WHY THİS GAME UNFAİR A LOT???

İ have developers of game.they make huge difference between normal players and cog players .
who are cog players everyone can understand ;if u want u be cog player u have to buy gold, use wheel of fortune (which cost 50g ),u must be vip u must buy gem box and mat box like this.

these spenders whom i named cog player dropped better and get enjoy game .and other players like me (not buy gold or less then others ) are just cookies for cog players.

i spend my lots of time in game and i saw thet all time and i saw that developers will never make game fair . this is a game this must get people good time not only for gold spenders .i hate all developers and i hate myself to spent my lots of time this unfair game .i hope i day you will stop that and respect other game lovers

the last 3 day i did a total of 10-12 dungeon i get a destroyer ring. i open 88 Gold treasure chest 4 and got 2 tremor diagram ad 2 orange book( book is useless btw) and i did atleast 6 abyss and i got a total of 1 envy spaulder

Originally posted by zden:

İ have developers of game.they make huge difference between normal players and cog players .
who are cog players everyone can understand ;if u want u be cog player u have to buy gold, use wheel of fortune (which cost 50g ),u must be vip u must buy gem box and mat box like this.

these spenders whom i named cog player dropped better and get enjoy game .and other players like me (not buy gold or less then others ) are just cookies for cog players.

i spend my lots of time in game and i saw thet all time and i saw that developers will never make game fair . this is a game this must get people good time not only for gold spenders .i hate all developers and i hate myself to spent my lots of time this unfair game .i hope i day you will stop that and respect other game lovers

Hi, we are sorry to hear that. The rate of getting good items is the same to all players. We always try our best to make COG get better and better and we sincerely may you good luck next time. Thanks for your understanding.

if u think i am wrong ask other player its real that gold spenders and wheel users get beter and much drop from dungeons and bosses .its short time issue i play at 8th server and i am in top5 and i observe drops from dungeon bosses and abbys boss drops and and red heros come from dungeons . it is clearly seen that these is a msj in game ;if u want to enjoy game u must spent gold ,if u want drop u have to spent gold.

u can see how long i am user of kong and how many times i complain something but its really very unfair , i am sorry to play this game too much.

stop hating dude. be happy with what you got. spinning the wheel will get you so far.

i said that i we want to fair game we have to spent gold for wheels .i am not.earn money to buy lots of credit or gold

what is a fair game . where everyone get the same item? i am not sure you know what you asking

whats your nick in server8?
.i think u dont play in server8 or u are 1of cog players. if u couldnt see big difference u have a serious problem

Interestingly, all of those uses of gold in the OP are horribly inefficient ways to allocate your $$$. It’s possible to be strong in this game without spending… you just have to hustle to bring the G in, and think hard before every purchase you make.

The upside of CoG being horribly greedy, from a free players perspective, is that the ways to waste Gold are legion. The ways to use Gold well are less so. A free player will never be as strong as someone who spends $10,000, no matter how much of that is wasted, but you can certainly have fun, level, get strong, and look back from level 100 and laugh at all that gold wasted on slots for midlevel OJ gear.

this is a patience game. play the game dont let the game play you.

1.wheel is trash,for old server it’s useless
most equip on wheel can be get in end game,only lv95 pot hero is unique,but not necessary

2.you can’t compare abyss drop,you only do 2.25 and the date show 8/3 few days ago,compare with some ppl do 3.10 and 3.20 everyday?ofc they can get good item
though you’re top 5 but your item set up really bad,you need hunt boss but you still add lot def gem on tank and agi gem on agi hero,that why you’re weak in abyss,even my quit non-spender friend’s lv85 alt stronger than you,I believe you’re hard to do d9h,farm d9h is important for mid-game.
after I do 4.5 or 4.10 everyday,I can get red item or oj trans near everyday easily.

3.about drop,vincent is non-spender,he got over 12 red card many months ago
he got at least 3 (or 4?)full berial set now.

4.in the end game,spender is not strong like mid-game in alliance war anymore,your alliance has most ppl,so you don’t worry about it.

I only agree cog don’t give any way to get gold,I believe it’s because they can’t solve alts problem completely

If you don’t farm gold from AH,or no spender in the game anymore,I don’t know how to play content over lv100,you can use 1slot item do d11h?
near impossible,maybe with super red item you can do it,but you’ve no chance to get it,because you can’t do any boss to get good item.

I’m non-spender but I don’t think pay to win game is wrong,if you pay you still lost lot,it’s very strange
look cotd and loh,spender has more epic cards,they slay non-spender more easier than the game
but both game still very popular

Originally posted by DaemonVower:

Interestingly, all of those uses of gold in the OP are horribly inefficient ways to allocate your $$$. It’s possible to be strong in this game without spending… you just have to hustle to bring the G in, and think hard before every purchase you make.

The upside of CoG being horribly greedy, from a free players perspective, is that the ways to waste Gold are legion. The ways to use Gold well are less so. A free player will never be as strong as someone who spends $10,000, no matter how much of that is wasted, but you can certainly have fun, level, get strong, and look back from level 100 and laugh at all that gold wasted on slots for midlevel OJ gear.

DV:
You are correct. I have loads of old equipment with 5 or 6 open slots. That will ultimately be the downfall of this game. CoG contiunes to fail to provide a method for gold spenders to recoup a portion of their investment for gold previously spent be it a rebate or unbinding.

I think someone who spends more money then me deserves extra advantages but I’ve also seen money spenders complain when they see free players getting better items then them so their is opportunities for free players as well most of it comes down to time and patience, If you don’t want to spend you have to be patient and the items will come eventually.

Originally posted by acoaco:

1.wheel is trash,for old server it’s useless
most equip on wheel can be get in end game,only lv95 pot hero is unique,but not necessary

2.you can’t compare abyss drop,you only do 2.25 and the date show 8/3 few days ago,compare with some ppl do 3.10 and 3.20 everyday?ofc they can get good item
though you’re top 5 but your item set up really bad,you need hunt boss but you still add lot def gem on tank and agi gem on agi hero,that why you’re weak in abyss,even my quit non-spender friend’s lv85 alt stronger than you,I believe you’re hard to do d9h,farm d9h is important for mid-game.

after I do 4.5 or 4.10 everyday,I can get red item or oj trans near everyday easily.

3.about drop,vincent is non-spender,he got over 12 red card many months ago
he got at least 3 (or 4?)full berial set now.

4.in the end game,spender is not strong like mid-game in alliance war anymore,your alliance has most ppl,so you don’t worry about it.

I only agree cog don’t give any way to get gold,I believe it’s because they can’t solve alts problem completely

If you don’t farm gold from AH,or no spender in the game anymore,I don’t know how to play content over lv100,you can use 1slot item do d11h?
near impossible,maybe with super red item you can do it,but you’ve no chance to get it,because you can’t do any boss to get good item.

I’m non-spender but I don’t think pay to win game is wrong,if you pay you still lost lot,it’s very strange
look cotd and loh,spender has more epic cards,they slay non-spender more easier than the game
but both game still very popular

1- wheel isnt useless now we arent in the end of the game you can get red hero and item from wheel you can understand how that will make difference with others.
2-i am doing d9h 6 times everyday and going abbys everyday too and not everyday drop red .i couldnt see orange item too 3day means 18dungeon 3abbys i couldnt see orange item how could u explain its normal?
and about my items:if nothing good drop you cant make good set if you dont cheat like your alliance.your alliance sell t3s at ah and make gold buy item or use wheel or gem box.u said u use def gem on def hero are u using defand gems on attack hero and attack gems on defens hero? sure i will use defens gems on tanks
3-i dont know who is vincent and i dont care i play at 8th server and talking only about my server you should talk too
4-if u only want to strong at the end of the game its your problem.

1.if spender pay money on the game still can’t got good item,how cog get money to maintain the game?
In fact our wheel already trash,it’s won’t affect end game.so you’ve chance to get better item.it’s good for non-spender
If it’s TW server’s wheel,I believe you already rage quit.3FD items on big wheel,equip it can easily kill 20 ppl like you in a row

2.In abyss only after 2.25 drop red.D9H red drop rate about 5%,18run not very large number,cog’s drop system not like you think,5run=1oj or 100run=5red.
sometimes it’s will happen,when I’m still do d8h,30run all purple,when I’ve enough power do d9h,I got 2red hero in 20run.

about def
http://www.kongregate.com/forums/86-call-of-gods/topics/255657-def-and-vit-issue-answer-me-call-of-gods
I don’t know why in s8,so many ppl focus on def,vit can work on both but you still choice def.
accuracy too,it’s won’t affect your real accuracy.I’ve compare at least 10 replay on same abyss floor,the result is a avg 300 accuracy player has higher hit rate than a avg 1800 accuracy player.
same agi,though agi is important in PvP,but if you don’t spend on slot,atk still has highest priority for every main atk hero,included agi hero unless you use it on tank

your item is good enough to farm 3.5 or 3.10,but wrong gem make you weak miss 2 chance get red per run,if you use right gem I believe you already got some abyss red and this post won’t appear

3.I just want to express even you’re non-spender you still has chance to get good item,not like you wrote “cog player dropped better”,I bet 95% spenders get less berial item than vincent.
though I know s8 has less big spender than s4,so it’s more hard to become strong,in s4’s mid game,you can sell many oj items get gold.

s8 seems to have a lot of whiners.

What’s up with that.

Hi, we are sorry to hear that. The rate of getting good items is the same to all players. We always try our best to make COG get better and better and we sincerely may you good luck next time. Thanks for your understanding.

yeah well i think this is utter crap i have a lvl102 in s5, i spend in excess of $300 every month on cog i am vip, i spin the wheel, i buy crap loads out in game gold shop, i do advanced transmutes,,, and my drop rate is abysmal i do 6 dungeons a day, 3 paid for and 2 abyss a day 1 paid for yet cant so much as show a single red item for it let alone 2 shitty (in comparison to how much i’ve done) red card heros… i refuse to spend another cent on kongregate call of gods until my drops start reflecting the cash i invest in this game i am lvl102 and received my 1st red hero at lvl100 i have never gotten a single red item drop so the thing of it being a R.N.G is bullshit because there r some players who just get red drops/heros nonstop and if cog admin/devs cant ensure a decent drop rate for those who spend hard earned money on the game then they shouldn’t have a pay to advance system because i’ve paid and paid some more yet received nothing in return… so new mission would be stop spending until this game or the devs pull their fingers out their arseholes and do something about the complacent manner in which certain spenders and even non-spenders are gaining the means to progress in game!!!

10 August 2012

6 dungeons today 2 king bardors gems, 1 book of astrology, 1 destroyer (purple boots) and 2 pendants of woeful memory…., woeful indeed!!!

2 abyss runs 1 envy helm and 1 envy spaulders…. i hunt thru to room 3.20 everytime…

now justify my expense cause i sure as hell cant.

i was thinking of putting some gold into this also but after the drop rate i got no thank you it a waste of time. the drop rate have been crap the pass 4 day. i burn throught 30 gold key today and end up with useless item lol. usually i get atleast 1 orange item when i do 3-4 dungeon a day and 2 abyss maybe 2 orange item but this pass 4 day i hardly get 1 orange per day and i went throught 120 gold chest 4 and what i got is useless stuff that doesnt work

10 August 2012

6 dungeons today 2 king bardors gems, 1 book of astrology, 1 destroyer (purple boots) and 2 pendants of woeful memory…., woeful indeed!!!

2 abyss runs 1 envy helm and 1 envy spaulders…. i hunt thru to room 3.20 everytime…

now justify my expense cause i sure as hell cant.

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First, I’m a cash player.

Second, I’ve only seen a red drop in abyss from 3.25 and up.

Third, as for the d9h dungeon that you’re talking about, I did 6 dungeons every day for about 3 weeks (that’s over 120 runs) and 90% of items were destroyers or pendants. Only 2 red dropped for me during that time. The few oj items that dropped were useless. I see other people doing dungeons and get more oj gems then I do but I don’t complain.

-boiler s7

Originally posted by boiler13183:

10 August 2012

6 dungeons today 2 king bardors gems, 1 book of astrology, 1 destroyer (purple boots) and 2 pendants of woeful memory…., woeful indeed!!!

2 abyss runs 1 envy helm and 1 envy spaulders…. i hunt thru to room 3.20 everytime…

now justify my expense cause i sure as hell cant.

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First, I’m a cash player.

Second, I’ve only seen a red drop in abyss from 3.25 and up.

Third, as for the d9h dungeon that you’re talking about, I did 6 dungeons every day for about 3 weeks (that’s over 120 runs) and 90% of items were destroyers or pendants. Only 2 red dropped for me during that time. The few oj items that dropped were useless. I see other people doing dungeons and get more oj gems then I do but I don’t complain.

-boiler s7

Dear player, regarding this problem, we have explained many times, it’s only one drop rate problem. Thank you for playing our game.

Cog answer this if there is only one drop rate why are there players that have 15 red heros at level 105 and other players that have none at level 105?? Players that have 7 – 10 berials and players that have none such as myself……. I run 2 abyss everyday and have gotten no berials at all…….

still i get destroyer boot and purple pendant from koi koi .what kind of drop rate is that ?.its about buying gold it seems until i buy gold i will never drop red hero card from koi koi .i really hate this game i try to be patiance but drop rate isnt same for everryone . dont be mean to no gold buyers…

it not about buying gold they change the drop rate zden they lower to the point of bs.

I can confirm it too, though im not considered as “lucky”. Mainly with red gems, after many tries, ive seen a lot either a lot of fails in a row, or multiple success in a few tries. And sometimes, when it doesnt come, it is better to wait.. latest example was a 1300g or so failed in a row in adv trans + the oj gems destroyed during half a day.