MEGATHREAD: Battle Arena page 278

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Apologies for any repetition; I know there’s various bits of info scattered over the forum, but after hours of trying to work it out, I’m still unsure…

Level 8800, BA rank 446.

I think I need to do SD in WM to get some chaos armour. (Amirite? Is that what I should be heading towards?)

I currently have a mix of knightmare and Dark Angel armour. And I’m still shooting a pyra+evil.

I don’t fully understand enhancing/fusing/levelling (despite reading up lots).

I’ve heard that FG is good; should I craft one of those? Or is there another way to get one?

I’ve read that critical damage is almost useless in WM (right?) so… what are the best enhancers for the FG (for tacking SD WM)?

What stats should I try for on my armour? (Again, specifically, to tackle SD in WM)

Should I actually craft some different armour (chuck, or humblebee, or something) and enhance that, instead of using the stuff I get from crystal drops?

Note, if I’m heading in the wrong direction, and shouldn’t worry about SD/WM, please tell me!

Thanks in anticipation

EDIT 16 Feb: I am still waiting/hoping for more answers to this. I’m still confused. I am now level 8900, rank 450.

 
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Anyone got any tips for end game crafting material farming? I find that I have infinite pixels to craft unique enhancers, but not the CM to do so. I am currently idling NCI with pixel bonuses, which is decent gain for idling, but I’d like to speed it up a bit if I can.

 
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I found WM Epicrate farming really good to get lots of CM. I think it would be best to Idle WM NCI with epic rate.
Dont know if mining on Casual with Unob pickaxe could be better, didnt really mine to much.

 
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Originally posted by AtsubiAriichan:

[…] Boss dmg gets half on WM, so set bonus not as efecitve. Also it has huge defense and evade, which help on WM too.

ありがとうございます。

Should I make a FG now, and use that in SD? Or should I wait until I get chaos armour?

I can currently only finish SD (casual) with 7 chests. But maybe I’ll get a few more, as I rank up and level up.

I think you’re suggesting I use a pole-arm for now, but they seem much weaker than the pyra+evil that I use. Unless I enhance it or something?

 
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I’ve obtained a golden cannon, and a G5 from mining, should i fuse them and how should i enhance them? ^^

 
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Originally posted by ildfugl:

I’ve obtained a golden cannon, and a G5 from mining, should i fuse them and how should i enhance them? ^^

Gotta be a bit more specific.

What is your progress right now? (lvl/rank) and goals you wanna achieve?

 
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I’m just about done having a bronze pick welded to my hand to farm SCM, and my next goal is to get enough unob for a Rage Gem. What’s the best way to go about idling that? Can’t find it atm, but I had read that LL was good, I’m just confused how you actually pick up all the unob. Supposed to use Dark Ruler or something? Also, what kind of rate can I hope for? I’ve been getting like 15-20k SCM a day with bronze mining, how many moons is it going to take to get 46k more unob?

 
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I have heard rates of 400ish an hour with wm LL, but yes use the dr for wm ll unob farming. At 400 an hour it’ll only take 5 days which is pretty short in the long run.

 
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400 unob per hour? Id love to hear HOW someone gets that much. I can make like 200/hour. The only things I can think of to improve further would be somehow having more damage to 1-shot the bosses in LL, or being sufficiently powerful to move to BGB? Or else somehow wearing higher rank armors for more epic rate?

 
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So I’m lvl 2167 and rank 229 in BA, any good places to idle now besides infinity?

 
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I got ~500 unob/hour from WMLL. I used around 1600 epic rate and had mastered all IAs.
WMNCI is even better, could obtain 800-900 per hour there. Luckily i got my Rage Gem now.

 
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1600 epic means you wore ECs??? how did you have enough damage? and how do you idle WMNCI pre-rage gem?

 
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What sort of gear would you need to be able to idle WM NCI properly? Would all attack chaos/EC with rage gem be enough? Any other things I should be aware of/should do? Like maybe use combo skills, which I havent been using… <_<

 
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1600 is with EC ,R500 Dominator Gem and Meteoric Weapon on Roba. For WMLL thats pretty much enough damage, when you use Attack%/Attackpower bonuses.

WMNCI is only good idleable with either Rage gem and DR, or with CHAOS AURA. Problem with CHAOS AURA is the missing autoloot, but can be fixed with Floating Fish IA and 500% potion efficiency.

 
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Maybe stupid question, but I am just 75 Rank noob. Where I can farm CM except mining? Because mining doesnt give any constant CM each crystal, so its unreliable in my noob opinion.

 
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Originally posted by Alga:

1600 is with EC ,R500 Dominator Gem and Meteoric Weapon on Roba. For WMLL thats pretty much enough damage, when you use Attack%/Attackpower bonuses.

WMNCI is only good idleable with either Rage gem and DR, or with CHAOS AURA. Problem with CHAOS AURA is the missing autoloot, but can be fixed with Floating Fish IA and 500% potion efficiency.

I’d like to know the sort of armour I’d need though. Cause I read somewhere or other that someone was using chaos/EC there… Would that work?

 
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Originally posted by oddish:

I’d like to know the sort of armour I’d need though. Cause I read somewhere or other that someone was using chaos/EC there… Would that work?

It should work. I used humblebee, which (I believe) has better stats but much lower epic rate, to get 600-700 per hour. Explosive attack was really important for my speed so I had a decent chance to stun Castor Ball before he hit me. With unfused, incomplete CHAOS armor (which has lower stats than what your fusion would have), I was still getting 400 or so per hour.

 
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I posted about WM NCI in my mini guide for apocalypse mode:

Originally posted by savag3blow:
Originally posted by lackinglack1:

Well but how in the hell do you kill nearly as quick doing WM NCI? Gem of Rage?

Yes, I use gem of eternal rage, DR and a set of Chaos/EC fuse enhanced for attack, all bonuses are epic rate, atk % and atk power. My stats are 500 – 527mil range, 214% boss damage, 160% spawn, 1272% epic rate, 1725% drop rate. Once I hit 600 combo+, it almost always 1 hit ko’s, sometimes the castor ball slips through, but it doesn’t matter too much. Giving robacon a ranged weapon for the stun helps a lot too, because even if the castor ball doesn’t die straight away, the stun gives you enough time so it comes down again before it reaches you. NCI has a base of 3% epic rate in WM, so it is twice as much as LL…

This pic shows me getting 68 unob in 5 minutes, which is 13.6 unob / min and its in idle mode, which shows I’ve been afk for at least 10 minutes. On average though, it is more closer to 11 unob/min. There are still lots more things to improve though, mainly more unob tiers, and if I could increase my damage to guarantee 1 hit ko on castor ball, it would help quite a bit I suppose.

Back then my equipment was pretty bad though, so if I tried now, I could probably get constant 13unob/minute or more.

EDIT: By the way, since the time I posted, Tukkun has made a ninja nerf on epic rate of NCI. It went down from 3.5% to 3%. I haven’t tried yet, but it could be better if you can idle in WM fortress foothills, and definitely better if you can idle WM Castle grimm but that would be very hard to do… I might try this soon with CHAOS AURA and just use the loot magnet + floating fish combo for the autoloot. Currently I’m maxing out my empowering gem (lv477), once it’s maxed I’ll switch to the WM gem and try this out.

 
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Thsi is probably a very stupid question but how do I move on in 2011 triangle land. I keep getting a message sayign to take out the triangles first. Any help?

 
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Originally posted by FightingWarrior7:

Thsi is probably a very stupid question but how do I move on in 2011 triangle land. I keep getting a message sayign to take out the triangles first. Any help?

kill 100 triangles.

 
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I just got transparent earrings from mining… do they do anything? Mind you it came as an outift. Not sure if this does anything.

 
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Originally posted by NinjaBlad3z:

I just got transparent earrings from mining… do they do anything? Mind you it came as an outift. Not sure if this does anything.

If you put on some earrings (Either craft the “Crappy Earrings” or loot some from MBR and the Strange Machine) and you don’t like the color of them, you can use the Transparent ones to hide them.

 
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Well after reading about 9 pages of forum thread’s, I can’t seem to find any information about the Abandoned Lab. Is there any guide’s about defeating the mob’s there? I am in full Chaos with and FG and can’t seem to even really damage the elemental boss. Thank you very much in advance for any help.

 
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Is it better to have Attack (orange bonus) on armor, or Damage vs. bosses/Damage vs. Non-bosses (orange bonus) on my armor? I did it on my greatersword and even though it has less attack it does a lot more damage in noticable places like the Secret Dungeon.
Also, I have crimson armor, time for a upgrade or not yet?

 
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Originally posted by Clusterone666:

Is it better to have Attack (orange bonus) on armor, or Damage vs. bosses/Damage vs. Non-bosses (orange bonus) on my armor? I did it on my greatersword and even though it has less attack it does a lot more damage in noticable places like the Secret Dungeon.
Also, I have crimson armor, time for a upgrade or not yet?

For a start, damage/boss damage cannot be placed onto armors unless it was already there. For orange bonuses, go for attack % gives the best damage. If you want to upgrade, I think you should get the humblebee armor. That set will be enough for you to get the CHAOS AURA once fully levelled/enhanced.