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> *Originally posted by **[davidfranses](/forums/60/topics/166303?page=231#posts-6633575):***
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> So how does the speed→ double attack conversion go ?
1 Attack Speed after 25 = 1% Double Hit. So, for example, 44 Attack Speed will give you 19% Double Hit.
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Is getting the glaive of smiting (for the bonus of having full holy set) worth it over a 1277 light glaive? I"m not sure how the smiting one is after the bonus of the set is applied.
Another question I have is, should I an unob. pendant or should I keep saving for the 50k accs.? I Only have about 8k right now.
Lastly, where do I get skills books for those rank 500 skills?
Thanks in advance!
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> *Originally posted by **[TheLoverBoy](/forums/60/topics/166303?page=231#posts-6634059):***
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> Lastly, where do I get skills books for those rank 500 skills?
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The ?? skillbooks are obtained from defeating the Abandoned Monsters #1-5 in Abandoned Lab.
(Their number representing the skillbook they drop, top one being #1, bottom being #5.)
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> *Originally posted by **[TheLoverBoy](/forums/60/topics/166303?page=231#posts-6634059):***
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> Is getting the glaive of smiting (for the bonus of having full holy set) worth it over a 1277 light glaive? I"m not sure how the smiting one is after the bonus of the set is applied.
We can’t know with what you gave us. It depends on your total attack and crit% with current armor and enhanced GH equipped, your damage% with and without GH, your ignore defense%, etc.
> Another question I have is, should I an unob. pendant or should I keep saving for the 50k accs.? I Only have about 8k right now.
It will be forever until you get that much unob, it’s probably better to get at least 1 pendant because of the bonuses, and it almost doubles your attack speed after maxed, so it will be handy.
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how much attack speed bonus do a chaos/chaos get after fusion whitout speed rocks?
Edit: But the complite set?
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What is a good set of armors and weapons for 3500 score in SD?
Another question: How do you kill abandoned lab monsters?
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If you have to ask I think it’s probably better not to try.
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~~3,500 score is nearly impossible. No-one, not even Finalitykon with his Ultimate Armour has obtained it legit. You need to do it in HC WM at level 9001 to stand a chance.~~
It is doable. See below for your options.
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Thanks guys, I’ll def get the pendant then!
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> *Originally posted by **[TheChaosNinja](/forums/60/topics/166303?page=231#posts-6634831):***
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> 3,500 score is nearly impossible. No-one, not even Finalitykon with his Ultimate Armour has obtained it legit. You need to do it in HC WM at level 9001 to stand a chance.
I simplified the formula a while ago, I’m not sure if it’s still valid. Without WM, it is indeed impossible (not even 10 chests HC with 30 minutes left). Assuming the whole dungeon is cleaned, I got, to get 3500 points:
Minutes/3 + Chests + 3 (HC) +7 (WM) \>= 24
So, in WM Casual, you’d need 10 chests with 21 minutes left. In hardcore, 10 chests with 12 minutes left, or 7 chests with 21 minutes left.
Seems doable, gotta try now. At least I’ll improve my best score, I hope.
UPDATE: ok, finally managed to kill Casual 0 Chest CHAOS, with less than 3 minutes remaining \>\_\<
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Seems very doable to me. I managed 32XX on my first attempt without being overly perfectionist with setup. 300 more should not be all that hard.
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Yeah. I did some calculations myself, and a WM C 10 chests are doable if you are fast enough. I didn’t know that at the time, so forgive me.
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so anyone got it yet? or at least know the stats?
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I believe Finalitykon is the only one to have obtained it legit, but I used SSF to obtain it, and it’s a rather crazy weapon:

(Note: The unob rating on the CHAOS armour varies. I believe it depends on score)
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> *Originally posted by **[TheChaosNinja](/forums/60/topics/166303?page=231#posts-6636797):***
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Which set/AI did you use?
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I used a hacked Ultimate Armour set in SSF. It’s not legit.
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I tried with the same armor but it didn’t work
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> *Originally posted by **[Aurian](/forums/60/topics/166303?page=231#posts-6633480):***
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> Whatever serves you best. Since it can’t be enhanced with attack, there’s not the usual debate of “What is most optimal?”. Get the amount of speed and crit chance you need to be capped out in both, and the rest is your own preference of accuracy/hp regen.
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GUYs, how do u give robacon a wep
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same as you would move an item around/store it/fuse/…
ctrl+leftclick on desired weapon, leftclick on his weaponslot
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> *Originally posted by **[toma333](/forums/60/topics/166303?page=232#posts-6638971):***
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> GUYs, how do u give robacon a wep
Make sure you give him a **RANK 1** weapon to start out, and are rank 40, I believe.
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Does anything affect the spawn rate of SC2 while mining? I haven’t done mining in quite a while but now I’m trying to increase my SC2 bestiary level.
I did some searching on the forum, but I’m not sure if there’s anything not being mentioned or if the following still applies:
> *Originally posted by **[Draconi](/forums/60/topics/267050?page=2#posts-5866737):***
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> Mining in WM is not worth it solely on the fact SC1 can’t be epic, though there’s extra 2% SC2 spawn rate> *Originally posted by **[Draconi](/forums/60/topics/269218?page=1#posts-5793825):***
> Legendary pickaxe gives extra 1.5% SC2 encounter chance, Master’s give 1%. Unob pickaxe gives extra 3%
Can Draconi or anyone else confirm these statements? Although I don’t think an extra 2% spawn would be worth the much slower kill rate in WM. And I’m already using the unobtainium pickaxe.
> *Originally posted by **[sebas8181](/forums/60/topics/293790?page=1#posts-6292569):***
> Is it better having Epic Monster Spawn Rate for SC2 faster spawning? This seems to imply that higher epic rate causes higher SC2 spawn, but it’s never confirmed anywhere. I know SC2 is always epic, but does it appear whenever a SC1 would be epic, replacing it? That would mean higher epic rate would cause higher SC2 spawn. However, if SC2 is simply an independent uncommon spawn that just happens to always be epic if it appears, then higher epic rate would not affect it.
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> *Originally posted by **[Draconi](/forums/60/topics/166303?page=230#posts-6627633):***
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> There is no need to test. GH does less damage than CN at 0 defense, that means that for all possible defense values it will do worse than CN.
Well poop, so was it a waste of time to have even constructed my HG set since I already have CN? obviously CN is temporary so I have to keep recrafting it every so often, but if it’s better it’s better right? hrm. so much time spent making that HG set.
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> *Originally posted by **[phantomwolf13](/forums/60/topics/166303?page=232#posts-6641199):***
SC2 spawns only with Master’s, Legendary and Unob pickaxes (1, 1.5 and 3% chance), or in WM (2% chance). Combining a pickaxe with WM increases the chance, but since the kill speed is slower in WM it’s probably only good if you don’t have the pickaxes.
> *Originally posted by **[Johnurz](/forums/60/topics/166303?page=232#posts-6641401):***
Well, HG got nerfed really hard recently. GoS used to be free, boss damage and GoS damage bonus used to multiply (now they just add to each other), and set bonus damage was reduced because it rendered regular equipment obsolete.
BTW I noticed you didn’t say how your HG is enhanced. I assume it’s full attack, but if it isn’t, it obviously won’t work well.
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