Doesnt anyone find this suspicious? page 7

Pescado is a nub hacker so plz ignore him.

Originally posted by billybobjoebob9:

Reported Pesc for botting, using scripts, and generally just being an ass. :D

Who the hell are you anyway? I can only imagine this is some kind of random one-line throwaway joke, judging from the rest of your posts.

Well Pesc, Judging from the rest of your posts, you’re a stuck up brat who is too much of a smart ass to listen to anyone else’s opinion. Why the hell do you think I reported you? It is incredibly obvious that you’re hacking. Anyone with half a brain would have seen that from the news. Of course, asses like you try to deny it forever, even after everyone agrees and knows that you’re a hacker. Personally, I don’t give half a damn that your’re hacking, but your being an jerk annoys me.

I’ve never heard of you, or even met you before, so you must be yet another sockpuppet of someone, which is no doubt why you show up out of nowhere and begin parrotting your owner’s views despite not having a single new argument. That does seem to be the fashionable thing as of late, just like that “lungjiao” clown that got exposed as a sock of xaznblood. Your account details say you barely play the game, yet you show up and start flinging random unsupported accusations at people? So yeah, who the heck are you supposed to be? Obviously you’re somebody’s puppet: You don’t have a single independent thought to express, yet somehow you know everything even though you haven’t been a part of anything.

Yes, I haven’t been on CF for a while. Not a part of the game? I used to be in Legacy when it was the #7 syndicate overall. I’m not a sockpuppet. I have no independent thoughts? WTF. Take political parties as an example, Republicans have likeminded ideas. So do the democrats. Does that make them sockpuppets? Hell, No. Thats like saying: Well, since we all think CF is a fun game we must be sockpuppets. I also already said that I don’t give a damn that you hack. Apparently everyone else thinks that from what they have all said. I care about you being an ass. Your last post was so stupid and so badly thought out it just solidifies my original view. Of course, instead of responding to my last post in a civil manner, you responded with more stupid insults. Fail. Epic, Epic Fail.

Originally posted by billybobjoebob9:

Yes, I haven’t been on CF for a while. Not a part of the game? I used to be in Legacy when it was the #7 syndicate overall. I’m not a sockpuppet. I have no independent thoughts? WTF. Take political parties as an example, Republicans have likeminded ideas. So do the democrats. Does that make them sockpuppets? Hell, No. Thats like saying: Well, since we all think CF is a fun game we must be sockpuppets. I also already said that I don’t give a damn that you hack. Apparently everyone else thinks that from what they have all said. I care about you being an ass. Your last post was so stupid and so badly thought out it just solidifies my original view. Of course, instead of responding to my last post in a civil manner, you responded with more stupid insults. Fail. Epic, Epic Fail.

Rank #7 syndicate plus used to be isn’t that great. You just need a group of people with slightly better then average critters to get into the top ten nowadays.

Besides that~ wth report HERE? I mean, if you haven’t noticed our kongregate high score lists have been hacked for months. I’m sure it’s been reported, but nothings been done about it :/

and even if does somehow get banned or suspended here, he can just play on edgebee. The whole agruement IS to get him banned off edgebee(more of proving pesc has indeed used bots, scripts, or any cheats of the sort. But a punishment is what would happen if we do successfully prove the case.), or at least make edgebee do something worth a dam. I agree with holy, 2 days of suspension is not a good punishment at all :/

Originally posted by billybobjoebob9:

Of course, instead of responding to my last post in a civil manner, you responded with more stupid insults. Fail. Epic, Epic Fail.

Let’s see. You show up out of nowhere and don’t actually post an argument that can be responded to, merely launch into an unsupported personal attack. Exactly what kind of response did you want or expect?

Alright, let’s start with a few screenshots then.

You admit having a duty roster with people playing in shifts. I see absolutely no theoretical hypotheses in those pictures.

And then you deny those exact things:

I consent to your first point, since I believe that the rules are not clear enough, but I believe point number two has some issues.

So how do you expect everyone to believe nothing is going on when you keep changing your story?

You can clearly see from the context in the first screenshot that it is a hypothetical scenario proposed as a counter-explanation to your claims, indicating that your position simply does not overcome reasonable doubt. This should be obvious from context, but, as a study shows, Internet messages are apparently misinterpreted 90% of the time. And yes, although that was a hypothetical scenario, we actually do have a duty roster. It does not do what you think it does, although it does serve a similar purpose, namely, that someone is on watch. Unfortunately, because people are very lazy, it ends up being my shift way too often.

Next question.

Can you explain how you lock onto a fail critter in ‘darkspace’, share that lock with other players, and then repeatedly fight it?

Don’t worry if it’s complicated, try me.

Locating a critter in Darkspace initially is a chance thing: You probe Darkspace by doing Lock On By Level (LOBL), fighting without a target selected, with a “probe critter”. When the probe critter loses the fight, the cloaked critter is forced into visibility. At this point, it can be locked onto by other critters belonging to anyone, although most will not notice it because they are not specifically looking for a specific critter. Before anyone attacks it, all party members must lock onto the critter, getting it to appear in their targets. Coordination is critical. Use an IRC is recommended. Once a lock is acquired, the locked critter can continue to attack the critter until the session ends (timeout, maintenance, relog, etc.) by copying the tab before attacking, so that the target is always locked on in at least one tab. It helps to stop the tab to reduce processor load, as each critter to lock on requires its own tab for each set of separate targets you want to lock on to.

Next question.

Originally posted by PescadoJM:

Originally posted by billybobjoebob9:

Of course, instead of responding to my last post in a civil manner, you responded with more stupid insults. Fail. Epic, Epic Fail.

Let’s see. You show up out of nowhere and don’t actually post an argument that can be responded to, merely launch into an unsupported personal attack. Exactly what kind of response did you want or expect?

LOL

Well, that was certainly an insightful and information-laden commentary.

It’s hilarious how you think you’re BS arguments mean anything.

Originally posted by fishboner1234:

Might be because he lied his ass off about a sample with 10 different foreign traits. Even if he had a leg to stand on its all bs now.

nah i got held up with exams. just because i managed to put more foriegns on a critter than u can does not mean i am lying nor cheating

so how has this topic progressed? anyone wanna summarize? i see pescado has degraded himself somemore while i was skimming through this topic. insults are not a legitimate answer to a quesiton directed towards you.

and alos, isnt it against edgebee’s rules that multiple people sharing one acct?

Originally posted by lungjiao:

Originally posted by fishboner1234:

Might be because he lied his ass off about a sample with 10 different foreign traits. Even if he had a leg to stand on its all bs now.

nah i got held up with exams. just because i managed to put more foriegns on a critter than u can does not mean i am lying nor cheating

so how has this topic progressed? anyone wanna summarize? i see pescado has degraded himself somemore while i was skimming through this topic. insults are not a legitimate answer to a quesiton directed towards you.

and alos, isnt it against edgebee’s rules that multiple people sharing one acct?

Let me see screenshots. this time include the apps picture skills and traits because i can bullshit

I just have to post an outsider-view on BirdSpirit’s screenshots:

Since I don’t know what you were actually talking about, based on those comments I presume Pescado is talking about his Synd, not his account?
In those screenshots it doesn’t show anywhere, that Pescado is talking about multiple people playing on his account.
So the multiple people are all operating one account, but each one their own?

P.S. I actually don’t know why I stick my fingers into this once again… and why those two paragraphs look almost :)

Originally posted by fishboner1234:

Let me see screenshots. this time include the apps picture skills and traits because i can bullshit

He showed us his screenshots…they were clearly and obviously shooped, and you could see the shoop lines, and they weren’t due to being a cut-and-paste composite of being different of the UI not normally seen together like your skill charts are. Of course, he’s going to have a tough time faking the skills at the same time, given that he doesn’t know what the indicators are, because the cake is a lie…

Originally posted by Eki79:

I just have to post an outsider-view on BirdSpirit’s screenshots:

Since I don’t know what you were actually talking about, based on those comments I presume Pescado is talking about his Synd, not his account?
In those screenshots it doesn’t show anywhere, that Pescado is talking about multiple people playing on his account.
So the multiple people are all operating one account, but each one their own?

P.S. I actually don’t know why I stick my fingers into this once again… and why those two paragraphs look almost :)

We actually do mention account quite a few times in there. Pes said that “Instead of one person operating multiple alts, we have multiple people operating one.” He admitted to account sharing basically. :P

Originally posted by BirdSpirit:

We actually do mention account quite a few times in there. Pes said that “Instead of one person operating multiple alts, we have multiple people operating one.” He admitted to account sharing basically. :P

Which falls afoul of the points mentioned above.
1. Not illegal.
2. Hypothetical scenario as a counter-argument to your initial complaint.
3. Considering YOU do it, you hardly have a leg to stand on there. If you want to insinuate that what someone might be doing is wrong, it should not be something YOU do.
4. You will note that I said “operating”, not “sharing”. This distinction is actually important and highly relevant. A telephone operator does not share your phone.

In any case, I answered your question. Either you ask a new question, or you go back to accusing me of being a liar, and we resume hurling insults.

Allow me to preface this by saying I find most of this to be ridiculous, but entertaining to read. Allow me to also say I do not feel Pescado has broken any rules.

I do, however, have to contest his fourth point from a logic standpoint.

“4. You will note that I said “operating”, not “sharing”. This distinction is actually important and highly relevant. A telephone operator does not share your phone.”

While there is a distinction between operating and sharing, in the case of sharing being “illegal”, the distinction would be far from important enough to use as a defense. This is mot a problem given the fact that it is not an “illegal” action in either case: regardless, if sharing was “illegal”, it is highly doubtful the technical differences between operating and sharing would be a valid defense.

This was merely a mostly irrelevant side comment for the sake of discussion, however. If anyone cares for my opinion on this matter as a whole, I’ll sum it up for you:

1) Pescado, while somewhat rude seeming in this topic, has done nothing wrong. In fact, I believe any potential rude behavior is likely a result of unfair accusations against him.

2) Most of the accusations against him are just so lulziriffically bad, its hilarious. The whole topic comes off as a bunch of kids whining at someone for having an efficient method of game-play. Some might say excessive as well as efficient, but no one has the right to dictate what others do with their time.

I can assure you that Pescado was rude long before anybody accused him of cheating. He uses it as a coping mechanism, and to distract from whatever discussion is at hand. Most people just learn to put up with it.

Untrue. I’m only rude to the stupid, the annoying, and those damn kids. Ask yourself if people who have been repeatedly subjected to my rudeness are not one of these 3.

Originally posted by GamerDude2000:

I do, however, have to contest his fourth point from a logic standpoint.

While there is a distinction between operating and sharing, in the case of sharing being “illegal”, the distinction would be far from important enough to use as a defense.

Ah, you see, but it is a very important distinction, because the two operate in entirely dissimilar ways. The two produce similar outcomes, but the difference is rather like the distinction between a small nuke, and a really big bomb. Both produce a really nice explosion, but one of them gets you international condemnation. Of course, in this case, neither has been declared illegal, but “operating” can’t be really be declared illegal because it is based on fundamental processes that exist at a level below the game and accounts, any more than one can declare breathing too loudly illegal. That is why the distinction is relevant, even through “sharing” isn’t illegal, either. Since the witch hunts started in the first place, we’ve taken an attitude of “Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow they might make it illegal”, and have been devising futureproofed plans.

Originally posted by GamerDude2000:

Allow me to preface this by saying I find most of this to be ridiculous, but entertaining to read. Allow me to also say I do not feel Pescado has broken any rules.

I do, however, have to contest his fourth point from a logic standpoint.

“4. You will note that I said “operating”, not “sharing”. This distinction is actually important and highly relevant. A telephone operator does not share your phone.”

While there is a distinction between operating and sharing, in the case of sharing being “illegal”, the distinction would be far from important enough to use as a defense. This is mot a problem given the fact that it is not an “illegal” action in either case: regardless, if sharing was “illegal”, it is highly doubtful the technical differences between operating and sharing would be a valid defense.

This was merely a mostly irrelevant side comment for the sake of discussion, however. If anyone cares for my opinion on this matter as a whole, I’ll sum it up for you:

1) Pescado, while somewhat rude seeming in this topic, has done nothing wrong. In fact, I believe any potential rude behavior is likely a result of unfair accusations against him.

2) Most of the accusations against him are just so lulziriffically bad, its hilarious. The whole topic comes off as a bunch of kids whining at someone for having an efficient method of game-play. Some might say excessive as well as efficient, but no one has the right to dictate what others do with their time.

no…no…You haven’t been around long enough, or at least been in the chats here long enough to know that awhile back pesc used to brag about his bots and scripts. If anything, I’m sure pesc has done some illegal things within this game for a period of time before.

Anyhow, about the whole “rudeness” thing. Pesc really isn’t that bad. I mean…I’ve seen some really…stupid…people who try and hold a valid argument. Which for them is just a stream of cuss words lined up together and an demeaning comment here and there. Pesc actually puts a lot MORE information then he does insult. And at least he’s original. Some of them are pretty funny/good :3

“Transparent sock-puppet” that’s one to remember :3

Originally posted by hilotaka:

no…no…You haven’t been around long enough, or at least been in the chats here long enough to know that awhile back pesc used to brag about his bots and scripts. If anything, I’m sure pesc has done some illegal things within this game for a period of time before.

You’re forgetting an important point: It wasn’t illegal then. You cannot retroactively alter something to be illegal in the past with a new rule. When they changed the rules, we countered with new methods and abandoned the old developments in favor of the new, which actually work better. The result is largely a loss to you, since the replacement methods are much less suitable for a public release, as the methods now require you to actually do a very specific thing, and the crackdown effectively ended development on things like, say, “improved auction site”, as the new Edgebee rules forbid “communication with the server” by anything other than the browser/flashclient, which is how a “bot” was officially defined. So this is why you can’t have nice things. This could have been the next KoL and you could have had your KoLmafia, but now everything is done with Excel calculators instead and you miss out.

Originally posted by PescadoJM:

Originally posted by hilotaka:

no…no…You haven’t been around long enough, or at least been in the chats here long enough to know that awhile back pesc used to brag about his bots and scripts. If anything, I’m sure pesc has done some illegal things within this game for a period of time before.

You’re forgetting an important point: It wasn’t illegal then. You cannot retroactively alter something to be illegal in the past with a new rule. When they changed the rules, we countered with new methods and abandoned the old developments in favor of the new, which actually work better. The result is largely a loss to you, since the replacement methods are much less suitable for a public release, as the methods now require you to actually do a very specific thing, and the crackdown effectively ended development on things like, say, “improved auction site”, as the new Edgebee rules forbid “communication with the server” by anything other than the browser/flashclient, which is how a “bot” was officially defined. So this is why you can’t have nice things. This could have been the next KoL and you could have had your KoLmafia, but now everything is done with Excel calculators instead and you miss out.

No, I was fully aware of your system. I have read over a comment similar to that one around 3-4 times now. I just through that out there as pure opinion. I have past experiences that lean mean towards that outcome, but it’s so foggy I have no valid recollection, there is no solid facts, just pure opinion.