Endurance help at lower levels?

Well, I’m back, the guy who asks questions that has been answered in several other thread, but is too lazy to look at each strategy and compare them to my own!

I’m level 716, (6727 points if that matters?) I’ve done the pylon trick on all the levels (just not maxed out yet). I’m getting to the point where I can do All Bosses + tenfold. but I’m unable to even do All Armored + increased difficulty.

So maybe there’s a level where I can do endurance? I’ve tried a few from the threads I’ve found but maybe I’m doing it wrong? Or maybe I’m just not the right level yet? (P5 is still hard as hell, tenfold all armored is not gonna happen for a good bit)

kong won’t let me embed imgur links…. http://imgur.com/Yd3yB
that’s my overall stat look.
plz ignore the fact wild gem has 0 points lol.

If you can giants, why armored? skip them.

Because on the upper pylon levels I can’t do giants+tenfold, but I can do Armored+tenfold, mainly because for the pylon trick I use red gems, with more monsters overall, all armored makes it so once i get past wave 20 or so, i’m home free.

skip red gems; yellow is far far better. take out all your skill points from red. Go down about 100 levels in replenish. max out wild gem and sell it at the beginning of the level. Max out ritual, recharge, radiance, and shrines. THEN put whatever you have leftover in the three unlimited skills in whatever arrangement you like.

If you’re trying an endurance run for the first time, don’t do waves get tougher faster. Turn on everything else and see if you can do that. Definitely do giants only + tenfold.

Yea for endurance I do Y/L/O, but what % should my replenish be at? I figured for higher levels it’s nice to have it in the +200-300%.

Since kills will be your primary source of mana in the start, that’s where Replenish becomes important – each kill gives more mana, so angering gives a higher mana return. However, Replenish does not help Orange gems steal more mana, so Replenish is far less important once a good mana farm is set up, particularly late into an Endurance run when gem duplication costs are very high compared to mana gained per kill.

Between beginning mana vs Dmg %.

What would a good ratio be? I’ve been keeping them equal based on cost (atm both level ups require 30)

I have mine at 173 atm, with focus at 136 (more important because of mana farms), and resonance at 106. I’m only level 559, but I could do endurance without WGTF on certain maps more than 200 levels ago. My first one was M10, with faster monsters, shadow clash, and WGTF off, but everything else on. But, at this point you should be able to handle a shadow no problem by wave 20, as well as faster monsters.

Maps B8 C7 and B9 are probably the best for a first endurance run. Im not sur ewhat your doing wrong but i manged to pull get past wave 300 on full settings endurance (I had to go so had no choice but kill myself) at about level 350. I guess i could have went on to 1337 because I had a steady mana growth and all my gems way over levle 20. I dont want to sound boastful (If this is even good…) But Im not sure what you are doing wrong… Not summoning enough maybe. Because you need to do ALOT of it.

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Have you considered investing in Ritual? If you’ve got a decent amount of battle amulets (which, judging by your level, you should have), it’s pretty decent.

Originally posted by Gku99:

P5 is still hard as hell, tenfold all armored is not gonna happen for a good bit

there is no P5

Originally posted by anakin2177:

Have you considered investing in Ritual? If you’ve got a decent amount of battle amulets (which, judging by your level, you should have), it’s pretty decent.

80 points is all it takes to max out ritual. Focus adds about 7.5% to your initial mana and pool size for each level at 173… so 80 points going into Focus gets you .075*300*2.66666666… (pretending that you could do a partial level) is 60 mana. In order for ritual to be worth those 80 points, you’d need exactly 300 battle amulets. More likely you have something like 4000.

Originally posted by calvindang:

Originally posted by Gku99:

P5 is still hard as hell, tenfold all armored is not gonna happen for a good bit

there is no P5

ah there is P5, Pylon 5 is what i meant, as of the other pylons.

Originally posted by superxchloe:

Originally posted by anakin2177:

Have you considered investing in Ritual? If you’ve got a decent amount of battle amulets (which, judging by your level, you should have), it’s pretty decent.

80 points is all it takes to max out ritual. Focus adds about 7.5% to your initial mana and pool size for each level at 173… so 80 points going into Focus gets you .075*300*2.66666666… (pretending that you could do a partial level) is 60 mana. In order for ritual to be worth those 80 points, you’d need exactly 300 battle amulets. More likely you have something like 4000.

I hope to god you’re wrong about his amount of battle amulets … from the looks of it, I’d say he’s probably around L6-700 or so. I’m almost 1500 and have less than 3K battle amulets o0

I hit 3k battle amulets around level 150…
I’m level 561 now but I haven’t played much the last couple weeks, and I’m at almost 5k.

I’m level 1415, and I only have 5.2k Battle amulets…