AzureRoll- need help:P page 2

Wow, i never supose i start such a discussion, so far i made this

First I finish rest Phobos missions, then I will start farming Jotun and Sentinel raid (I should handle Jotun with this deck according to fansite).
Once again ty all for help:)

And BTW little q: any1 saw summon spell to be mimiced?

summon can be mimicked when it isn’t an action.

And you have another awakening legendarys, i am yealous? Did you wb your packs, or are you just lucky?

Pure luck, I open only 2 packs, tomorow will be 3rd wonder what i get this time (maybe legendary xeno to my syco deck? xD).

Originally posted by Korbol:

Wow, i never supose i start such a discussion, so far i made this

First I finish rest Phobos missions, then I will start farming Jotun and Sentinel raid (I should handle Jotun with this deck according to fansite).
Once again ty all for help:)

And BTW little q: any1 saw summon spell to be mimiced?

Not bad.
I’d replace Gasher though.
Possible options are Raz Reborn or Necrogeddon (if you got lucky obtaining them) or even another Ogre. Sometimes Heph’s Protect All could be very nice too.
And switch EMP for 3rd Asylum if you want to run this on auto.

You’re lucky to have Gasher, but don’t feel the need to stick him in every deck.

He’s best as the solo Bloodthirsty in a Rainbow deck, that way the Rally BT 2 is guaranteed to push his attack to 2. Since Dracorex is common it he could only have 1 attack so extra rally is important – Asylums can push this up. There’s a lot of protect flying around in the meta these days so 2attack isn’t going to cut it.

I think that this deck would do very well:

You could replace LoT with Malort. Malort has 4 less HP than LoT but Strike Raider 1 replaces the useless Heal BT 1.

draco doesnt effect anything with a start of 0 attack

Korbol… Israfel AND Gasher, from 2 packs? Damn lucky… But you also have to think, throwing cards in a deck because you like them won’t help- I’d probably throw Gasher in a rainbow or something of the type- but, if you get a Razogoth Reborn (looks like you probably will at this rate…), use that in a SC deck- So amazing in defence… like OMG crazy

Originally posted by xathil:

what? i have no clue who you are moonfrost and nor do i really care. the issue with heph is a) beacon. valor + pierce = dead heph.
b) dredge+atlas?
c) gnasher?
d)heacles+svet?
e)pred+atlas?
the fact is dozens of things IN the current meta can kill heph before he can activate. absolutely NOTHING can kill BoD before it activates. much less before it regenerates once.

You’re forgetting that Hephatat is mainly a support card. When its deck has dracorex, options B, D, and E are no longer viable. Even A wouldn’t work if the UB has no support. Kilgore doesn’t one hit it either with three damage, and the weaken 2 makes Kilgore useless 1 vs. 1, which is what you are assuming with your examples. None of your examples can take out Hephatat in one hit with dracorex, which is next to ubiquitous. Besides, play smart, use “logic” like you said. The real comparison of cards should be how well they integrate into a deck. The main use of Hephatat is to keep slow roll/mid-roll decks alive. Use one of the higher health cards or other refresh cards in your deck to stall before choosing Hephatat. Then Hephatat becomes a pain when all the rest of the slow roll cards activate, especially with Longshot to intercept all the strikes.

The statement that nothing can kill BoD before activation is partially true, but only if you plop it down first. If you get it later, there’s no guarantee that it may be sieged/shot out in one turn, even with one regen, which in itself is not certain. However, placing Hephatat relatively late ensures that it is practically invincible. Add that to the one extra delay of BoD and no Weaken 2, and I’d rather use my LE Hephatat in most situations.

also, don’t use meatydoughnuts deck… otherwise you’ll become a meaty doughnut- decks need to be able to last or put out tonees of damage fast- LoT, Gasher and 2 Asylums certainly doesn’t fit into any of these categories…

I just put him to farm missions, coz so far I’m in m. 152.

PS: And to piss u guys more:
Did i mention that i got this:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/pissedb.jpg/

Originally posted by ratchet500:

Originally posted by xathil:

what? i have no clue who you are moonfrost and nor do i really care. the issue with heph is a) beacon. valor + pierce = dead heph.
b) dredge+atlas?
c) gnasher?
d)heacles+svet?
e)pred+atlas?
the fact is dozens of things IN the current meta can kill heph before he can activate. absolutely NOTHING can kill BoD before it activates. much less before it regenerates once.

You’re forgetting that Hephatat is mainly a support card. When its deck has dracorex, options B, D, and E are no longer viable. Even A wouldn’t work if the UB has no support. Kilgore doesn’t one hit it either with three damage, and the weaken 2 makes Kilgore useless 1 vs. 1, which is what you are assuming with your examples. None of your examples can take out Hephatat in one hit with dracorex, which is next to ubiquitous. Besides, play smart, use “logic” like you said. The real comparison of cards should be how well they integrate into a deck. The main use of Hephatat is to keep slow roll/mid-roll decks alive. Use one of the higher health cards or other refresh cards in your deck to stall before choosing Hephatat. Then Hephatat becomes a pain when all the rest of the slow roll cards activate, especially with Longshot to intercept all the strikes.

The statement that nothing can kill BoD before activation is partially true, but only if you plop it down first. If you get it later, there’s no guarantee that it may be sieged/shot out in one turn, even with one regen, which in itself is not certain. However, placing Hephatat relatively late ensures that it is practically invincible. Add that to the one extra delay of BoD and no Weaken 2, and I’d rather use my LE Hephatat in most situations.

you are taking this totally out of context. read the list again. this is about THIS specific deck. its about heph in an EMPRESS pod spam. dracorex never comes into the picture. please go back and READ posts before you post.

Originally posted by xathil:

you are taking this totally out of context. read the list again. this is about THIS specific deck. its about heph in an EMPRESS pod spam. dracorex never comes into the picture. please go back and READ posts before you post.

Even so:

Originally posted by cfjem:

Originally posted by xathil:

what? i have no clue who you are moonfrost and nor do i really care. the issue with heph is a) beacon. valor + pierce = dead heph.
b) dredge+atlas?
c) gnasher?
d)heacles+svet?
e)pred+atlas?
the fact is dozens of things IN the current meta can kill heph before he can activate. absolutely NOTHING can kill BoD before it activates. much less before it regenerates once.

Uh what? 2 for 5. Good try.

A) Heph weakens UB 2, UB doesn’t attack. Heph lives.
B) Against any decent pod deck (with empress or dalia), those two combine for three damage, heph lives.
C) Ok, but its gasher, not gnasher.
D) Ok. But if the pod deck uses dalia instead of empress, possible fail.
E) Again, in any decent pod deck those two combine for three damage or less. Heph lives.

Yes, I’m considering it in a vacuum – just like you did. I could care less whether you use heph or bod. But to say heph is a significantly worse choice than bod is dumb. They both have different strengths. When combined with dalia, heph can help to effectively neuter your first 2+ drops.

Originally posted by ratchet500:<br /

The statement that nothing can kill BoD before activation is partially true, but only if you plop it down first. If you get it later, there’s no guarantee that it may be sieged/shot out in one turn, even with one regen, which in itself is not certain. However, placing Hephatat relatively late ensures that it is practically invincible. Add that to the one extra delay of BoD and no Weaken 2, and I’d rather use my LE Hephatat in most situations.

plopping down hephatat relatively late means you didnt need it in the first place.

Well i was lucky to get my Warp Sculptor and decide to build a deck based on his summon:P
So far i made something like this:

Little about Slug Borg: I know he may look useless but he got cleanse which help to protect sculptor + 5 Hp with evade. I think he will be great combo with sculptor:)

As u can see i still have some free solts and have no idea what to put there (maybe old, good Sunstrider Xolan? or mortar bunker to quicker rally?) Can u help me with that? ;)

Well, since you have those Sonar Sentries, maybe you could put one in there. If you put it next to Warp Sculptor the intercept can help keep it alive. Another possible addition could be Raksha. And although I saw you don’t have one, Eviscerator would be perfect in this deck.

I am going to make syco fear deck (got 4 Sycos and 2 Sonar Sentries, need only 5 more wb to adamanite armor) so I don’t want to put them here, any other ideas?