I'm feeling sceptical about this... 1) Please don't make Mythic only for paying user. Don't make the gap between F2P and PTW players bigger than he is now. It is already good as he is. F2P can not beat P2W and that's normal, but it seems that those new Mythic card will create a new game between big P2W players and "little" P2W users, make the gap between P2W and F2P discouraging. I know many player will begin the game and then "screw it, I'll never have those Mythic cards, I give up". Don't ruin the game. 2) Please Secret Fight Club non refillable. Remember the Brawl fiasco? If you make it refillable, Arena will be an everlasting Brawl. Worst idea ever if this is the case. 3) New Hero (Zap Brannigan): What about Consuela? 99% of the players don't have here above lvl 5, you didn't make enough events where we could find her.

This update worries me a ton. Sounds like it's gonna push the trust fund babies even higher up in strength while the free players are still barely able to get a handful of legendaries after months of grinding. Guess they don't care since they're not spending but I think this is gonna be final nail in coffin for a lot of free players. At the very least I'd suggest a regular way for free players to farm stones. Events and recycling legendaries won't help your average player much, I'm not gonna hold my breath though based on everything we've seen from the developers so far.

SO.....Should I trade in a legendary now, or will I not get fragments yet?

> _Originally posted by **[metalkiwis](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973063):**_ > > _Originally posted by **[thenutman69321](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10972834):**_ > > This update worries me a ton. Sounds like it's gonna push the trust fund babies even higher up in strength while the free players are still barely able to get a handful of legendaries after months of grinding. Guess they don't care since they're not spending but I think this is gonna be final nail in coffin for a lot of free players. At the very least I'd suggest a regular way for free players to farm stones. Events and recycling legendaries won't help your average player much, I'm not gonna hold my breath though based on everything we've seen from the developers so far. > > They already give you access to everything through the free gem offers. Plus ten gems daily is 300 a month. Jesus, you want them to pay the game for you too? > > Why do you expect the same experience as someone who decided to put their expendable income into this? You owe the people that pay for the very existence of the game, and all mobile crap games too. Just the licensing alone must be an ungodly amount with multiple properties. > > They should let the people that spend money permaban any of the leeches that whine about them. Oh boy 300 a month so you can't even do one pull from a box in one months time.. pretty pathetic attempt there.... also EVERY precombo card and EVERY special trait type legendary you have to pay for. He did not ask for them to play the game for him he expressed his concern with the upcoming update and you flew off the handle on him... sad

Btw 99% of ftp games make their revenue streams off of amounts of app downloads and AD REVENUE. The little amount of money they get from the few whales fails in comparison to the amount of money companies pay to have their ads placed in other games it's been that way since the beginning of the ftp app days.

> _Originally posted by **[DangitB0BBY](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973119):**_ > Btw 99% of ftp games make their revenue streams off of amounts of app downloads and AD REVENUE. The little amount of money they get from the few whales fails in comparison to the amount of money companies pay to have their ads placed in other games it's been that way since the beginning of the ftp app days. Here you go read the WHOLE thing companies want to keep ftp players around AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. So you wanting to ban ftp players would end this game quickly gj https://www.google.com/amp/business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/download-code-how-exactly-do-companies-make-money-off-free-to-play-games/amp?client=safari

> _Originally posted by **[DangitB0BBY](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973119):**_ > Btw 99% of ftp games make their revenue streams off of amounts of app downloads and AD REVENUE. The little amount of money they get from the few whales fails in comparison to the amount of money companies pay to have their ads placed in other games it's been that way since the beginning of the ftp app days. That's interesting because I've read articles about the loss most game take from the free players vs the money made of the few hundred that actually support the game in a big way. And if you think that was flying off the handle, I'm so very very sorry that you're such a sensitive lad. I sincerely hope I didn't trigger you too much.

> _Originally posted by **[DangitB0BBY](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973128):**_ > > _Originally posted by **[DangitB0BBY](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973119):**_ > > Btw 99% of ftp games make their revenue streams off of amounts of app downloads and AD REVENUE. The little amount of money they get from the few whales fails in comparison to the amount of money companies pay to have their ads placed in other games it's been that way since the beginning of the ftp app days. > > Here you go read the WHOLE thing companies want to keep ftp players around AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. So you wanting to ban ftp players would end this game quickly gj https://www.google.com/amp/business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/download-code-how-exactly-do-companies-make-money-off-free-to-play-games/amp?client=safari Did you even read what you linked? "Ads, however, aren’t usually enough to make the endeavor worthwhile" Free players are a leech. If they weren't, the business model would be to cater to the free players and make there no real advantage to micro transactions.

*munches popcorn* This will be enjoyable.

What ever happened to the days where games were hard and took time and effort to win?

5/5 stars for this drama

> _Originally posted by **[TheJuJoo](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973224):**_ > What ever happened to the days where games were hard and took time and effort to win? It's still a grind. I don't think there's anyone with a deck that's untouchable. Spending can just put you in the realm of all the other people that spend. And have phone games ever been good?

Really like I am hearing I can get epic shards from secret fight club. But I hope I have chance get decent amount and hope the system is not falwed/lazy put that you can win free shards for paying real money into game to be OP

> _Originally posted by **[Alex2651](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973232):**_ > 5/5 stars for this drama I think you mean 5/100 star fragments earned. We'll have to open more packs to unlock all the drama stars.

> _Originally posted by **[metalkiwis](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973165):**_ > > _Originally posted by **[DangitB0BBY](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973128):**_ > > > _Originally posted by **[DangitB0BBY](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973119):**_ > > > Btw 99% of ftp games make their revenue streams off of amounts of app downloads and AD REVENUE. The little amount of money they get from the few whales fails in comparison to the amount of money companies pay to have their ads placed in other games it's been that way since the beginning of the ftp app days. > > > > Here you go read the WHOLE thing companies want to keep ftp players around AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. So you wanting to ban ftp players would end this game quickly gj https://www.google.com/amp/business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/download-code-how-exactly-do-companies-make-money-off-free-to-play-games/amp?client=safari > > Did you even read what you linked? > > "Ads, however, aren’t usually enough to make the endeavor worthwhile" > > Free players are a leech. If they weren't, the business model would be to cater to the free players and make there no real advantage to micro transactions. Funny how I told you to read the ENTIRE thing and he reads just the first paragraph smh.

So has anyone recycled a legendary and gotten mythic fragments or what ?!?

> _Originally posted by **[DangitB0BBY](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973254):**_ > > _Originally posted by **[metalkiwis](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973165):**_ > > > _Originally posted by **[DangitB0BBY](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973128):**_ > > > > _Originally posted by **[DangitB0BBY](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973119):**_ > > > > Btw 99% of ftp games make their revenue streams off of amounts of app downloads and AD REVENUE. The little amount of money they get from the few whales fails in comparison to the amount of money companies pay to have their ads placed in other games it's been that way since the beginning of the ftp app days. > > > > > > Here you go read the WHOLE thing companies want to keep ftp players around AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. So you wanting to ban ftp players would end this game quickly gj https://www.google.com/amp/business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/download-code-how-exactly-do-companies-make-money-off-free-to-play-games/amp?client=safari > > > > Did you even read what you linked? > > > > "Ads, however, aren’t usually enough to make the endeavor worthwhile" > > > > Free players are a leech. If they weren't, the business model would be to cater to the free players and make there no real advantage to micro transactions. > > Funny how I told you to read the ENTIRE thing and he reads just the first paragraph smh. Well yeah. You're not the boss of me. I made it far enough, if they come back to contradict that then the article isn't worth reading anyway.

> _Originally posted by **[JamesD2041](/forums/726779/topics/701900?page=2#10973261):**_ > So has anyone recycled a legendary and gotten mythic fragments or what ?!? No they are not available quite yet but will be soon as smm mentioned.