Hello Everyone, Over the weekend, we experienced an issue in the Guild Rumble that caused no guilds to be matched for the first two hours of round 10. Because this bug affected the score of some guilds, we previously announced that the planned changes to Rumble would be delayed to April 12. However, we received an overwhelming community response with the majority of players stating they prefer to have the Rumble changes on March 22, despite scores being affected. **We are happy to announce that we can move forward with the changes for March 22. ** As a reminder, these are the changes planned: * Previous Rumbles will be used to seed the following Rumble * Rewards will be revamped - [View Image for Details](https://cdn1.kongcdn.com/assets/files/0002/3005/032218-rumblerewards.PNG) * Battle times will be extended from 8 hours to 12 hours * Event will be shortened from 6 days to 5 days * Rematch prevention will be extended to every 4 matches * Minimum activity point requirements for rewards will be updated to encourage more activity at the lower tiers * Scoring changes: guilds will need to be ranked highly consistently throughout the event in order to place highly and earn the top rewards As guilds become accustomed to these changes, we want to reassure you that matchmaking, scoring, and seeding will be closely monitored for issues and we plan to make adjustments as needed. We apologize for any confusion or concerns that stemmed from this topic and thank each of you for sharing your feedback to help us improve. If you have any feedback or questions, please share here. Party on, Slurms! 

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Great news! Thanks!

Make that a hyper legendary card or slurm machine

I think it's the right call. A bit sad to see the 18 match format go away, but the scoring improvements are much needed. Thanks for responding to the sentiment of the community.

> *Originally posted by **[crimsontiger](/forums/727066/topics/1571277?page=1#12487044)**:* > I think it's the right call. A bit sad to see the 18 match format go away, but the scoring improvements are much needed. Thanks for responding to the sentiment of the community. I think going to 12 matches would have been better but as long as the 10 matches are against interesting opponents, that wouldn't be so bad. After all, a large # of the 18 matches can be against dead guilds in the current format.

What is the guild island

> *Originally posted by **[werenarc](/forums/727066/topics/1571277?page=1#12487047)**:* > > *Originally posted by **[crimsontiger](/forums/727066/topics/1571277?page=1#12487044)**:* > > I think it's the right call. A bit sad to see the 18 match format go away, but the scoring improvements are much needed. Thanks for responding to the sentiment of the community. > > I think going to 12 matches would have been better but as long as the 10 matches are against interesting opponents, that wouldn't be so bad. After all, a large # of the 18 matches can be against dead guilds in the current format. > Agreed. Trading quantity for quality will be worth it.

Wonderful news, thank you :D 

Thank you, Modchi.

Good decision. Hope the rewards werent changed to dog crap. I hope, cause you say its still TBA so it means you dontk now what rewards will be, if appropriate for us or not.

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That's promising... Just curious, any stats you can give on the survey? Such as how many responses and the outcome?

Yay for Mar 22!

great news! thx Modchi! 

i still think its stupid kongregate is giving in to all of the cry baby guilds whinning about sandbagging when this is a STRATEGY game not pay to win game but go ahead and work on increasing your wallet size kongregate

> *Originally posted by **[joshmernick1](/forums/727066/topics/1571277?page=1#12487048)**:* > What is the guild island That's what I wanna know

> *Originally posted by **[joshmernick1](/forums/727066/topics/1571277?page=1#12487048)**:* > What is the guild island As far as I know, it's currently just a visual update so that Siege and Rumble will not have separate islands. More info will be shared soon! > *Originally posted by **[sportakus1](/forums/727066/topics/1571277?page=1#12487083)**:* > Good decision. > > Hope the rewards werent changed to dog crap. I hope, cause you say its still TBA so it means you dontk now what rewards will be, if appropriate for us or not. The rewards should be an improvement, but I don't have the details yet. If we find that players are very unhappy and that is also shown player data/actions, we can revisit the topic. :) > *Originally posted by **[oilmanq](/forums/727066/topics/1571277?page=1#12487093)**:* > That's promising... Just curious, any stats you can give on the survey? Such as how many responses and the outcome? The survey did not include every single player, but less than 15% of voters were in support of the April 12 date. > All others... Thank you all, too! Glad to see this decision is mostly a crowd-pleaser :)

I just noticed you added another mom box icon thats pulsing and its next to TV icon, which we will see it everytime we visit main hub. Why?! Community said no, devs say yes?!

> *Originally posted by **[sportakus1](/forums/727066/topics/1571277?page=1#12487186)**:* > I just noticed you added another mom box icon thats pulsing and its next to TV icon, which we will see it everytime we visit main hub. > > Why?! Community said no, devs say yes?! This is off topic, but I'll leave it here. It's there to call more attention to the box with an exclamation point that resets each day to inform players when the price has reset to 25 Gems. Please redirect this discussion to another thread, so that this thead can keep it's focus on Rumble changes: [Another mom's box icon, really?](https://www.kongregate.com/forums/727068-technical-issues-feedback/topics/1571280-another-mom-box-icon-really?page=1#posts-12487185)

Thank you for listening to feedback and returning to the original date for new rumble format.

Very glad to hear this. Way to let the players be heard.

> *Originally posted by **[AlanD469](/forums/727066/topics/1571277?page=1#12487129)**:* > i still think its stupid kongregate is giving in to all of the cry baby guilds whinning about sandbagging when this is a STRATEGY game not pay to win game but go ahead and work on increasing your wallet size kongregate Why would they cater to people that don't pay to support their game... it would be a dumb business move, they're here to make money not to watch people like you not spend a dime and exploit the game so they can still get high rankings and free rewards... They didn't change it cuz of the crying only 3 guilds bagged for a long time Lotus legion so it wasn't a really bad noticeable problem last few months every f2p low level guild has done it and completely messed up the rankings and ruined it so you can thank your guild, yourself, and anyone else that has recently started bagging following after the lotus guilds.

Every mobile game anyone that pays or puts money into it has an advantage, if you don't like it spend money or quit... it's that simple. But to think cuz you don't spend a dime and are entitled to a high rank spot cuz you don't play your matches so you can play easy teams all rumble and call it strategy... then you are a little nutty, life doesn't work that way things aren't handed to you for free! Just cuz people spend money on the game doesn't mean they don't grind still and work just as hard as f2p players to get to where they need to be. I know alot of f2p players in top guilds that are doing just fine so maybe you need to get better?

From it's inception, Guild Rumbles were meant to be a fierce competition wherein guilds were rewarded for their **performance** and **participation**. It was clear that the devs missed the mark on this goal and eventually made plans to fix this. **Sandbagging was a symptom of a problematic event not working as intended**. I apologize to those who are unhappy with these changes. If you have some time, please share your feedback on what you did or did not like about the former system, what you do or do not like about the new system, and if you have some ideas for what to do instead, share those. However, please do not insult others for disagreeing with you. This is a forum meant to discuss a game and hopefully improve it; excessive negativity and toxicity detracts from this purpose. **Remember, even negative feedback or disagreeances between players can be shared respecfully. **