made himself talk Finnish instead of racefan talking Finnish, but he died before he got to use his action.

Also, the whole cult got terminated on night 1. I would’ve really wanted to see what would’ve happened if the cult had survived to, let’s say, day 5. That could’ve messed up your game really bad because you would’ve gotten Role / Cultists on half the lynches.

Then, night 4. The night reaper got killed. He happened to possess all three role modifiers that night and I decided to be fair and give them all to his killer, racefan.

Night 5. The first night without a nightkill. I had already written and even posted (facepalm) the ‘day 6 begins’ post, and racefan decides to PM me two minutes, yes two minutes before the deadline to try and kill myhome, who happened to be out of town. Tough luck.

Night 7. Vara tried to kill gamin only to be blocked by coolo. Oh lawl, third kill-less night in a row.

And in the end, gamin, you would have had the proof for your role in the first page. Look.

Informative roles ~ 3 to 4

There were three to four informative roles and only two had been killed by day 8. This means gamin could’ve just been a real role cop. But no, Ninja decided to take Vara’s bait and vote for gamin, causing the town to lose. (No, I’m not saying that Ninja caused the loss, but if he had actually checked the information already available, this would have confirmed gamin’s role.)


Originally posted by racefan12:

Congrats to Bluji for another great game, full of twists and unpredictability. Congrats to the players who brought the game all the way down to the wire and made this game quite possibly the most active and in-depth game I’ve seen on Kong.

Thanks for this. It means a lot to me that you guys actually enjoyed this game.

 
avatar for RaceBandit RaceBandit 1613 posts
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I definitely enjoyed reading over it, but I kinda hate myself for not dropping out after my computer took a dump on me.

 
avatar for racefan12 racefan12 5472 posts
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If I remember correctly, that night 4 kill of reaper was also pretty late—once I found out I got all the role modifiers, I figured it might have been better if I didn’t kill him at all, but it worked out in the end.

But yeah, when you have about a fifth of the free time that you’re used to, you do crazy things like beat deadlines by two minutes.

 
avatar for hamuka hamuka 3413 posts
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So, as an outsider, I think I’ll say some words on this. I was reading this since day 5, and must say that I was really, really sad that I didn’t participate. I liked this mafia. I hope that I can sign on Bluji’s next game. :)

PS: I remembered this one:

Originally posted by Mysterymason:

Viscious Aspirations Really Agitate

The initials spell Vara. Hrm..

After this message, instead of voting Vara, everyone voted Mystery thanks to Ninja’s FoS and vote. I think if that bandwagon didn’t happen, maybe the town would’ve won. But, who knows?

 
avatar for Knoob85687 Knoob85687 9867 posts
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Originally posted by hamuka:

So, as an outsider, I think I’ll say some words on this. I was reading this since day 5, and must say that I was really, really sad that I didn’t participate. I liked this mafia. I hope that I can sign on Bluji’s next game. :)

PS: I remembered this one:

Originally posted by Mysterymason:

Viscious Aspirations Really Agitate

The initials spell Vara. Hrm..

After this message, instead of voting Vara, everyone voted Mystery thanks to Ninja’s FoS and vote. I think if that bandwagon didn’t happen, maybe the town would’ve won. But, who knows?

[If Mystery didn’t die, Faceran wouldn’t have and it would have been likely he would have won.]

 
avatar for Bluji Bluji 6696 posts
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But then again, I thought about the fact how clearly obvious it is that if race and Vara don’t die early on in a mafia that has nights, they must be mafiosos! (Or maybe not. Oh well.)

hamuka, if you want some preview regarding my next mafia, here are the links to the prequels:

ytivitcA

ytivitcA eroM (ytivitcA II)

And err… it’s a nice mafia, because you can wish what role you want to get. :D

 
avatar for Knoob85687 Knoob85687 9867 posts
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But then again, I thought about the fact how clearly obvious it is that if race and Vara don’t die early on in a mafia that has nights, they must be mafiosos! (Or maybe not. Oh well.)

[That too, but I had other things up my sleeve.]

 
avatar for Woon1957 Woon1957 2736 posts
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Originally posted by Bluji:

But then again, I thought about the fact how clearly obvious it is that if race and Vara don’t die early on in a mafia that has nights, they must be mafiosos! (Or maybe not. Oh well.)

hamuka, if you want some preview regarding my next mafia, here are the links to the prequels:

ytivitcA

ytivitcA eroM (ytivitcA II)

And err… it’s a nice mafia, because you can wish what role you want to get. :D

You had better not make a game when I am asleep.
Or else.

 
avatar for S_98 S_98 3244 posts
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Originally posted by Woon1957:
Originally posted by Bluji:

But then again, I thought about the fact how clearly obvious it is that if race and Vara don’t die early on in a mafia that has nights, they must be mafiosos! (Or maybe not. Oh well.)

hamuka, if you want some preview regarding my next mafia, here are the links to the prequels:

ytivitcA

ytivitcA eroM (ytivitcA II)

And err… it’s a nice mafia, because you can wish what role you want to get. :D

You had better not make a game when I am asleep.
Or else.

Yes! Do that! Make a game while-
Oh, darn.
Presign!

 
avatar for Bluji Bluji 6696 posts
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Originally posted by Bluji:

In about two weeks. I’m taking a little break from hosting FGs.

lrn2read

 
avatar for RaceBandit RaceBandit 1613 posts
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Does this hiatus invalidate any presigns?
(I probably didn’t need to do that. Sorry.)

 
avatar for S_98 S_98 3244 posts
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Originally posted by Bluji:
Originally posted by Bluji:

In about two weeks. I’m taking a little break from hosting FGs.

lrn2read

I was about to ask this question…

Originally posted by RaceBandit:

Does this hiatus invalidate any presigns?
(I probably didn’t need to do that. Sorry.)


But, yeah. Probably not now, but any presign to any Bluji game is good.
WHAT IF BLU MAKES ONE OF HIS BLOCKBUSTER GAMES while GMT+8 is having midnight?

 
avatar for Bluji Bluji 6696 posts
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Well, make a shout on mi’ profile and list your presigns there.

 
avatar for racefan12 racefan12 5472 posts
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Originally posted by Bluji:

But then again, I thought about the fact how clearly obvious it is that if race and Vara don’t die early on in a mafia that has nights, they must be mafiosos! (Or maybe not. Oh well.)

But then the mafia won’t kill us just to get people to think that we’re mafia so that they’ll lynch us instead…

WHAT IF BLU MAKES ONE OF HIS BLOCKBUSTER GAMES while GMT+8 is having midnight?

That’ll be… 10 AM here—well, it’ll work if it’s a weekend.

(Also, Samster did Blockbusters, not Bluji.)

 
avatar for CowFriend CowFriend 13342 posts
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can i sign up plz