MEGATHREAD: Battle Arena page 308

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Are the wizard set and emperor’s clothes useful for anything, in a practical sense? I know that high rank = higher bonuses, but I can’t think of a situation where it’d be worth the loss in stats. Even if you fuse them it’s still a cut in stats from fusing two high-stat items.

 
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Originally posted by Mechald:

Are the wizard set and emperor’s clothes useful for anything, in a practical sense? I know that high rank = higher bonuses, but I can’t think of a situation where it’d be worth the loss in stats. Even if you fuse them it’s still a cut in stats from fusing two high-stat items.

They are quite useful in places where bonuses are important but stats are not: MP-farming with a pickaxe is one situation that comes to mind, DP farming in WM mode is another. Once you have Unob20 CHAOS that becomes a moot point, but I’d imagine that by that time you’d know most of this already anyway.

 
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Ok so I just got 50k unob. what would be better yellow madness gem or gem of eternal rage? Or rather what are the pros and cons of each.

I never really got a clear answer and definitely don’t want to make a bad decision.

 
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Originally posted by TheLoverBoy:

Ok so I just got 50k unob. what would be better yellow madness gem or gem of eternal rage? Or rather what are the pros and cons of each.

I never really got a clear answer and definitely don’t want to make a bad decision.

Take the Gem of Eternal Rage, there isn’t really a contest.

Yellow Madness Gem provides boosted Rare Rate, nulls the EXP penalty against yellow mobs, and increases EXP rate in general.
Pro: ..it’s good for…pyramid, I guess?
Cons: A good Dominator Gem or Mega Triangle Gem can fulfill this role too.

Gem of Eternal Rage sets your Rage to 100%, meaning that you always get the full “Rage Power” and “Panic / Rage Speed” modifiers.
Pro: Eternal rage! What’s not to love?
Cons: You don’t have your trinket slot open, meaning that the BEST place to use this is the place where you can’t(When you need the WM Gem so that you can have your Invisible Ally slot open).

 
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Cons: A good Dominator Gem or Mega Triangle Gem can fulfill this role too.

Not true. If enemy has yellow name there’s nothing that can increase exp gain better than yellow madness gem. It affects a completely different multiplier than other bonuses and it effectively increases exp gain by at least 1.12×.

 
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Yellow madness gem says “And makes rare monsters more likely to appear!”. Doesn’t that mean it boosts rare rate?

 
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Sweet thanks for the input went with the gem and its awesome!

 
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Does the neon skin ONLY drop in apoc. mode? I was searching the forums and I think it can be found at the hideout in regular but i’m not sure.

 
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It does not exclusively drop in Apocalypse mode.

 
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Originally posted by TheLoverBoy:

Does the neon skin ONLY drop in apoc. mode? I was searching the forums and I think it can be found at the hideout in regular but i’m not sure.

Doing it in Apoc just increases the unob enhancement on it (unob7 for hc/apoc afaik, I haven’t actually managed to get one in apoc)

 
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Out of curiosity, is there anything (other than pure luck and the type of pickaxe being used) that influences the initial stats of the various colored loot armors dropped by Secret Crystals? Wondering about this because awhile ago I got a full set of rank 70 blue armor of loot that all had high speed bonuses (4 of the pieces had attack speed stats of at least 40%). Since then (currently rank 256) every other piece of loot armor I’ve gotten has completely lacked any attack speed stat (excepting 2 pieces of rank 500 purple loot armor that I just got a few minutes ago).

 
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Rank will always be 30 + enemy level / 20, with Green being <= 250, Blue between 70 and 360 and Purple between 120 and 500. With HC or WM, 50% chance of Attack between 1-60, Speed 1-10, 20% chance of Critical 1-30, Accuracy 1-30, HP 1-30, 80% chance (HC or WM not needed) of Defense 31-150, all with a 40% chance afterwards of being the max with Gem of Good Luck equipped. Also, Unob is 4, +2 HC, +4 WM, +1 Apoc. So, to answer your question directly, not whether it will have or not, but what the final value is, yes.

 
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Originally posted by crazye97:

Rank will always be 30 + enemy level / 20, with Green being <= 250, Blue between 70 and 360 and Purple between 120 and 500. With HC or WM, 50% chance of Attack between 1-60, Speed 1-10, 20% chance of Critical 1-30, Accuracy 1-30, HP 1-30, 80% chance (HC or WM not needed) of Defense 31-150, all with a 40% chance afterwards of being the max with Gem of Good Luck equipped. Also, Unob is 4, +2 HC, +4 WM, +1 Apoc. So, to answer your question directly, not whether it will have or not, but what the final value is, yes.

So does that mean that on casual without WM the armor will never have any speed? And if so, what would be the best way for me to go about trying to get some higher rank armor that has speed if currently I am capable of idle mining with a master’s pick on casual (using ring of cruelty).

 
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Presuming you’re talking about “of Loot” armor, it won’t, yes. You can always try lower Pickaxes on HC or WM, or try fighting other things, since Crystals aren’t required for “of Loot” armor.

 
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Originally posted by crazye97:

Presuming you’re talking about “of Loot” armor, it won’t, yes. You can always try lower Pickaxes on HC or WM, or try fighting other things, since Crystals aren’t required for “of Loot” armor.

Thanks, that’s what I wanted to know. I’m currently testing out HC with a Diamond Pickaxe, and I see that its taking me about 40 seconds to kill rare crystals (while idling), would it be safe to assume that I would be fine if a SC2 shows up?

 
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As long as you’re not getting repeatedly stunned, then you should be fine.

EDIT: See next page discussion.

 
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Originally posted by crazye97:

As long as you’re not getting repeatedly stunned, then you should be fine.

I’m wondering how that would be possible. Is there a new Magic Secret Crystal of Doom enemy that can attack you or something?

 
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I seem to recall being stunned by SC2s at one point, and their special is marked as Stun… unless I’m going crazy. I haven’t actually mined in a while.

 
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They can stun you in Apocalypse mode. But you shouldn’t really be idling if that’s the case.

 
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Ah. Then that must have changed since I mined. I never mined in Apocalypse, just WM.

 
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What are the buffs on which Adrenaline and Buff Boost work? Are these only valid for Power Mastery and Reward, or are there some others?

 
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Adrenaline works on all regular potion buffs (hence “potion efficiency”), that is, Power, Master, Reward and Magnet. It won’t work on Nightmare and Anti-Curse, despite being able to apply them from potion too.

Buff Boost works on all buffs, but it doesn’t affect the stat loss from Nightmare and doesn’t do anything for Invincibility, Magnet and Anti-Curse.

 
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Looking at the recipes tab in Item Crafting, I see that something is unlocked for defeating Chuck Norris ten times. Is this an improvement to the Chuck Norris armor, and if so, what are the improvements?

 
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Nothing new is unlocked. You just get the regular recipe level increase benefits, that is higher Legendary/Epic/Rare/Uncommon base chance (random increase in defense upon crafting) and increase in number of Crystals you can apply when crafting the item.

 
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How can you get good perma earrings? At over rank 300 and level 3500, I have only found crappy and just now awesome(time). Crappy earings are crappy, and the awesome earrings cost too much for a week.