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So what’s the deal with the last enhancer on a (+10, +9) fused item? Something special I’m supposed to do?

 
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What’s a good setup for getting level 8000 monsters in corruption? I’m stuck around 7400 and I only go up a few levels each time I try corruption.

 
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Originally posted by Ppaatt:

So what’s the deal with the last enhancer on a (+10, +9) fused item? Something special I’m supposed to do?

The last enhancer is used later so it gets its full power included on the weapon. Treat it like the 10th enhancer from your primary item.

 
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Noob questions:

Currently idling in Secret Beach at rank 190, using the crafted Elite armor set with minor enhancements, and the Adventurer’s trophy as it was the only weapon making decent hits against tougher monsters. Where/what should I be doing next, Volcano Peak perhaps? What armor and weapon should I be targeting at this point? Have been stuck in secret beach for quite a while and seem to have stalled.

 
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Beach/Secret Beach is where the BA really slows down. You’re gonna be stuck in those areas for a long time. Probably at least till level 2500 or 3000. Level affects your stats. When you can, save up your Pixels to increase attack (buy the more expensive option, it’s a better deal), that will allow you to move to harder enemies quicker.
Your greatest foe will be the Spirits, they are much tougher than any other enemies in those areas. When you can kill them, you can move on to the next area. When you can kill them easily, you can probably idle those areas (but use a protection ring the first few times just in case.)
Around that time I started working on a couple of the raids. You should be able to do the Pyramid, (healing is an ok way to clear it at low levels.) Prehistoric and Defense Mission (with a properly enhanced wand) on Casual. Even if you can’t beat them, they will still give good drops that will allow you to beat them after several tries. Corruption is ALWAYS a good idea, because the monsters get stronger as you get stronger.
Little advice for the Defense Mission: Quick attack and heal should be all you use in that battle. You can equip Robacon because he won’t attack “DON’T ATTACK” but be sure to change your IA.
Don’t worry about ToD, Secret Dungeon, or Megaboss’s Revenge, those will be a bit later. You can try the Special Arena, but don’t expect to beat it for a while. It’s not a bad place if you just want to burn the keys for the rewards.
The rest of this is second hand info that worked well for me. I defer to more knowlegable players if their info contradicts mine.
Your armor will basically be fine until you can afford Berzerker pieces. You should craft and upgrade a Premium Sword (3) and a Super Machine Gun, then Fuse them. That will serve you well until you get enough for a Glaive (don’t bother with anything stronger than that, it’s just a waste of pixels.)
When enhancing weapons, your first priority should be to get your attack speed up to 25, don’t forget the skills and armor bonuses that can affect it too. Your second priority should be critical chance to 95%, and after that attack. (I am not sure about the stuff that can’t be enhanced w/ attack.)
Hope this helps.

 
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Originally posted by crazye97:
Originally posted by Ppaatt:

So what’s the deal with the last enhancer on a (+10, +9) fused item? Something special I’m supposed to do?

The last enhancer is used later so it gets its full power included on the weapon. Treat it like the 10th enhancer from your primary item.

Would a lvl 10 critical rock be a good idea? Or should I just go for attack? It has a 17% crit chance right now and 1083 attack

 
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Originally posted by Ppaatt:
Originally posted by crazye97:
Originally posted by Ppaatt:

So what’s the deal with the last enhancer on a (+10, +9) fused item? Something special I’m supposed to do?

The last enhancer is used later so it gets its full power included on the weapon. Treat it like the 10th enhancer from your primary item.

Would a lvl 10 critical rock be a good idea? Or should I just go for attack? It has a 17% crit chance right now and 1083 attack

go for the crit rock

 
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Hello! Two rather noobish questions here. I’m only level 5000 on my first run.

I just crafted a glaive, I have applied two +50 att rocks to it already. Should I be putting something else on it instead?

Also, is the range on the glaive as far as melee weapons go? Does the G5 have better reach?

EDIT: One more, should I fuse something with the glaive, and if so what should it be? I already have the bonus rocks applied to the glaive, will they and the weapon’s level go away if I fuse?

 
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I cant say which is better but chaotic growth rocks (probably out of your budget) and elite growth rocks are pretty good too since they add bonuses to defense, accuracy, and crit chance as well. On second though, you want high crit chance so leveling rocks may be great

 
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Yeah, chaotic growth rocks are waaay out of my budget. I can get all the elite growths that I could need though pretty easily.

So should I even bother with fusing?

 
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Originally posted by Bovolt:

So should I even bother with fusing?

Definitely fuse it, preferably with another G1, and other then ranged weapons the glaives have the best range seeing as they hit spawn point. Also make sure you speed stat is 25, should only need to get the G1 to 10~13

 
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Originally posted by Dxb105:
Originally posted by Bovolt:

So should I even bother with fusing?

Definitely fuse it, preferably with another G1, and other then ranged weapons the glaives have the best range seeing as they hit spawn point. Also make sure you speed stat is 25, should only need to get the G1 to 10~13

Thank you! When I fuse with another glaive, will I lose my current weapon levels and applied enhancements?

 
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why did a monster throw soap at me, and is there significance in this ?!

 
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Originally posted by Calvin_H:

why did a monster throw soap at me, and is there significance in this ?!

SOAP is mostly for hiding your HP and MP, so you can’t tell if you are safe or you’re about to die, also, it will hide status effect (very bad if you got zombified effect and you’re about to die) and hides most of the screen so you can’t see the monster until it is really close to you

 
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If you’re soaped but not potion blocked, you can tell if your health is full or not by whether or not the Health Potion button is lit. If the button lights up and stays lit, you’re under max HP and may want to heal. If your heal is level 10 and the button doesn’t go dim when you heal once, you’re likely zombified and you just damaged yourself, but you can spam health potions to heal up while zombified. If you’re soaped and potion blocked, you won’t be able to tell what your health is at. I think I heard once that you can’t be zombified and potion blocked at the same time, so it may be okay to spam heal in that case.

 
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Originally posted by davidfranses:

‘kay, here’s the deal, I’m close to lvl 9000 now, and I’m still unable to beat ToD, let alone CN or CHAOS. I’ve got a tiny stockpile of resources, (that would be 6 bil pixels, 200 mil CM , and random amounts of other stuff ) . I’ve managed to grab 4 pieces of a HG set by running SD while only hitting treasure chest rooms if i don’t have to do boss rooms (eithe ron my path or as the treausre room itself) . However, even if i’d eventually be able to craft a glaive of smithing, I fail to see why it’s supposed to be that powerfull.

Could anyone give me some advise on what armor I could craft and enhance with my little resources so I would at least have a fighting chance at what seems to be unreachable goals ? (Currently using a Defense/EC set) maybe downgradeto zerk+zerk until i can craft a zerk+EC ?

Just to clarify, my 4 HG pieces are time limited (gotten them on casual) , and some1 advised to craft a CN set, but I can’t beat CN !

Anyhting else I could do :-/

 
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When I asked Vaajper for his strategy during his speedrun, he said he crafted elite alien armor to beat CN with, so that he could craft CN armor. I guess you could try that? It would cost you 1b pixels and 200m CM though.

 
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Originally posted by Aurian:

When I asked Vaajper for his strategy during his speedrun, he said he crafted elite alien armor to beat CN with, so that he could craft CN armor. I guess you could try that? It would cost you 1b pixels and 200m CM though.

It’s something I haven’t thought about yet , it would drain me af all the CM i have though, and that seems to be ultra-scarce somehow for me.

I’m just wondering how people manage to kill CHAOS it in their first assencsion at like lvl 4000 etc ; I’m lvl 8650 now, and CN/ToD/Chaos are unkillable for me :-/

It’s defiantly an option I’ll explore, but until then, maybe some other input ?

 
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I think the only thing anyone can tell you at this point is that you need to gather more resources. I would try to get pixel on all your gear, and work on collecting pixels/cm to be able to make proper gear.

 
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At level 8650 I can’t imagine your stats are too low, so that means you need to look at other things. Also, I was a lot stronger than you with just HG and a G1, so the answer isn’t really in equipment either. There are 5000 things that change how the BA works, and you aren’t giving all the crucial information, so I’ll just talk about stuff you haven’t mentioned yet.
Everyone says Rank is irrelivent, that it’s all in levels, but those people are wrong. Work on leveling up your rank so you can get more skill points (I used Smily Island because it gave good exp for it’s strength.) You will want to use skills to buff up your stats past what you can normally get. When I only had 25 ranks of Overpowered Tanker, I died much faster than when I had 50. Also, make sure you hit the stat caps (25 speed, 90% resist, 95% crit chance) but don’t go over. Those skills don’t give a good return on investment over that amount (yes, even Weapon Booster, Double Hit skill is beter.) Hitting the stat caps w/ equipment alone is almost impossible, you will need significant amounts of skills to get there. Plus, once your skills are high enough, you can drop the enhancers for those stats and use them for something else.
I killed CHAOS around your level on my first ascention, and the major turning point for me was my skills. I used HG armor and a GoS to kill him, nothing fused. But even with just the G1 and HG I still managed to take out anything in the dungeon really quickly. Enhance the HG w/ the random enhancers you get from the chests, because you won’t be using it much past the time limit (or so I’m told.)
Finally, the last key is use Super Knockback when attacking strong creatures. If you can kill things fast, or if they dont’ take normal damage (gems, aliens) then Quick Attack is the way to go. But the harder monsters, aka everything you are having trouble with, you NEED to use Super Knockback to do any significant damage. I don’t know the reason behind this, I’m sure others can elaborate, I just know it works.
I wish there was more help for newer players, hardly anyone who is in chat or the forums knows what it’s like not to play with all the toys already unlocked.

 
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Beating CHAOS For Dummies

1) Skills

To beat CHAOS, you’ll need the following skills’ levels maxed (or as close to maxed as possible):

  • Strength Enhancement
  • Invisible Weapon
  • Artful Dodger
  • Accuracy Boost
  • Rage Mastery
  • Rage Power
  • Critical Chance
  • Keen Eyes
  • Double Hit
  • Buff Boost

If you don’t have access to them, ?? skills aren’t really needed. They’re just cool, expensive bonuses. If you have access, Spirit Shield is really good and is the only skill you really need to max (increase everything else to 10).

To max regular skills you need to find skill books, they’re dropped by rare monsters, and the chance to drop increases with enemy level (SD is a nice place to find them).

If you don’t have epic skills maxed, you need to fight epic enemies. The best place should be ToD WM (beat only the first few enemies, leave and enter again) and if you have Rank 500 and already ascended, get epic rate bonus on armor and fight in Lullaby Lake. You only really need Buff Boost maxed, and luckily it’s one of the skill books with the highest drop chance.

2) Resources

You’re going to need some bonus rocks. Mining is the way to go. Secret Crystals are always rare (SC2 is always epic), and that gives a huge boost to drop rate. They’re bosses (another huge DR boost), so they give a lot of purple bonuses and you can increase kill speed with Boss Damage bonus. SC2 can give green bonus rocks too, which can help with other resource gathering.

For the fight, you’re looking for the following bonus rocks:

  • Equipment Attack (purple)
  • Attack (orange)
  • Boss Damage (orange, weapon-only)
  • Damage Taken (orange, optional)

For resource gathering, Pixel and Reward green bonuses are recommended.

You will have to buy some expensive stuff. I think the best place to go for pixel/CM should be SD. Clean all rooms and leave. After the first 5 times on that day, fight only boss rooms, they give better rewards.

3) Equipment

You need some solid armor. That will be the source of your damage. Elite Alien, HG, CN etc. HG-GoS used to be the way to go, but that’s because GoS could be crafted for free. I still would recommend a HG-GoS enhanced with attack only (doesn’t need to be lv 10 rocks, maybe level 7-8 and the last couple levels enhanced with Mystery enhancers). The reason it’s only attack is to guarantee the damage will be enough to overcome CHAOS’s defense, and because GoS doesn’t have any attack.

Otherwise, have a really strong fused weapon (possibly enhanced with crit rocks and CGRs), and use critical and attack rocks on armor (for every 200 equipment attack you should have another 100% crit damage).

For accessories, you could get a Dominator gem from SC, and some pendants in SD. You could also hunt some Immortal Pendants from Pyramid.

4) Fighting

Get every skill previously mentioned (except Critical Chance) maxed. Also increase Overpowered Tanker to level 29. Use a Master buff potion. You should have Damage Resist %, Accuracy % and Evasion % all maxed. The idea here is to not get hit, and to be able to survive if you are. The only dangerous situations are getting hit by potion block and blind. All you can do is hope not to get hit by those and hold the potion key all the time, that way it will be used as soon as you get hit and can save you from another hit right after. Spirit Shield skill and other sources of Negate Effect are really helpful too.

If you still can’t do it, try to make so you have max Resist/Evasion without having to rely on buff with equipment bonuses. Increase HP, too.

edit: forgot about ????? IA. Probably the best IA for CHAOS. If you don’t have access to Spirit Shield Censor Sheep is good too.

 
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Thank you Draconi. That was the best, most extensive, most helpful, most useful thing I’ve read about the Secret Dungeon, ever.

I’ve gotten all kinds of ideas for how to improve my CHAOS battle now!

 
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Thanks Draconi !

 
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Well, seems like v1500 nerfed Buff Boost. Right now you need level 45 OT and Dodge Chance bonus on a piece of equipment to max defensive stats (Accuracy % will be at 85%, but it’s really minor). Other than that I think the strategy should work still.