> *Originally posted by **[why\_amihere](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=15#posts-9685324):*** > > Isn’t Mabinogion needed for that build? > > Or did they also change Grand balance without saying anything in the full patch note? > > Please don’t quote an entire long post directly below said post. It’s completely unnecessary – see how I edited mine? > > Why would Mabinogion be required? Grand Balance wasn’t changed, but Halls of Legends were improved drastically to let GB hit a different building. Mabinogion gives a small increase to the effectiveness of GB – but much less than a x20 bonus or anything like that which might make it worthwhile. Sorry, about that. I had forgotten how much weaker than other building HoL was. Now that i think about it, it’s indeed a really huge boost.

> *Originally posted by **[mpizza1](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=15#posts-9685347):*** > > *Originally posted by **[why\_amihere](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=15#posts-9685233):*** > > > > A Neutral build based on the fact that Grand Balance is now the best spell that affects buildings after Lightning Strike: > > > > **ZenStrike** > > Holy crap.. I just tried this on R12, went from 44Spd gems to 1Ocd in 11 mins. Amazing build. Damn… That is good! At really high building counts Grand Balance is now better than Lightning Strike, and you can certainly compare it to Dwarven Pickaxe comfortably now, so non-growing Luck builds are viable again at high gems and high reincarnation values. And it’s available to all Alignments, so that’s awesome! EDIT: Next project build should be a long-term grower that uses Grand Balance. I’m thinking about Cialis but replacing Lightning Strike (and putting Druidic Vocabulary in there), and doing a ton of excavations to set it up. It only actually needs about 38/39 mana/s to work because of the natural delay between autocasted spells. Anyone who wants to make it for me gets to name it!

> *Originally posted by **[why\_amihere](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685404):*** > > Damn… That is good! > > At really high building counts Grand Balance is now better than Lightning Strike, and you can certainly compare it to Dwarven Pickaxe comfortably now, so non-growing Luck builds are viable again at high gems and high reincarnation values. And it’s available to all Alignments, so that’s awesome! Just tested it against Fairystrike, and ZenStrike’s is a bit more than 10x better, so… yeah… amazing build!

Hello,i tried a new build for the 100B FC trophy, i think i could be improved but it seemed to work so far. I used it at r7 ; 4.5 E48 gems. 100B FC is doable in 5h to 10h depending how active you are. Tax CollecTax : Range : R7 Characteristics : Gives a lot of FC (2.8M FC per TC cast without FC, 17M with FC+DP) Alignment Neutral Spells Fairy Chanting Diamond Pickaxe Tier 1 Upgrades Elven (1,1): Elven Mint Elven (1,2): Elven Treasure Casing Dwarf (1,2): Expert Masonry Angel (1,3): Angel Feathers Tier 2 Upgrades Elven (2,1): Elven Emissary Ange (2,3): Angelic Wisdom Faceless (2,2): Mitosis Druid (2,3): Shapeshifting Tier 3 Upgrades Elven (3,1): Elven Diplomacy Goblin (3,1): Goblin Central Bank Faceless (3,1): Magical Treasure Fairy (3,3): Swarm of Fairies Harlequin Bonus : 343% Bloodline : Elven Instructions : wait to be full mana and use FC+DP and spam TC, or if you only have Priority Autocasting leave it with 1-2 on FC-TC. (sorry for the lack of bold and underline, it’s the first time i post and i don’t know hot to do it)

Due to the new HoL upgrades, I’ve tried my hand at an HoL boosting build. It’s a first draft so if anyone can verify and/or improve (or come up with a good name!), please do. **Note:** _This is based on the new update (Version 1.3.34) and will no doubt be terrible if you haven’t refreshed your game._ Range R12 to ??? Characteristics - Fast bursty build with better gem gains than most \*-strike builds due to the 1.3.34 update. - Suffers from extremely low mana regen. - Does not rely on LS. Requires - R12 for the max mana boost Alignment Evil Spells - Night Time - Hellfire Blast Tier 1 Upgrades - Goblin (1, 1): Strong Currency - Titan (1, 3): Oversized Legends - Druid (1, 1): Druidic Vocabulary - Dwarves (1, 3): Mining Prodigies Tier 2 Upgrades - Demon (2, 3): Demonic Presence - Titan (2, 3): Cyclopean Strength - Faceless (2, 3): Overgrowth - Drow (2, 2): Blood Sacrifices Tier 3 Upgrades - Demon (3, 3): Very Bad Guys - Druid (3, 3): Building Jungle - Dwarves (3, 1): Battlehammers - Drow (3, 2): Professional Assistants Harlequin Bonus 343% Bloodline Titan or Drow Instructions Quickly build up, using Excavations for FC, until reaching at least 2200 max mana (any more is highly preferred). You can now start combo casting CtA + NT + HB, adding a TC or two if and when you can afford this. Clicks are useless here, TC and normal production get you everything. Abdicate whenever. **Edit:** A quick test shows the build may be possible at high-end R11 gems (Ocd to Nod), you’d basically just get 0 TC. Might need some more verifying though.

Wouldn’t Rainbow Link or Swarm of Fairies be better than Professional Assassins? Apart from that it looks solid, I’ll give it a try next time I abdicate. Also, since the build is a passive one, I think Drow might be better than Titan bloodline for overnight gains.

> *Originally posted by **[Audaces](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685713):*** > > Wouldn’t Rainbow Link be better than Professional Assassins? Apart from that it looks solid, I’ll give it a try next time I abdicate. Depends on your Excavation count, for me Professional Assistants was better. If you’re going to keep a low Excavation count, then Rainbow Link can be (slightly) better.

> *Originally posted by **[GeneralYouri](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685716):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Audaces](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685713):*** > > > > Wouldn’t Rainbow Link be better than Professional Assassins? Apart from that it looks solid, I’ll give it a try next time I abdicate. > > Depends on your Excavation count, for me Professional Assistants was better. If you’re going to keep a low Excavation count, then Rainbow Link can be (slightly) better. Sorry, but how is excavations count related to assistants production in this build? I’ve honestly no idea where the connection is.

> *Originally posted by **[Audaces](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685724):*** > > *Originally posted by **[GeneralYouri](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685716):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[Audaces](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685713):*** > > > > > > Wouldn’t Rainbow Link be better than Professional Assassins? Apart from that it looks solid, I’ll give it a try next time I abdicate. > > > > Depends on your Excavation count, for me Professional Assistants was better. If you’re going to keep a low Excavation count, then Rainbow Link can be (slightly) better. > > Sorry, but how is excavations count related to assistants production in this build? I’ve honestly no idea where the connection is. Err, right I confused myself for a second. In that case, Professional Assistants is strictly better for me then.

> *Originally posted by **[GeneralYouri](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685716):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Audaces](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685713):*** > > > > Wouldn’t Rainbow Link be better than Professional Assassins? Apart from that it looks solid, I’ll give it a try next time I abdicate. > > Depends on your Excavation count, for me Professional Assistants was better. If you’re going to keep a low Excavation count, then Rainbow Link can be (slightly) better. i reached fast 10 Vg Gems with R13, but then its slowly. Maybe some edits for better run ? By the way i had R13 and 300 Vg Gems on me

> *Originally posted by **[GeneralYouri](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685707):*** > > Due to the new HoL upgrades, I’ve tried my hand at an HoL boosting build. It’s a first draft so if anyone can verify and/or improve (or come up with a good name!), please do. Doesn’t seem to be appreciably better than ye olde sleepynaries build in r12. Both are stuck around e59

For the Pyrastrike, how much would change if you swapped Professional Assassins with Goblin Central Bank? Since the aim of the build seems to be getting a lucky shot with lightning then dumping all the remaining mana into Tax Collections, wouldn’t doubling the number of collections be better than the bonus from the Professional Assassins? Sorry if this has been suggested before and I missed it on my blitz through the thread.

Does anyone know if Dan is still managing this thread? If not we could move the builds to the wiki. [http://realm-grinder.wikia.com/wiki/List\_of\_Base\_Merc\_Builds](http://realm-grinder.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Base_Merc_Builds)

> *Originally posted by **[serapheus](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9686049):*** > > For the Pyrastrike, how much would change if you swapped Professional Assassins with Goblin Central Bank? Since the aim of the build seems to be getting a lucky shot with lightning then dumping all the remaining mana into Tax Collections, wouldn’t doubling the number of collections be better than the bonus from the Professional Assassins? > > Sorry if this has been suggested before and I missed it on my blitz through the thread. Why double when you can get 20x or more out of professional assassins?

> *Originally posted by **[disastranagant](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685951):*** > > *Originally posted by **[GeneralYouri](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685707):*** > > > > Due to the new HoL upgrades, I’ve tried my hand at an HoL boosting build. It’s a first draft so if anyone can verify and/or improve (or come up with a good name!), please do. > > Doesn’t seem to be appreciably better than ye olde sleepynaries build in r12. Both are stuck around e59 Hmm, looks like you’re right. I forgot about that build existing, tbh ;) I mainly posted the build because it was giving me decently better and faster results than any form of pyrastrike was, and without relying on LS. There’s one main thing I haven’t been able to test yet, namely the impact of the third Hall of X upgrade in the new HoL boosting line. going by the numbers, theoretically it should give an additional x6.67 boost to HoL.

> *Originally posted by **[GeneralYouri](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9686104):*** > > *Originally posted by **[disastranagant](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685951):*** > > > *Originally posted by **[GeneralYouri](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9685707):*** > > > > > > Due to the new HoL upgrades, I’ve tried my hand at an HoL boosting build. It’s a first draft so if anyone can verify and/or improve (or come up with a good name!), please do. > > > > Doesn’t seem to be appreciably better than ye olde sleepynaries build in r12. Both are stuck around e59 > > Hmm, looks like you’re right. I forgot about that build existing, tbh ;) > I mainly posted the build because it was giving me decently better and faster results than any form of pyrastrike was, and without relying on LS. > > There’s one thing I haven’t been able to test yet, namely the impact of the third Hall of X upgrade in the new HoL boosting line. going by the numbers, theoretically it should give an additional x6.67 boost to HoL. last one is a substantial boost to it, i had 89% on hol til then, but i lacked inch punch power to get there at 450Nod

Anyone who uses Brainfart after the newest update it is best that you replace Fairy 3,2 Rainbow Link with Demon 3,3 Very Bad Guys, You’re welcome.

since there’s isn’t a really good fc gain build here, I’ll post one that’ll get you 100b fc in 12 hours, and 200k spells in 24 it could probably be tweaked to be more accessible at lower gem range Faction Coin Frenzy Range : R7+ Characteristics : makes you wonder why you ever bothered with ls for fc **Note, this build will not earn you gems, it sacrifices production income for fc income, so you’ll need to be higher gem range** Alignment Evil Spells Fairy Chanting ~~-~~ ———- Tier 1 Upgrades Goblin (1,1): Strong Currency Dwarf (1,3): Mining Prodigies Dwarf (1,2): Expert Masonry Titan (1,3): Oversized Legends Tier 2 Upgrades Druid (2,3): Shapeshifting Angel (2,2): Angelic Wisdom Undead (2,2): Corpse Supply Faceless (2,2): Mitosis Tier 3 Upgrades Faceless (3,1): Magical Treasure Goblin (3,1): Goblin Central Bank Fairy (3,3): Swarm of Fairies Demon (3,2): Burning Legion Harlequin Bonus : 729% Bloodline : Faceless Instructions : Since faceless bloodline builds off of mana spent, you will just use fc+tc to get mps to buff faceless bloodline, and tc to gather fc. You could use another spell if necessary to provide income.. Expert Masonry could probably be replaced with Sylvan Treasure Frills if you are having income problems.. I only used it to increase your assistant count, to increase your mps. If someone would like to test it.. I feel it might be better as good, depending on how fast you can get assistants from Holy Crusader, rather than from corpse supply and burning legion.. **and it might make it more applicable to lower gem builds** either way, I think this is much better than the only other fc build on here.. as someone I talked to had that build up at 32 hours and was making only 2-4m fc a combo, and I was making 1.1mfc a tc, after 25 hours…

There is one that gets you the 100B in 3-4 hours. A bit of scrolling.

> *Originally posted by **[Perrin3088](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=16#posts-9686328):*** > > since there’s isn’t a really good fc gain build here, I’ll post one that’ll get you 100b fc in 12 hours, and 200k spells in 24 > > it could probably be tweaked to be more accessible at lower gem range > > Faction Coin Frenzy > Range : R7+ > Characteristics : makes you wonder why you ever bothered with ls for fc > **Note, this build will not earn you gems, it sacrifices production income for fc income, so you’ll need to be higher gem range** > Alignment > Evil > Spells > Fairy Chanting > ~~-~~ ———- > Tier 1 Upgrades > ~~Goblin (1,1): Strong Currency~~ > ~~Dwarf (1,3): Mining Prodigies~~ > Dwarf (1,2): Expert Masonry > ~~Titan (1,3): Oversized Legends~~ > Tier 2 Upgrades > Druid (2,3): Shapeshifting > Angel (2,2): Angelic Wisdom > Undead (2,2): Corpse Supply > Faceless (2,2): Mitosis > Tier 3 Upgrades > Faceless (3,1): Magical Treasure > Goblin (3,1): Goblin Central Bank > Fairy (3,3): Swarm of Fairies > Demon (3,2): Burning Legion > Harlequin Bonus : 729% > Bloodline : Faceless You’ve got 3 upgrades on T1 that just don’t help you at all for earning either FCs or spells cast. Try using Angel (1,3): \_\_\_ Feathers, but after that you’re not going to get great spell helpers – there’s a Druid upgrade that gives you 3 assistants plus more over time, an Undead upgrade that gives you some mana regen and a Fairy upgrade that reduces Farm costs (and therefore gives you about 3 assistants). There are also 2 Elf upgrades that increase the number of FCs you’ll receive.

A passive Build that provides consistent income compared to strike builds. As it slows down approaching R12 it can be pushed to R12 with lots of excavations (over 100 faction exchanges). I wouldn’t use it after 1 Nod (e60) gems. This build supports Spiritual Surge in Reincarnation 14. Use: Short 5-30 minute runs with autocast gathering income. Alignment: Neutral Range: ?-R12 Requires: **Build no Deep Mines or Stone Pillars – Grand Balance has to hit farms, inns or blacksmiths.** Planned Autocasting. Buildings\>1800. about 2400 total mana and 60 mana regeneration once the build is running. The Druid Bloodline variant has no mana requirement (_see note_). Instructions: **Use Undead Heritage once it provides 80+ assistants see note “Spiritual Surge in Reincarnation 14”.** Make enough excavations to get mana regeneration over 60 (for 3 tax collections a pass.) Contingency Autocast Grand Balance and Call to Arms. Priority Autocast Gem Grinder, Fairy Chanting, and Tax collection in that order. Spells 1. Grand Balance 2. Fairy Chanting Tier 1 Upgrades Goblin (1,1) Strong Currency Druid (1,1) Druidic Vocabulary Titan (1,3) Oversized Legends Dwarf (1,3) Mining Prodigies Alternate: Elven (1,3): Sylvan Treasure Frills Tier 2 Upgrades Druid (2,2) Bardic Knowledge Titan (2,3) Cyclopean Strength Faceless (2,1) Gold Synthesis Faceless (2,3) Overgrowth Alternate: Druid (2,3) Shapeshifting, For higher mana regen but less income. Tier 3 Upgrades Fairy (3,3) Swarm of Fairies Dwarf (3,1) Battle Hammers Druid (3,3) Building Jungle Titan (3,3) Titan Obelisk Harlequin bonus: 216% -343% Bloodline: Demon _Alternate Druid Bloodline build_ (Slows down at earlier gem count than Demon, but high mana regeneration.) In Tier 2, take all 3 Druid upgrades and Titan (2,3) Cyclopean Strength. Swap Fairy (3,3) Swarm of Fairies for Dwarf (3,2) Magic Resistance Swap Druid (3,3) Building Jungle for Faceless (3,1) Magical Treasure **Build Stone Pillars, and most importantly, Build a few 100 less farms than you can afford. Farms have to be less productive than Stone Pillars.** Look at tooltips to see individual building income. Contingency Autocast: Grand Balance. Priority Autocast: Fairy Chanting, (Spiritual Surge), Gem Grinder, Call to Arms, Tax Collection. _Spiritual Surge in Reincarnation 14_: Swap Druid (2,2) Bardic Knowledge for Druid (2,1) Earthly Bond. Build Stone Pillars as described in bolded comment above. Add Spiritual Surge to the casting rotation. Contingency: Grand Balance. Priority: Spiritual Surge, Gem Grinder, Call to Arms, Fairy Chanting, Tax Collection. Use Demon, Titan, Druid or Undead bloodline. Undead bloodline swap Fairy (3,3) Swarm of Fairies for Drow (3,2) Professional Assassins or Fairy (3,2) Rainbow Link, possibly Dwarf (3,2) Magic Resistance.

I’m just curious, my math knowledge extends to whatever I remember at the moment from pre calc but it’s always confused me why people insist on putting starmetal alloy into blacksmith builds, It only really serves as a 2X and gives you some extra buildings, I know this causes several self reinforcing effects but I don’t understand how it can hold up against the extra 15X at minimum you’ll get from the other upgrades on that tier.

**TriForce** Range : R12+ if you want to get Call to Arms in there _Characteristics : I started it as a joke, but it might actually be useful – requires **only building Evil Fortresses, Hell Portals and Hall of Legends** _ Alignment Evil Spells Grand Balance Hellfire Blast Tier 1 Upgrades Goblin (1,1): Strong Currency Dwarf (1,3): Mining Prodigies Druid (1,1): Druidic Vocabulary Demon (1,3): Evil Conquerors Tier 2 Upgrades Druid (2,2): Bardic Knowledge Angel (2,2): Angelic Wisdom Titan (2,3): Cyclopean Strength Faceless (2,3): Overgrowth Tier 3 Upgrades Dwarf (3,1): Battlehammers Druid (3,3): Building Jungle Elf(3,2): Elven Luck Demon (3,3): Very Bad Guys _Harlequin Bonus_ : 512% Bloodline : Titan _Instructions : Only build the 3 highest building tiers. Cast Grand Balance, wait 4s, cast HfB and then CtA as soon as you can. Click lots._

I am trying out a build and I wanted to get some feed back on it as I used it in r5 and want to use it in the future once I get bloodlines. **_Halls of Helpers_** Range: Starting at R5+ Alignment: Evil Spells: Hellfire Blast, Night Time Tier 1 Upgrades: Titan (1,3) Goblin (1,1) Dwarf (1,3) Demon (1,3) Tier 2 Upgrades: Demon (2,3) Titan (2,3) Drow (2,2) Faceless (2,3) Tier 3 Upgrades: Demon (3,3) Dwarf (3,1) Drow (3,2) Demon (3,2) Harlequin Bonus: 216% Should have around 1.9k mana and 9 regen. Higher reincarnates = more regen obviously. Every 3 minutes, cast NT+HFB. Don’t forget to spend an excavation or five on exchanges.

**Halls for All** Range: Whenever, but better the later in the game you are Alignment: Evil This is a very powerful Hall of Legend based build for the new update, granting me half of my current gems (23.62 Qid, R11) with a single casting at only a 300% bonus from combo strike. Feel free to help me improve this, as I’m sure I’ve forgotten something. Spells: Combo Strike, Night Time Tier 1: Oversized Legends Mining Prodigies Strong Currency Evil Conquerors Tier 2: Demonic Presence Cyclopean Strength Blood Sacrifices Overgrowth Tier 3: Very Bad Guys Professional Assassins Blade Dance Battlehammers Harlequin Bonus: 216% Bloodline: Demon I recommend, after building up a reasonable combo strike, setting up Combo Strike (1), Night Time (2), Call to Arms (3), and skipping blood frenzy alltogether for some planned autocasting tax collections. Blood Frenzy does not increase the production of your HoL, and thus only gives you about a 40% increase to your production, which can be beaten out by three tax collections very easily.