If you are trying to consider my points then for your benefit I will just try and show you what I said and why I said it, I don’t know how you think it’s filler but hopefully this post should include clarification for this.
From the lack of many deaths I am assuming to bring the amount of mafias in yesterday’s lynch to between 0/1 meaning I want to say me, helltank, devourer and bluji are all guilty of nothing but friendly fire, yet I still have my doubts.
I thought the mafia were holding back on trying to kill too many people since that way we would fight amongst ourselves, this was drawn from the fact that it was suspicious that not many people died last night and the few kills that did happen we had some confessions for, devourer admitted that he personal killed Maist. This means I assumed mafia were holding back so that this dissension would form in the ranks, meaning we would lynch each other. I was making this assumption based on the fact that I thought mafia wouldn’t go in on a day one lynch for fear of suspicion. Not sure about Bluji and Woon entirely since they came in so late and provided no evidence, but based on the fact that they did come in so late and provide so little evidence that they could not have been any mafia in their right mind, since that sort of thing gets picked up on almost always. Based on this, I would like to make the assumption, for now, that helltank bluji and woon are also town.
Another point that was expanded from this point is:
Which mafia would vote on someone to change one townie dying to a VI dying. Which mafia would vote at all to save townies? Which mafia would vote when they didn’t need to. I guess
If we can assume that Jask isn’t very helpful at all, why would the mafia try and solidify a lynch on him with two more bandwagon votes? It makes no sense. Either way that lynch could have gone only a townie would have died
Mafia had no reason to change the lynch or vote.
No mafia players were in that bandwagon.
I believe this to be the truth, but I don’t know for sure about helltank, after all, he may have just been doing this:
Scums generally holds a large advantage in the area of defending another player. As a scum, since you yourself is a scum, you have no need to worry about defending another player, since he will guarantee to flip town. This is a tactic used to gain innocence with no expense.
Next I went on to explain why mafia would have killed RaceBandit, because when we knew both lynch targets were town, that means people would be more liable to suspect people in the bandwaggon against RaceBandit, it was a point that I am adamant is the truth.
I have a few FoSes to throw out there, since I like to always have someone at least on the go:
Coolo, DragonArcherz and CF for coasting, which is kind of like posting but not having opinions and trying to stay on the sidelines I guess. I feel like it’s a sort of inactive/active lurking style of thing.
Zzzip for active lurking, one of his only posts was simply in response to a vote, and for the rest of the mafia he has been either passive or lurky. It is considered big if people respond only to being voted, but since it’s too early in the mafia to say that’s really solid evidence then I’ll just say that I’ve got my eyes on him. Watch it sonny jim!
Also, this is in answer to your statement:
I still don’t know who you think are scums.
See? If you actually read my post then you would have seen this. I think I have a very viable point on Zzzip though, he hasn’t done anything but lurk and only posted when prodded by racebandit. I reckon he is just lurking in the background.
Obviously your FoS was removed because straight afterwards you suddenly sprung into action, but the other 3 still stand.
Anyway, I don’t see how this was filler. I think it was an insightful observation and I think it near enough proves those three as innocents of the mafia, and if you don’t believe me, lynch me. When I show up town, don’t lynch any of the three that I mentioned because I am pretty sure that I am right about them being town.
Already explained this. Just because I’m disagreeing with you doesn’t mean I’m being arrogant.
I know this.
The whole point is, you didn’t understand what I actually meant to try and do a bit.
I couldn’t give two flying fucks whether I survive this mafia, I wasn’t defending my life, I was defending my arguement only! And I am arguing my point because I am convinced it is correct. Those three are townies.
You don’t really get what I am trying to get at do you?
If we can say those three are innocents, that means we can narrow down the search for mafia.
And for this reason, I will vote for Zzzip
He is not inactive, but he’s lurking, and I still think the fact that he only really reacted to being voted during day 1, and after the vote went away he started lurking again.
Finally, let me ask you this: Is me saying something about what happened and trying to actually do something in the way of evidence worse than all the rotters who are just sitting there and decaying in the inactive or lurk, trying to prove nothing, and only voting on bandwagons for little to no reason? There’s no way that’s true.
And I don’t see the reason you voted me during day 2 anyway.
Also, the way you worded that post is strange. Sounds like you’re really deliberate about the idea of mafia and trying to sound like you’re not one yourself.
How the hell is this any better than what I have done? It’s vague as hell of a reason to vote for something and it’s less concrete than my own FoS.
Your specific mentioning of scums’ contrived plans are off, like you exactly know what they’re doing and trying to drive suspicion off of yourself.
You spout this as reasoning to vote me and then question my own argument? Surely the fact that I am thinking about the mafia’s tactics means I’m trying to work out who it is, not the fact that I am one and I’m “trying to drive suspicion off of yourself”
Most of your posts are claiming all my posts are as worthless as dirt, well, what the hell is that? I call hypocrite.
I had no suspicion on me during day 1, therefore, why the hell would I try to drive suspicion off of myself before it even appeared? You basically said, right there in that quote, that by trying to contribute to discussion I was actively trying to not be lynched for evidence that hadn’t happened yet, using some stuff that doesn’t actually at any point claim that I was trying to assay suspicion in the first place.
And you call my point “contrived”? Yet again I’m gonna say hypocrite. Your reasoning here actually doesn’t mean I’m mafia at all, and if it tries to, it’s just pure speculation. Whereas my argument was based off of hard facts during day 1 and night 1, your whole vote was based purely off of a single post, not even taking into account prior evidence.
That’s all I need to say. If you are going to vote for me, at least provide a reason that means I am a mafia this time rather than something that means nothing at all, and I hope you do lynch me, because it will show everyone that you were wrong, and it will mean that the words that I have just spoken will have came from a proven, dead, but proven townie.
Like I said beforehand, I was simply writing whatever came into my head, that was kind of a mistake on my part. I should have assembled all my thoughts in a Sync.in doc before I posted it and then assembled it into a more coherent post. Now I have fully explained it in full, there should be no problems.