List of base Merc builds discussion on Kongregate page 30/

Nov 23, 2015 3:20pm

Edenlight 534 posts

Nov 26, 2015 12:17pm

Nilloe 1100 posts

Alrighty here is what I found to be the quickest and powerful way to get to about the Vg range (inspired by Night fairy build on the forums) Night Fairy Range : R3+ , lower gem range (especially on R14+ neutral builds win out due to spiritual surge at the e60+ range) Characteristics : Quick, reliable, low mana requirement (400+1000+1000+200) Alignment Evil Spells Fairy Chanting Night Time Tier 1 Upgrades Goblin (1,1): Strong Currency Dwarf (1,3): Mining Prodigies / Demon (1,3) Evil Conquerors Fairy (1,3): Starmetal Alloys Druid (1,1): Druidic Vocabulary Tier 2 Upgrades Faceless (2,3): Overgrowth / Angel (2,2) Angelic Wisdom \* Fairy (2,1): Fairy Workers Titan (2,3): Cyclopean Strength Drow (2,3): Blood Sacrifices Tier 3 Upgrades Dwarf (3,1): Battlehammers Druid (3,3): Building Jungle Demon (3,2): Burning Legion Undead (3,1): Dead Fields Harlequin Bonus : 729% Bloodline : Fairy (2 Matches) - pick up Angelic Wisdom if total mana (max mana + mana/sec \* 20 sec) is between 2200 and 2600 Instructions: Setup everything you need – cast Call to Arms + Night Time , build some stuff for 10 seconds, cast Fairy Chanting, build more stuff (and get the smith/halls of legends upgrades on the way), cast Tax Collections before combo runs out and Abdicate. Just like any other fairy build the x3 assistants is the cornerstone to getting massive multipliers from it and evil gets another one of those with Dead fields, while also having the best assistant adder in Burning Legion.

Nov 27, 2015 2:34pm

wakko151 6 posts

This is the build I am using right now. I don’t think its the best but it is designed to grow over time but still use burst to gain more and more. Fairy chanting increase assistants and you gain assistants from clicks and buildings. It has gotten me to skip several gem ranges in one go. In the begining i do not build any labrynith and instead focus on pyramids and the top 3 buildings. This saves cash and as soon as combos start rolling in you can build every but Labs and they will build themselves for quite some time. Once it breaks 800-1000 depending on gem range you will want to start prioritizing labs then HOL then Strongholds. I would love some feed back. Blood Line Dwarven Bloodline Tier 1 Goblin – Strong Currency Faceless – Territorial Expanse Dwarf – Battle Hammers Titan – Oversized Legends Tier 2 Titan – Cyclopean Stregth Druid – Building Jungle Faceless – Mitosis Dwarf – Expert Masonary Tier 3 Fairy – Swarm of Fairies Titan – Titan Obelisk Druid – Shape Shifting Dwarf – Bearded Assistants

Nov 27, 2015 9:06pm

themthe 201 posts

@wakko151 I can’t say that I’m an expert at analyzing builds but I see a few issues. The first being that you have a number of your upgrades listed in the wrong tiers. Another issue that I see is that bearded assistants is just not a good boost, it grows over time but it would take a very long time to be worth taking over something else, a day of playtime would only give an 86% boost to assistants, whereas there are several tier 2 upgrades which will immediately give you well over 1000% and over 2000% if you’re far enough. Territorial expanse is also a very questionably useful upgrade as it ultimately doesn’t gain you very many more labyrinths than you would otherwise have unless you are sitting with very little production increase for a very long time, I don’t know how long it takes for it to become useful but there is a reason builds tend to avoid it. And the last one I’m not very sure about for a long run, but dwarven bloodline has never come close to undead that I have observed, granted that runs when I have used either are generally short, but additionally with the number of other assistant boosts the assistant gain from the bloodline could possibly be replaced by either a production boost from something like titan, or a mana regen boost

Dec 6, 2015 3:11pm

MaximumRide03 3 posts

Now, this may not help much, but I personally think some of the lists are not that good. I tried a few and not many worked for me except for Pyrastrike, your first one. I kinda made my own that may not work for you but it works for me, I became Evil, added Moon Blessing as my first spell, added a few elves ones. I cant remember the name of the one that total amount of clicks gives magic regeneration – that’s why I didn’t use Angel upgrades exept for takes spells down by 1OO (auto clickers on (the Os instead of zeros)) and the double duration, the rest elven. I use auto clicker so magic comes naturally with Elves and faction coins are used for merc upgrades. This is my build and it works well. (You also get a secret trophy if you follow my steps similarly :) ). If this helped, hooray, if not sorry. This was an experimental build but turned out to be my favorite. Hope this helped.

Dec 6, 2015 3:51pm

playmoarnow 53 posts

> *Originally posted by **[MaximumRide03](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=30#posts-9949163):*** > > This was an experimental build but turned out to be my favorite. You can make any build you want, that’s the idea of the game, but we tried to optimize each build as much as possible. Lightning Forge (Storm Fairy to some) and IGOT and Innkeeper are some of the strongest builds that get used. The wiki page has a bunch of them, some work better than others but I find it hard to actually get rid of a build because somewhere, someone uses that build. Also the game has changed a whole lot since this thread was made, many upgrades got buffed and nerfed. So if you want to have your build optimized further, you can post it here and the less useful upgrades will be weeded out.

Dec 8, 2015 9:24pm

Xelkelvos 11 posts

> *Originally posted by **[Nilloe](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=30#posts-9915660):*** > > Alrighty here is what I found to be the quickest and powerful way to get to about the Vg range (inspired by Night fairy build on the forums) > > Night Fairy > Range : R3+ , lower gem range (especially on R14+ neutral builds win out due to spiritual surge at the e60+ range) > Characteristics : Quick, reliable, low mana requirement (400+1000+1000+200) Switching out Overgrowth for Shapeshifters seems to squeeze out a few extra TC casts during the spell combo while also increasing the rate at which it goes off if you want it to run a few times in a row. I dunno if the loss in production outweighs the speed or not though.

Dec 9, 2015 1:22am

Nilloe 1100 posts

> *Originally posted by **[Xelkelvos](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=30#posts-9956241):*** > > *Originally posted by **[Nilloe](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=30#posts-9915660):*** > > > > Alrighty here is what I found to be the quickest and powerful way to get to about the Vg range (inspired by Night fairy build on the forums) > > > > Night Fairy > > Range : R3+ , lower gem range (especially on R14+ neutral builds win out due to spiritual surge at the e60+ range) > > Characteristics : Quick, reliable, low mana requirement (400+1000+1000+200) > > Switching out Overgrowth for Shapeshifters seems to squeeze out a few extra TC casts during the spell combo while also increasing the rate at which it goes off if you want it to run a few times in a row. I dunno if the loss in production outweighs the speed or not though. Hmmm well I think it would produce more mana than angelic wisdom during FC, but it would also cut your normal mana regen in half due to FC’s shorter duration which makes it weaker than Angelic Wisdom. But I think you’re not suggesting it as an alternative to that but rather as a general idea in which case I have to say: it’s an awful idea: 1) This build shouldn’t run more than 1 combo – that’s not what it is designed to do 2) More TC cast doesn’t really do shit compared to a times 15-25 multiplier (unless you multiply your TC by that multiplier which shapeshifting absolutely does not) 3) You lose out on another Harlequin bonus

Dec 10, 2015 2:41am

NiraTheCuteLoli 1036 posts

So… I’ve made a labystrike build for R18+ which keeps about the same production as Lightning Forge (atleast according my test). Name: Nirastrike Requirements: All Elf challenges Aligement: Neutral Spells: Moon blessing and Lightning Strike Bloodline: Undead Tier 1 Territorial Expanse, Faceless 1.1 Druidic Volcabulary, Druid 1.1 Oversized Legends, Titan 1.3 or Mining Prodiges, Dwarf 1.3 Strong Currency, Goblin 1.1 Tier 2 Cyclopean Strength, Titan 2.3 Bardic Knowledge, Druid 2.2 Earthly Bond, Druid 2.1 Gold Synthesis, Faceless 1.1 Tier 3 Rainbow Link, Fairy 3.2 or Hivemind, Faceless 3.3 Titan Obelisks, Titan 3.3 Battlehammers, Dwarf 3.1 Building Jungle, Druid 3.3 I don’t feel like making a list of what R use what upgrades. Before you get all elf challenges, the build is still useable with Fairy Chanting or Diamond Pickaxe but not as good. Titan bloodline is also viable but not as good unless your undead bloodstream is alot lower that titan bloodstream. To calculate the power of undead bloodline, use ( ( Assistants after bloodline ) / ( assistants before bloodline ) )^3 for a general idead of how it is. Feel free to sugest improvements.

Dec 10, 2015 3:07am

Nilloe 1100 posts

Dec 10, 2015 3:08am

NiraTheCuteLoli 1036 posts

You use Swarm of faries? Because for me it is about 57x mutiplier. I’m at R22 and get about 36 assistants before bloodline, with then jumps up to 139 with bloodline which gives me (3.8^3)x from undead bloodline. Edit to future comment You would actually compare (((assistants with SoF)/(assistants without SoF))^3)x(titan bl)x(bloodstream) and (((assistants with undead bl)/(assistants without undead bl))^3)x(bloodstream)x(Rainbow link)

Dec 10, 2015 3:16am

Nilloe 1100 posts

Dec 10, 2015 10:12am

why_amihere 1826 posts

At R26 on that build and the way you’re calculating it, Undead Bloodline should be roughly a x372 multiplier on a short run. This comes from Assistant Union series of upgrades, Faceless 1,1 and Titan 2,3 and general production. This would give you: (y/x)^3 \* ((1 + y/100)/(1 + x/100))^3, where y = new assistants and x = old assistants (at R26, new = 160, old = 41). However, you’re missing the fact that the Moon Blessing Elven Luck clicks are based on ‘building production plus production of 1 assistant’, and buildings are likely to contribute a lot more production than a single assistant in this build if you took Mining Prodigies, so really it should be: (y/x)^2 \* ((1 + y/100)/(1 + x/100))^3, which gives x95.5. Unless your Undead Bloodstream is reasonably close to your Titan Bloodstream, you are probably better off just taking Titan.

Dec 10, 2015 10:35am

NiraTheCuteLoli 1036 posts

Dec 11, 2015 6:10am

Nilloe 1100 posts

> *Originally posted by **[NiraTheCuteLoli](/forums/8945/topics/535779?page=30#posts-9961158):*** > > I’m not missing the fact that Elven luck on picks on one of them, I instead assume it’s 100 times weaker, and think of it as a x75 multiplier. But thanks for the information. Well elven luck was nerfed to 5% chance so it’s more like a x4.75 multiplier? Talking about spell suggestions then: Fairy Chanting would be about a x216 multiplier (with 100 assistants) Moon blessing would then have to be around x50 to be better Diamond Pickaxe can certainly rival both with high excavations Since this build has no absurd mana regen God’s hand is out of the question

Dec 11, 2015 7:01am

NiraTheCuteLoli 1036 posts

Fairy chanting is only a little more than x27? With assistant union things about x81? And if we are looking at how the chance of elven luck affects things, you would probably average at around 10 hits per moon blessing (300 clicks under 20 sec with 5% chance ,about 15 but I’ll go with 10 to make a little weaker to make sure I don’t overestimate it). At 100 assistants it will do aroud x75 per hit added on the 1000% of MB’s normal production boost which would make it around x7500 above the production of the combo with no MB.(I’ll go back and count some more when I have more power in my phone.)

Dec 11, 2015 7:27am

Nilloe 1100 posts