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Hello everyone!
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# Arena Win/Loss Points Rebalancing
The team is reviewing SFC (Secret Fight Club) and will be rebalancing points gained/lost per battle soon. The team is continuing to review Arena and further updates may be announced at a later date.
# Motivate Bug Fix
The team has found a bug related to Motivate which should be fixed in an upcoming update. The bug has been reproduced as such:
"If a card with motivate dies and you play another card with motivate in its place then the activation of the new motivate will be delayed a round because it thinks those cards are motivated already."
Other minor bugs may also be included.
As always, thank you for continuing to report any technical or account issues you may have experienced. You can reach our support team either via the K icon in game or by following the link below:
https://animationthrowdown.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
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- ShinyMetalMod
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Good Lord, do NOT reduce the number of points lost in SFC, it's better as it is. People wanting to lose less points have no clue what they are asking for.
And LOL @ the team "finding" that bug. Players have been complaining about it for a long time.
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> _Originally posted by **[tsm1989](/forums/726779/topics/775136?page=1#11280959):**_
> Good Lord, do NOT reduce the number of points lost in SFC, it's better as it is. People wanting to lose less points have no clue what they are asking for.
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> And LOL @ the team "finding" that bug. Players have been complaining about it for a long time.
I think Shiny probably means they found the line of code that is causing the bug to occur.
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When you lose, you have -29..... Hope will be -5
Hate -29
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> *Originally posted by **[AndreaM650](/forums/727066/topics/775136?page=1#11281333)**:*
> When you lose, you have -29..... Hope will be -5
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> Hate -29
Losing more points means going against easier opponents, which means winning a higher percentage of matches and getting more rewards (coins, tokens and stones). I don't know why people have such a hard time seeing that.
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Shiny may be referring to the number of brawl points? Not SFC crowns? I'm not sure...
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Look at the Leaderboard Rank in SFC. Rank 1-6 able to score 8k because of the "leapfrogging".
Reset the SFC every month / every new BGE. This reset will solve that problem.
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> _Originally posted by **[tsm1989](/forums/726779/topics/775136?page=1#11280959):**_
> Good Lord, do NOT reduce the number of points lost in SFC, it's better as it is. People wanting to lose less points have no clue what they are asking for.
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> And LOL @ the team "finding" that bug. Players have been complaining about it for a long time.
Somebody sounds scared of some competition. This need to be reevaluated, thank you Shiny!!!
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> *Originally posted by **[tsm1989](/forums/727066/topics/775136?page=1#11280959)**:*
> Good Lord, do NOT reduce the number of points lost in SFC, it's better as it is. People wanting to lose less points have no clue what they are asking for.
For me, it's not the amount of points I lose that annoys me, it's the frequency. I don't care how you make your game, I want to win a LOT more often than I lose.
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> *Originally posted by **[Iambender](/forums/727066/topics/775136?page=1#11283700)**:*
> > _Originally posted by **[tsm1989](/forums/726779/topics/775136?page=1#11280959):**_
> > Good Lord, do NOT reduce the number of points lost in SFC, it's better as it is. People wanting to lose less points have no clue what they are asking for.
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> > And LOL @ the team "finding" that bug. Players have been complaining about it for a long time.
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> Somebody sounds scared of some competition. This need to be reevaluated, thank you Shiny!!!
It's not about competition. It's simple math. Would you rather your win:loss ratio be 3:1 or 1:1?
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Losing more points does NOT mean going against easier opponents when there is a huge range of possible ranks you can face. If I sit at 1100 and lose to someone at 1270...lose 29 then face the same opponent and lose another 29! How is that acceptable? This guy remains at 1270 and I am now down to 1042...And could still face the guy at 1270. Have they copped to where they have the actual range set? +/- 50 sounds reasonable if you are losing 29 and only gaining 12 or 13.
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> *Originally posted by **[1Platdiamond1](/forums/727066/topics/775136?page=1#11281670)**:*
> There's gotta be a different and better way. I like seeing who I'm facing. I practice and find the easier ones, mainly I can win. Now without that I'm going to lose more than win. Why not just make it random. Anyone that's in fight club not just around your rank.
Because it's meant to get progressively more difficult.
I stand by my earlier assertion that they should quantify the number of watts in a deck to choose opponents. 25 cards x 300 watts (just a placeholder number, something like a dual epic maxed) = a 7500 watt deck, or a deck strength of "75". Let me play +/- 15% of my watt strength and award more or fewer crowns based on the strength of my victory.
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> *Originally posted by **[Mreed911](/forums/727066/topics/775136?page=1#11302124)**:*
> > *Originally posted by **[1Platdiamond1](/forums/727066/topics/775136?page=1#11281670)**:*
> > There's gotta be a different and better way. I like seeing who I'm facing. I practice and find the easier ones, mainly I can win. Now without that I'm going to lose more than win. Why not just make it random. Anyone that's in fight club not just around your rank.
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> Because it's meant to get progressively more difficult.
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> I stand by my earlier assertion that they should quantify the number of watts in a deck to choose opponents. 25 cards x 300 watts (just a placeholder number, something like a dual epic maxed) = a 7500 watt deck, or a deck strength of "75". Let me play +/- 15% of my watt strength and award more or fewer crowns based on the strength of my victory.
It's not a bad idea, but inherently flawed. How do you weight PC vs Non PC watts? A maxed deck is a maxed deck. And not all legendaries are created equal.
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> *Originally posted by **[stanima](/forums/727066/topics/775136?page=1#11302176)**:*
> It's not a bad idea, but inherently flawed. How do you weight PC vs Non PC watts? A maxed deck is a maxed deck. And not all legendaries are created equal.
That leaves some choice up to the player - are you willing to put a certain card in your deck knowing it bumps up your deck strength or do you replace it with something else. At least it's quantifiable.
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I guess speed vs power is the choice there and deck strength would essentially be the same. But the whales will argue they "paid" more for the PC's.
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I lost 70 in one shot and trust me the opponents I get aren't any easier than before.... and if you beat somebody at higher ranks then the points should go up dramatically and they don't. tested out 10 matches and 9 of them were all in the top 5 guilds... so not sure why people are saying the matches got easier so the win ratio is higher... this is false. Plus if you get a really bad draw of all characters against a lower rank...bad luck.. now you've lost 70 pts based on luck.. .that sucks.
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> _Originally posted by **[tsm1989](/forums/726779/topics/775136?page=1#11280959):**_
> Good Lord, do NOT reduce the number of points lost in SFC, it's better as it is. People wanting to lose less points have no clue what they are asking for.
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> And LOL @ the team "finding" that bug. Players have been complaining about it for a long time.
Put down the crystal and think about what you typed about the points. Do you even play? Because with a statement like that, I highly doubt it.
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Even after doing more testing blowing arena refills... yeah this is a horrible change... I"m not winning any more often... the max I ever get for a win is 13... if I draw somebody lower I get 6 crowns... yet I never lose less than 29... and now it's alot more.... I"ve dropped so far down testing it out.... this is utter BS nobody is gonna play in SFC anymore they really messed things up!
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