Doesnt anyone find this suspicious? page 5

pescado:*This plan of yours has several flaws. Firstly, ordinary cameras produce ordinary photos, not videos. Secondly, I don’t have a scanner. Thirdly, that picture is not of me. It’s a popular sport on my site to TRY to take pictures of me, but the usual result is that people take pictures of random lookalikes of me. However, I am perfectly willing to provide screenshots, since that comes with ’doze. There is, however, no facility for capturing a video of the screen in Windoze, and the CFbox is stripped down for maximum performance. *

i am quite sure cameras nowadays have the ability to record videos too…. if u havent noticed, nowadays u can upload ur images str8 from ur camera.

fine pescado, eevn if there is only 100 CF players taht waste stam, i dont see how u are able to make the news more often than all of them combined. are u saying u are able to make 100 ppl’s worth of fights in a day?

pescado: “Amazingly enough, random events do, in fact, by definition, occur due to chance. The spacing of random, independent events, therefore, is also “due to chance”. There is no “how” or “why”. As a random event, “it happens due to chance” is, in fact, the accurate and completely true explanation. There is no reason to a “random” event, they are RANDOM. You may as well be asking “Why do critters miss 10 times in a row at 90%” or “why do 3 vials fail so 20 times in a row”. Or rather, you WOULD, had you ever actually BOUGHT any such vials, which your lack of achievement indicates you CLEARLY HAVE NOT. The fact of the matter is that there are only two ways you can spin this: Either you are a lying sockpuppet, or you are a noob who really has no idea how to play this game since someone walked you through it, giving you your money and samples to start with. You never earned those things…so you have no idea how the game really works or what it takes to do it. The less charitable, but probably more plausible, explanation is that you are a liar and a scammer, devoid of all credibility. Which is it? Either you’re a noob, or you’re a sockpuppet. You’ve denied both of these things, and yet you have to be one of them.*

well lets look at ur 15 misses when theres a 90% hit, tthat means a 10% chacnce to miss. now take 0.1 (for 10%) and put it to an exponent of 15. so itll look like 0.1^15. so that would be 0.1×10^-15 or 0.00000000000001% chance of occurance. likewise for a 3 star vial to fail 30 times in a row, thats a chance of 1.048576x^10-14 chance of that occuring or 0.0000000000001048576% chance of occuring are those numbers good enough for you?

pescado “you are a noob who really has no idea how to play this game since someone walked you through it, giving you your money and samples to start with. You never earned those things…so you have no idea how the game really works or what it takes to do it. The less charitable, but probably more plausible, explanation is that you are a liar and a scammer, devoid of all credibility. Which is it? Either you’re a noob, or you’re a sockpuppet. You’ve denied both of these things, and yet you have to be one of them. "

wel i know almost the amount u do with foriegn traits. i can do a detailed run down of foriegn traits and i can tell u HOW one can make a top 10 critter. i can perfectly set up a critter.

“Do you? I see no proof of this. Show me the video of you wasting stamina on your critters. Because you don’t have a single achievement pertaining to stamina burning. You have TWO TRADING ACHIEVEMENTS, which readily explain how you got your money and samples. You have apparently done NOTHING to indicate you actually USE any stamina, or even buy test tubes for breeding! "

look at the level of my critter…. i dont htink a critter can hit level 35 without wasting stam…. if i dont buy test tubes how can i breed new critters? if im so noob how can i give rough estimates on how likely a foriegn trait will pass.

pescado – I didn’t. I talked to Serp and it turns it wasn’t his mantis we hit after all. All supermantii look the same, anyway. Someone else did it, wasn’t us.

well u did admit to doing it…

Originally posted by PescadoJM:

Oh…that guy looks familiar. Was this, by any chance, a mantis you forgot to assign skills to, perhaps after using a reset? Because if it was, I recall a mantis around that level that we farmed. If so, yeah, you were being killed by level 1 moths. And wolves. And raptors. And basically everything we could throw at it for the free XP. How many fights did it win while you were out?

u even knew that it didnt have its skills set up… wat do u think i am… obviously u had to attack it in order to know that it didnt have its skills set up. u even said so urself. dont deny it.

pescado – Or, you know, you could just be a drooling idiot, inept spammer, and transparent sockpuppet, seeing as the act of using proper spelling seems to involve far too much mental effort for you to manage without trying.

no shit man. ur not worth my effort to speak in perfect english to. well haha i dont see anyone laughing at ur insult. i can show u how and u can calculate percetanges. i can show u hard calculations rather tham ur str8 up theory shit that u clearly cannot support. perfec english doesnt tell u shit in computers. there are perfectly well known scientists who post peer reviewed articles with a bunhc of mistakes. u dont see anyone doubting them because of their english.

pescado – *I’m not sure how you expect me to “explain” a statement which is factually untrue, since I was NOT the only person in the featured fights: Others were as well. Perhaps you are conflating all members of my synd into “me”. We’ve already been over this, anyway: Appearance in featured fights is RANDOM, meaning there is no “WHY”. Given that it is a random occurrence, a player who triggers more random checks, meaning, fights more, will appear more. Simple as that. I appear more because I am grinding higher-level, lower-tier critters that can fight more frequently, and will appear more frequently because they are of higher level. *

last time i chked they were all t3s appearing in the news.

pescado – *Yes, because I would try to crack my OWN password and fail. You are an idiot, right? Do you really have no idea how the Internet works at ALL? Because if you did, you’d realize shit like this happens at random ALL THE TIME. There’s no evidence to suggest a PLAYER was even involved, it was obviously some random Internet twerp. *

well pescado, i dont see u hacking anopther game u dont give a shit about. why would a random guy all of the sudden, come in and attempt to hack the accts of the ppl accusing you of botting. how the fuck does that make sense.

Originally posted by lungjiao: But lets look at the hack attempt above, the hack attempt was directed to the players who have been purusing this topic previously. isnt that surprising?

pescado – "Yes, because I would try to crack my OWN password and fail. You are an idiot, right? Do you really have no idea how the Internet works at ALL? Because if you did, you’d realize shit like this happens at random ALL THE TIME. There’s no evidence to suggest a PLAYER was even involved, it was obviously some random Internet twerp.

i never said u were hacking ur own acct, i said the PEOPLE PURSUING THIS TOPIC, dont understand because ur brain is similar to an antiquark size and fucntion? it means that the accoutns that were targeted were those accusing u of botting. dunno what an quark is because ur brain so goddamn small? lemme explain it to u, its a anti elementry particle, that makes up matter, like most matter, its made up of a atom, it makes up protons and neutrons. the only difference between a quark and an antiquark is size and spin. anti quarks are way smaller and have an oppostie spin of a quark. the reason why its an anti quark is because to create anti matter, matter which has potential to destroy. get my implications pescado? dont understand? well lemme explain it to you.since ur brain is like an antiquark, it does completely the opposite of what a normal functioning brain should do. hence ur chronic insomnia and insensive drooling ( i would like to add the fact the my bulldog can manage to keep the drool in his mouth. i dont know why you cant. i wouldnt be surprise u u were defecating in ur seat every 5 minutes due to the lack impilmentation of the idea of potty training in ur anti quark aize brain, which can be percieved as something that serves no useful function other than to occupy space ) . i dont think an electron microscope is strong enough for someone to see ur anti quark sized brain. bitch. dont insult me with ur 12yr old language. obviously i can make more sophisiticated insults with the levelof education ive recieved compared to u, u high skool drop out.

srry i was too generous when i said high skool, im thinking elementry since ur airthmetic skills are not up to par with a regular high school drop out.

also i would like to add that im im a transparent sock. lookin at your eyes, i see a transparent image of where ur brain sould be.

Darn these answers just keep getting longer and longer. Imma read all this later….

PES IS STILL GUILTY!!! :DDDDD

The only thing I could understand out of that mangled pile of rubbish sounded like “BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH”. So, FYI, I’m not avoiding any question, I just can’t be bothered to try to sort out that mangled pile of nonsense. Let me know when you can say something that is actually intelligible.

Originally posted by PescadoJM:

The only thing I could understand out of that mangled pile of rubbish sounded like “BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH”. So, FYI, I’m not avoiding any question, I just can’t be bothered to try to sort out that mangled pile of nonsense. Let me know when you can say something that is actually intelligible.

well if u ask me, quantum mechanics isnt nonsense. if it was nonsense, albert einstein would not be famous with his equation E=mc^2 which is used to caluclate the energy in atoms.

just because that anti quark sized brain cannot comprehend the content and intellecutal capability i have, does not mean that it is rubbish. it seems to me, such a brain cannot function properly as to the letters become a jumble of nonsense due to ur incapability of diagnosing the meaning of a word or in turn, what a word is. it seems to me that the only thing ur brain can process is: the word blah blah blah, how NOT stop the flow of drool coming out of my mouth, how to give dodging answers directed to me and best of all, how to deficate in me seat every 5 minutes.

it seems to me u dont have an intelligible come back. thus, decided to wave it off as ‘rubbish’

this is how ur brain proccesses the information: “Pescado take a video of how u are using the multi tabs”

this is how ur brain pervices the information : what did he ask me? whats pescado? pescado…? that sounds like what i named that brown stain in my pants. mabey if i just drool a bit more, make a stupid face and nod, mabey he’ll think i answered his question.

hey pescado i recall earlier wher eu said u have a dildo attached to ur mouse to let it click for you. why would u have a dildo in the first place? my best bet is that u are so imconpetent (better word impotent?) that u cannot satisfy ur wife. thus, her need for a dildo.
hey pescado, i forgot to mention that there are up quarks and down quarks, i think ur brain is similar to a down quark, reasoning? i think it might explain ur down syndrome more effectively.

again, you have said nothing about the questions ive posted.

I don’t see any questions, only a mangled mass of broken quotes and misspelled gibberish. If you want to ask a question, ask it comprehensibly. And I’m not doing reruns, so they’d better be NEW questions I haven’t already addressed.

Lung:no shit man. ur not worth my effort to speak in perfect english to

You go on raving about your higher intelligence and that you can make up more knowledgeable insults, but you can’t even take the small amount of time needed to use the grammatical and language skills to write what you want to say correctly. I’m reading through these comments to get a standpoint on the situation, your messages are a lot harder to make out then pescado’s. Not because of the words you are using, but because you can’t type. The whole reason you’re doing this argument is to accuse pesc of cheating, hence forth good spelling and grammar gives you a better impression. Edgebee has posted here, therefore they are aware of this thread. If you make your comments easier to read, and make yourself look better. Then it’s a dam good plus. Don’t be lazy. It’s not an excuse.

For one, pesc’s insults are based from information you have given out, information that I have seen and verified. While you are comparing pescado to a mentally challenged person. If you WERE the intelligible person you make yourself out to be, then you wouldn’t be lowering yourself to his level and insulting him back. Instead, you should have stayed at a patient, defensive standpoint and continue to put out information and FACTS to help prove your case.

Lately, I see you’ve gotten much more…aggressive with your arguments. And in some cases you haven’t made your new comments relevant to your old. You made an insult that pescado needed a dildo to pleasure his wife, he never said he HAD dildo in the first place he said it as an example to the speed of the clicking. Or something along the lines of that. Secondly, you have already talked of suspicion and that pescado’s wife is in fact himself, but now you speak of her as if she was indeed another person.

Keep your information relevant, and your insults to a minimum. This thread is getting messier and messier with you two simply bickering 80% of the time and putting out relevant information to the topic 20% of the time.
(As for my earlier event of straying from the topic. I was simply making a conversation while you were away, keeping the thread alive.)

Originally posted by hilotaka:

Lung:no shit man. ur not worth my effort to speak in perfect english to

If you WERE the intelligible person you make yourself out to be, then you wouldn’t be lowering yourself to his level and insulting him back. Instead, you should have stayed at a patient, defensive standpoint and continue to put out information and FACTS to help prove your case.

If he were ACTUALLY the intelligent person he made himself out to be, this discussion would be OVER, since he would have posted his points in an intelligible manner, whereupon I would have dissected and rebutted them point by point. As it stands, it’s a challenge just to FIND what his points are. The thing is? He doesn’t have any “information” other than the easily refuted points. All he can harp upon is the frequency with which we appear in the news, which I have already explained. His failure to grasp the basic concept of “probability” is what causes him to repeatedly haul that same tired point out and flog it repeatedly. Although to be fair, people generally do have an extremely poor understanding of probabilistic mechanics. Then again, people are also generally morons, and I’m pretty sure there is an extremely strong correlation between these two groups.

Originally posted by hilotaka:

Keep your information relevant, and your insults to a minimum. This thread is getting messier and messier with you two simply bickering 80% of the time and putting out relevant information to the topic 20% of the time.

Meh, all the information got beaten to death ages ago. Bickering is all that has been left for some time. And hey, nothing wrong with a good bicker.

But you wanna know what else is suspicious? Go compare his writing style with the writings of the original xaznblood. For someone who is ostensibly a separate person, he sure has a talent for emulating xaznblood’s style of linguistic mutilation. The fact that he is a sockpuppet, not to mention a scammer, explains a lot, really.

Originally posted by PescadoJM:

Originally posted by hilotaka:

Lung:no shit man. ur not worth my effort to speak in perfect english to

If you WERE the intelligible person you make yourself out to be, then you wouldn’t be lowering yourself to his level and insulting him back. Instead, you should have stayed at a patient, defensive standpoint and continue to put out information and FACTS to help prove your case.

If he were ACTUALLY the intelligent person he made himself out to be, this discussion would be OVER, since he would have posted his points in an intelligible manner, whereupon I would have dissected and rebutted them point by point. As it stands, it’s a challenge just to FIND what his points are. The thing is? He doesn’t have any “information” other than the easily refuted points. All he can harp upon is the frequency with which we appear in the news, which I have already explained. His failure to grasp the basic concept of “probability” is what causes him to repeatedly haul that same tired point out and flog it repeatedly. Although to be fair, people generally do have an extremely poor understanding of probabilistic mechanics. Then again, people are also generally morons, and I’m pretty sure there is an extremely strong correlation between these two groups.

Originally posted by hilotaka:

Keep your information relevant, and your insults to a minimum. This thread is getting messier and messier with you two simply bickering 80% of the time and putting out relevant information to the topic 20% of the time.

Meh, all the information got beaten to death ages ago. Bickering is all that has been left for some time. And hey, nothing wrong with a good bicker.

But you wanna know what else is suspicious? Go compare his writing style with the writings of the original xaznblood. For someone who is ostensibly a separate person, he sure has a talent for emulating xaznblood’s style of linguistic mutilation. The fact that he is a sockpuppet, not to mention a scammer, explains a lot, really.

pescado, xazn doesnt even play on kong. and u said that edgebee chat didnt work for you right? how would u know how xazn talks like if u cant get into edgebee chat?

you make a lot of claims pescado, but you dont have evidence to support it. period.

you say im xazn? prove it.
you say u can do that 8-30 client tab to manipulate ur ELo system? prove it.
has anyone ever been able to replicate that? prove it.

you dont have proof that there is no 5 hr interval on the feat fights. i provided proof. however u denied the 5hr interval. NO proof provided.
u said it wasnt ur fault for deranking serp12’s mantis and that another person admitted to it? prove it.

u say alotta stuff but u cant prove any of it

theres a difference between probabilistic mechanincs and what actually happens. one person cannot do the amount of fights of 100 CF players combined.

who is this argument swaying towards? the person providing all the proofs or the person whose all talk and no proof. bottom line is, pescado, proofs are what makes the arguement strong. as we can all see, you have yet to provide any proof. u make a lot of comments, all which u have failed to prove. no screenshots, no back up evidence.

lets have a summary of the arugment so far:

1) how did u make the feat fight in a 90 min interval?

your answer: you waste stamina more than other people and you said there is not 5 ish hr interval. (wheres ur proof. u made a claim. now prove it. one may ask, how do you prove that? i want you to screenshot 2 regular player making the news in a 90 min interval)

2) you didnt derank serp12’s mantis.

your answer: someone else did it (u admit it was you who did it in the thread. then you claimed that another player did it. wheres the proof of another play admitting to it? if i recall correctly, u were quite specific on which critters were attacking with and the amount of time.) i dont recall u broadcasting it to everyone that it was another person’s fault for deranking serp12’s mantis (forum or chat wise). in fact, you provided a quite detailed account of what happened to sperp12’s mantis (why its so ‘attackable’) and yet u refuse to admit that you’re the one attacking it?

Originally posted by PescadoJM:

Oh…that guy looks familiar. Was this, by any chance, a mantis you forgot to assign skills to, perhaps after using a reset? Because if it was, I recall a mantis around that level that we farmed. If so, yeah, you were being killed by level 1 moths. And wolves. And raptors. And basically everything we could throw at it for the free XP. How many fights did it win while you were out?

i remember that you said all super combo mantis look the same? well i dont recall seeing multiple mantises with the name Razor Blade. nor do i see super combo mantises ranked 665k. i would also like to point out, it is impossible to derank a mantis from rank 300-400 in the span of 11 days unless someone was hardcore targetting it. thats where your Elo system comes into play. you can manipulate the ranking of your critters so that they can attack serp12’s mantis. normal level 1 moths, wolfs, raptors cannot see a mantis thats ranked 300-400. i would like to point out that level one critters, ranked 20k cannot see a critter thats ranked 665k. Therefore, how did u manage to find a mantis thats rank 300 when a new level one critters are ranked 20k. Elo system is the answer.

i would like to add that fact that other players could not have attacked serp’s mantis till ranked 665k. firstly, i doubt a new player with a starter critter will attack a super combo mantis multiple times. mantis is a t4 critter. i doubt a starter player would attack somethign with a power gap that big even IF there is no skills assigned to that mantis, t4s start off with more hp and pps than a t1 critter. in addition, an advanced player may have come across serp’s mantis at rank 300. but if anyone has noticed, you cannot attack the same critter 9 times in a row with the same critter at that rank. after 2-3 fights, the list WILL change and u can no longer find the critter you have been farming. that is the reason why at lower ranks, you cannot find the same critter to attack more than 2 times in a row. moreover, most people’s critters are not the same level nor rank, so i doubt that they will find serp’s mantis to attack with every critter they have.

bottom line is that your arguement is not agreeing with the facts provided. what have u got to say for yourself pescado?

no more bickering. i stop, u stop. i have not made an insult in this post, i expect you to do the same. answer my questions, no deviation from the topic. ive provided analysis of the facts provided.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

pescado, xazn doesnt even play on kong. and u said that edgebee chat didnt work for you right? how would u know how xazn talks like if u cant get into edgebee chat?

1. Who said I can’t get into the Edgebee chat? I can, I simply choose not to bother.
2. Just look at his posts in the Edgebee forums. He mutilates language exactly like YOU.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

you make a lot of claims pescado, but you dont have evidence to support it. period.

No, I don’t. YOU make claims. I merely refute your claims by citing counterexamples. MY claim is that you shooped the traits image, are running a scam, and are most likely xaznblood. I notice you have avoided all of these other points.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

you say im xazn? prove it.

I don’t actually have to. Being xaznblood isn’t a crime. Although personally, I think it should be. The evidence speaks for itself, though: You share an IP, you mutilate the language exactly like he does, you cite him as your supporting example in your scam, and you parrot all of his positions.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

you say u can do that 8-30 client tab to manipulate ur ELo system? prove it.

What sort of example do you want? I can provide any screenshot you wish. I’m not sure what you expect to see, though. Multitabbing looks just like any other browser and Elos are invisible values.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

has anyone ever been able to replicate that? prove it.

Replicate what? Manipulations of critter ranks? People do it all the time. Usually not in an orderly, purposeful manner, but people try to boost their own critter ranks all the time.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

you dont have proof that there is no 5 hr interval on the feat fights. i provided proof. however u denied the 5hr interval. NO proof provided.

I don’t need to provide proof. This claim is visibly and manifestly false if you even LOOK at the news: They are NOT 5 hours apart.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

u said it wasnt ur fault for deranking serp12’s mantis and that another person admitted to it? prove it.

As you can see in the thread, I never actually claimed we did. In fact, I asked if that WAS the mantis we happened to attack. Do you have any idea how many mantii are named Razor-something?

Originally posted by lungjiao:

theres a difference between probabilistic mechanincs and what actually happens. one person cannot do the amount of fights of 100 CF players combined.

You’ve clearly never met Fishboner. Yes, one person can indeed do the amount of fights of 100 CF players combined.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

who is this argument swaying towards? the person providing all the proofs or the person whose all talk and no proof. bottom line is, pescado, proofs are what makes the arguement strong. as we can all see, you have yet to provide any proof. u make a lot of comments, all which u have failed to prove. no screenshots, no back up evidence.

That is not, in fact, how it works: You are the one accusing, it is your obligation to provide the proofs. I merely have to refute all of your claims. Since each and every claim you have made is trivially explainable, there is nothing to prove. It is logically impossible to prove a negative.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

1) how did u make the feat fight in a 90 min interval?

Push quickfight. Spam drinks. Or just get lucky. What exactly are you trying to prove by this? This argument goes absolutely nowhere, since all it proves is that I was apparently active over a 90 minute interval.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

your answer: you waste stamina more than other people and you said there is not 5 ish hr interval. (wheres ur proof. u made a claim. now prove it. one may ask, how do you prove that? i want you to screenshot 2 regular player making the news in a 90 min interval)

Fine. Find someone who wants to spam a kajillion 6packs and we can easily replicate the results. I’m out. Making news only means fighting a lot. There are many ways someone can fight a lot.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

2) you didnt derank serp12’s mantis.

your answer: someone else did it (u admit it was you who did it in the thread.

Wrong. I never said that. In fact, I asked, “Did we do that?”, because we pummelled another mantis, which may or may not have been serp’s, and when serp responded, it turns out that it was not his. So if that wasn’t the one we did, then someone else did it.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

2) you didnt derank serp12’s mantis.

then you claimed that another player did it. wheres the proof of another play admitting to it? if i recall correctly, u were quite specific on which critters were attacking with and the amount of time.) i dont recall u broadcasting it to everyone that it was another person’s fault for deranking serp12’s mantis (forum or chat wise). in fact, you provided a quite detailed account of what happened to sperp12’s mantis

No, I provided a detailed account of what happened to A mantis, and asked if that was Serp’s mantis. Serp stated that his mantis did not match the mantis in the story, meaning it was not Serp’s mantis. Your own quote clearly indicates I was asking a QUESTION, not claiming credit. But it is no surprise that your skills at reading comprehension match your other linguistic skills.

Originally posted by lungjiao:

well lets look at ur 15 misses when theres a 90% hit, tthat means a 10% chacnce to miss. now take 0.1 (for 10%) and put it to an exponent of 15. so itll look like 0.1^15. so that would be 0.1×10^-15 or 0.00000000000001% chance of occurance.

First things first, what if we suppose that Pescado burns all of his stamina at once on all T1 critters every 90 minutes(this is not apparently how it works, but for the sake of argument, say it is). If we continue to suppose that the chance of 12 T1 critters blowing all their stamina in the coliseum in one go nets the Pescado a 10% chance of showing up as a featured fight. What are the chances of him showing up 15 times in a row, every 90 minutes? By your math it is highly improbable, in fact a 0.00000000000001% chance. You keep asking Pescado to explain why his fights are featured so often, but I would just like to point out that even a 0.00000000000001% is not equal to a 0% chance. Just thought that bears mentioning. Further:

Originally posted by lungjiao:

you say im xazn? prove it.
you say u can do that 8-30 client tab to manipulate ur ELo system? prove it.
has anyone ever been able to replicate that? prove it.

I just also wanted to point out that the first “prove it” asks Pescado to prove an allegation he made against you. The next two “prove it”‘s ask him to disprove your allegations. In the interest of fairness you really should keep to either, “Guilty until proven innocent” or “Innocent until proven guilty.” You can’t use one for yourself and another for anyone else. That is just not terribly fair.

Originally posted by Thepico:

Originally posted by lungjiao:

well lets look at ur 15 misses when theres a 90% hit, tthat means a 10% chacnce to miss. now take 0.1 (for 10%) and put it to an exponent of 15. so itll look like 0.1^15. so that would be 0.1×10^-15 or 0.00000000000001% chance of occurance.

First things first, what if we suppose that Pescado burns all of his stamina at once on all T1 critters every 90 minutes(this is not apparently how it works, but for the sake of argument, say it is). If we continue to suppose that the chance of 12 T1 critters blowing all their stamina in the coliseum in one go nets the Pescado a 10% chance of showing up as a featured fight. What are the chances of him showing up 15 times in a row, every 90 minutes? By your math it is highly improbable, in fact a 0.00000000000001% chance. You keep asking Pescado to explain why his fights are featured so often, but I would just like to point out that even a 0.00000000000001% is not equal to a 0% chance. Just thought that bears mentioning. Further:

Originally posted by lungjiao:

you say im xazn? prove it.
you say u can do that 8-30 client tab to manipulate ur ELo system? prove it.
has anyone ever been able to replicate that? prove it.

I just also wanted to point out that the first “prove it” asks Pescado to prove an allegation he made against you. The next two “prove it”‘s ask him to disprove your allegations. In the interest of fairness you really should keep to either, “Guilty until proven innocent” or “Innocent until proven guilty.” You can’t use one for yourself and another for anyone else. That is just not terribly fair.

would you like to prove to me why 1/infinity does not equal to 0? if you are successful, you’ve just proved every mathmetician, engineers, physicist in this world wrong.

to calculate the probability of events occuring we use the fomula P1 x P2 x … x Pn or in short, P^n. dont believe me? google it. the name of that formula is the general multiplication rule for statistics, characterize by the forumla, P(AB) = P(A) x P(B).

if you prove that that is false, then you’ve proved every profession job that uses statistics incorrect.

the thing is, missing 15 times in a row is nearly impossible. winning the lottery is a 1 to 10 million chance. but the chance of missing 15 times with a 90% hit rate is less than 1 in a hundred trillion which is nearly impossible.

again, youve made a claim where u said serp stated his mantis did not match the story. from what ive seen in the post, i did not see a comment where serp specfically said “pescado, it wasnt ur fault .”

well people from the same clique do tend to do things similarly. that includes how we type talk and write.

well since u are willing to proive a screenshot, i would like you to to provide a screenshot of serp12 saying that you were completely unrelated in the deranking of his mantis.

if you didnt derank serp’s mantis then who did? it cant have fallen 665 000 ranks by itself. there are very few of the people who understand how Elo works on CF. you are one of them and u seem to be pretty successful at it.

if you read my previous post, i said 5ish hrs. all the feat fights are roughly 5 hrs apart. but according to u, if theres no time limit, why arent CF players making the news every 5 minutes?

and no i havent seen much mantises named Razor -…

so pescado, you said u pummeled another mantis, that means you have horribly deranked another mantis? either way, you’ve still deranked a mantis. care to provide a screenshot of the other mantis you’ve been deranking and its rank?

Yes yes, sure, I suppose I’ll take on “every mathematician, engineer, and physicist” and prove them wrong. Infinity is not a number, it’s more of a concept. If you use infinity as the outer limit for a sigma(that squiggly looking backward E Greek letter) for 1/x then the result approaches zero. It is, however, not zero.

I feel I should mention that the percentages used there were completely arbitrary and do not result from any sort of actual probabilities necessarily in the game. I was illustrating a point saying that “non-zero probability” means “some chance, no matter how small.” If you feel that at a certain point you can say there is “no chance” if the number is close enough to zero, more power to you. I prefer to think that within an infinite timeline any non-zero probability will be actualized.

P.S. The second part of my post there asks why Pescado must defend his case to you while he must prove his case against you. Shouldn’t you both need to either prove or defend your cases?

P.P.S. In regards to the title of this topic: No, I don’t find it suspicious, and if I did, someone cheating would not impact my enjoyment of the game. Why is it such a big deal to you?

Originally posted by Thepico:

P.P.S. In regards to the title of this topic: No, I don’t find it suspicious, and if I did, someone cheating would not impact my enjoyment of the game. Why is it such a big deal to you?

because gameplay is not fair once someone begins to bot

i agree that 1/inifinity is a concept, but everyone does treat it as a zero. similarly the number 1 consists of 0.999999999999999repeated (9with the line ontop) going onto inifinty, but everyone says 1 not 0.9 repeated.

my point is, the probability of such calculations are indefinitely small it can be considered as a 0. consider the law of electro static forces, 2 objects across the room will exert an electro negative force on each on (due to protons and electrons) this force is attractive. the force is calculated with the formila Fn = (Kq1q1)/r^2 where q= 1.60×10^-19C, the charge of an elementry particle (a really small number) where k is a constant to the power of negative 16. if u multply numbers that small together and divide it by a large number, it will create an infinetely small number which approaches 0. this explains why if u leave 2 objects sitting across the room with no outside force, they will NEVER come to contact. thus, emphazing the concept of zero

it is true that something with the probability of 1×10^-10000000 will occur, hence the creation of this world, but consider how long it took for tthis world to be create. billions for years. again, also emphasizing that is ur realitically, unlikely that a 0.000000000000000000001% of an event occuring WILL occur in your lifetime.

linking back to the feat fights. it is VERY unlikely that pescado can make 2 fights in a row and 2 fights without a 5ish hr interval.

We seem to be at an impasse, then. I, of course, think my view is superior because it lacks the messy rounding you seem to advocate. You, I assume, feel my view is inferior because it easier and more practical to treat 0.99999….9 as one. Again, however, neither you nor I know what the probability of Pescado appearing in the featured fights is. Pescado himself seems to have an idea, but that is immaterial. The probability I used was merely a fabrication to illustrate a point.

If, however, as Pescado has said, it is to be expected that a person with a full stable uses all available stamina and none is ‘wasted’ to appear in the featured fights once or twice a day, then Pescado showing up four or five times(ie: five hour intervals) is not terribly out of the ordinary. It would be unlikely, but much more likely than the 0.000000000000000000001% event we have bandied about.

Originally posted by Thepico:

We seem to be at an impasse, then. I, of course, think my view is superior because it lacks the messy rounding you seem to advocate. You, I assume, feel my view is inferior because it easier and more practical to treat 0.99999….9 as one. Again, however, neither you nor I know what the probability of Pescado appearing in the featured fights is. Pescado himself seems to have an idea, but that is immaterial. The probability I used was merely a fabrication to illustrate a point.

If, however, as Pescado has said, it is to be expected that a person with a full stable uses all available stamina and none is ‘wasted’ to appear in the featured fights once or twice a day, then Pescado showing up four or five times(ie: five hour intervals) is not terribly out of the ordinary. It would be unlikely, but much more likely than the 0.000000000000000000001% event we have bandied about.

i think you are excluding the fact that there are about 100 other CF players and many whom also have a 12 stable. i myself have a 12 stable going but you rarely see me in the news.

but what are the chances that pescado will make 5 feat fights in a day, whereas, CF players over a year have rarely made the feat fights more than 2-5 times in their whole CF career. and yet pescado manages to make as many feat fights in one day?

and also, pescado blames the 90 min interval b/w fights on chance and chance alone. as u can see from the links i have provided every feat fight has a approx. 5 hr interval in bteween but pescado has managed to make 2 feat fights in a 90 minute interval. i dont think pescado has provdied an adequite explantion for this phenomenom. there are many screenshots of the news. and all of them about a 4-5hr intveral in between and yet pescado somehow manages to make 2 feat fights in a 90 min interval? and he says this is the occuance of chance. i believe if there isnt a 5 hr interval in between each fight the other 100 cf player will be making the news every 5 minutes at the rate of the amount of critters they have.

thats a completely valid arguement, i do not see how it is due to chance. im assuming CF system has placed a rough 5 hr interval between each fight to avoid the overrun of feat fights in the news. if you go on now and look at the times between each feat fightm you will conclude that they are spaced out with 4-5 hrs in between. if making a feat fight is based on chance with no time interval, how come you dont see many feat fights where the time interval is less than 3 hrs apart.

i would like to point out i do not view ur perspective as inferior. both our argument have merits and demerits. your demerit is that u assume that everything will occur no matter the probability. however, such events may take years to actually occur. probility is based on randomness and i dont see anything random wiht pescado make 4-5 feat fights in a day.

thats like saying, i won the 24million dollar lottery 5 times in my life time without cheating.
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Originally posted by lungjiao:

Originally posted by Thepico:

P.P.S. In regards to the title of this topic: No, I don’t find it suspicious, and if I did, someone cheating would not impact my enjoyment of the game. Why is it such a big deal to you?

because gameplay is not fair once someone begins to bot

i agree that 1/inifinity is a concept, but everyone does treat it as a zero. similarly the number 1 consists of 0.999999999999999repeated (9with the line ontop) going onto inifinty, but everyone says 1 not 0.9 repeated.

my point is, the probability of such calculations are indefinitely small it can be considered as a 0. consider the law of electro static forces, 2 objects across the room will exert an electro negative force on each on (due to protons and electrons) this force is attractive. the force is calculated with the formila Fn = (Kq1q1)/r^2 where q= 1.60×10^-19C, the charge of an elementry particle (a really small number) where k is a constant to the power of negative 16. if u multply numbers that small together and divide it by a large number, it will create an infinetely small number which approaches 0. this explains why if u leave 2 objects sitting across the room with no outside force, they will NEVER come to contact. thus, emphazing the concept of zero

it is true that something with the probability of 1×10^-10000000 will occur, hence the creation of this world, but consider how long it took for tthis world to be create. billions for years. again, also emphasizing that is ur realitically, unlikely that a 0.000000000000000000001% of an event occuring WILL occur in your lifetime.

linking back to the feat fights. it is VERY unlikely that pescado can make 2 fights in a row and 2 fights without a 5ish hr interval.

sigh

You act as if you really think those 100 “playing” people are doing what pesc is doing. If they were, you are correct, there is an enormously small chance of pesc getting into the fights so often.

BUT. You calculate and calculate but you have NO variables. Let’s say this. It’s early in the day. There are 100 players combined out of all the sites CF is hosted on.

Out of 100 players. 17 are only doing safari, they either need samples or they are questing.
12 people are only there for chatting. 6 people checked in at work to see their auctions, they quickly try to rebid on their auctions before they get caught. They have no time for wasting stam. 20 people are new players, are new and don’t have a clue as to what they
are doing.

So far we have 55 people.

Out of those 20 new players, 8 of them quit after only using the critters stamina and finding out they have to actually wait before doing it again. They don’t know what the soda’s do, and never will. The other 12 either head on to safari or split the stamina between both.

So far out of 55 people very few have spent any stamina at all.

Now let’s say…there are 30 well established players on. 6 of them are breeding, so they only have 0-8 stalls to use stamina. All of them saved at least 4 stalls. They waste stamina, breed, and leave. 14 of them have 7-12 stalls to waste stamina. Varying from T4’s to T1’s. They waste stamina and leave. They don’t come back till later that night. 10 of them are doing nothing, possibly checking up on auctions for splicers, they already used their stamina previously and are waiting for regeneration.

So far we have 85 players. Now.

The rest of the 15 include the hardcore gamers such as pesc, fishboner, and others I’m not to sure of their playing time…These people play all day, using up all of their stamina when possible, in the coliseum.(though I think fishboner uses his stamina in the safari actually)
Let’s say that takes up 5.
The other 10. Are the players who look at the game, skip the tutorial, and waste one or two stamina before quitting.

If you think about it like this. It’s more of pesc versus what? 20-30 people? Who are barely using the amount of stamina he is in the coliseum before they LEAVE?

Out of these 100 people. Pesc has a very high chance of making the news compared to the calculations you put out.

I’m tired of all your calculations when you don’t realize, not everyone really plays the dam game like you believe they are. Pesc has quite the high chance of making the news. You say you’ve only made the news a few times in how long you have played(1 year going from what you said on the first page). Well guess what!? You fight in the SAFARI. Of COURSE you can’t get in the news with a SAFARI fight. You have repeated and repeated that you don’t fight in the coliseum since you use the safari to get the healing items and food for your critter. Hence the reason you don’t have the achievements for the coliseum. Or so it should be, but you’ve also said you have indeed made the news 3-5 times. If you DID do that, isn’t that MORE of an achievement since you have done that WITHOUT getting ANY of the coliseum badges????

I myself have only gotten in the news that many time and I have the majority of coliseum badges I can get. How do you get that amount of news appearances? Same. Damn. Reason.

Oh..while I’m on the topic of how long you’ve played, and the achievements you should have earned. I randomly selected all of my safari’s, or I just went questing. I never payed attention and by the time I played for around 4 months, switching between doing the coliseum and safari’s the whole time. I got the 200 achievement for a safari. I didn’t mean to, i didn’t try to. But i did. It really is odd you haven’t gotten any of those achievements yet.

I’m not on pesc’s side. It’s just that I’m tired of the “evidence” you try and use. You are trying to pin “probability” against pesc, but I can do the same thing to you. You also try to pin “dodging questions” on pesc, while i can do the same thing to you. The only thing worthwile was the ELO system, and pesc already explained that. Put 2 and 2 together and pesc could easily make a system like that. And others to! Pesc isn’t the only computer expert out there!

Lung, you are just at the most…HORRIBLE position to be trying to accuse someone else of breaking the rules you know. Why…just take a look at you sample thread. I also pointed out some very good points there.

Originally posted by lungjiao:
linking back to the feat fights. it is VERY unlikely that pescado can make 2 fights in a row and 2 fights without a 5ish hr interval.

You know, you’re right about one thing: It IS very unlikely. That would be why it has only happened once…or has it? I mean, HAS it actually happened? We’ve been accepting on faith that it has actually happened, and trying to explain it based on that. But I realized, “Faith in a known liar and con artist would be very misplaced”. So I went back and looked at your actual EVIDENCE that it happened…and guess what? IT DIDN’T! Your entire claim is predicated on the unlikelyhood of an event happening that DID NOT ACTUALLY HAPPEN. This extremely unlikely event that you have chronicled in the image as happening, is not, in fact, happening in the image. This is like submitting a Bigfoot photo as proof for the existence of Bigfoot, only your photo manifestly does not contain Bigfoot, but is merely a shot of a forest devoid of any feet, big or otherwise.

All…of…these…posts…are…too…long…Attention…span…too…short…Bored…Lost…caring…

pescado, how would you explain the deranking of serp’s mantis? i dont see any proof where serp or any other person said it was his fault.

Originally posted by Corapterex:

All…of…these…posts…are…too…long…Attention…span…too…short…Bored…Lost…caring…

Yeah…basically. Not to mention they seem to be going in circles now. O.o

Unless Pes can offer up a better reason other than being up 24 hours a day, we’re stuck. Well, kind of. Until I stop being lazy anyway. XD

i tryed reading all this but its just to much

i was at auction today and i came across miranasis’ maxed raptor. although i did not bid on the critter personally ( i dont want to help out any enemy player), i asked the person who got the critter for a screenshot of the raptor at coliseum. take a look at it.

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/4756/raptorfrommiranasi3.jpg

pescado, how is it possible to have a level 50 maxed raptor, at rank 775k? every fight that you make WILL increase your rank. i see that u won 1300 something times. it is not possible to be rank 775k at level 50 and a 1300 – 150 win/lose ratio.