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Hi ALL !
I don’t remember who said it, but this reminds me of a quote: “The current generation will live to see immortality become possible, but be too poor to afford it.”
It’s really hard to say. Among my family, general body rot began to set in in their 80s, and living past the point where I’m physically sound seems like a bad idea. But with replacement organs grown from stem cells and cybernetics making huge advancements every decade, there’s a very decent chance that my generation will live much, much longer, in a much higher state of health. And I want as much time as I can get. There’s an entire world out there to see.
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No more than 70years of age
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Tonly, as you get older you get tired. You find you are not scared of death anymore. My mother is 95 years old now. I really don't worry about it anymore and you shouldn't either. You are young and will have a long life, take care of it. Punisher, I just turned 70. I do look forward to seeing my grandchildren become adults.
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I don't know/care about the age.
Plus, sudden death is a thing anyway.
All I want is to make it worth all those breaths.
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> *Originally posted by **[FFT_LostHope](/forums/9/topics/1764876?page=1#12912276)**:*
> I don't know/care about the age.
> Plus, sudden death is a thing anyway.
> All I want is to make it worth all those breaths.
Well I hope you don't experience such an unpleasantness anytime soon. Life is preciouse.
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Given the ability to replace parts as they wear out, allowing for good health and a natural long life in my genetic history, I'd like to put my life expectancy at around 200.
I would rather live for 400 or 500 years, but realistically, with the pace of biotech, even 200 is pushing it a bit.
So, that's the age I would like to reach.
Unless I have an accident or serious disease, I'm likely to live past 100 anyway; that's the trend for women in my family, but I don't feel that will be long enough to do everything I'd wish to do.
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Vika, my mother is 95. She is healthy but her eyesite is almost gone and she doesn't hear very well.
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Exactly my point. Replace the eyes (Argus array, or other retinal prosthesis) , replace the ears (cochlear implant) and those problems are gone.
You would have to augment the joints of the skeleton as well, as they degrade and become fragile as we age. There are already several dozen ways to do that, depending on what part of the joint failed.
If you have the cash, the contacts, and the willingness to replace parts of your original body as they fail, then barring catastrophic injury or illness, your lifespan is then limited by three things:
* The capabilities of the replacement bits at the time replacement is necessary
* The availability of replacement bits for that specific part
* Your willingness to go on living
If there are replacement bits available for every part of the body, then age as a limiter on lifespan, becomes meaningless.
I limit my preferred lifespan to 200 years, mostly because replacements for a lot of systems either are not readily available or are still too deeply flawed for long-term use. Realistically, the capability for endless life won't develop within the next few hundred years, so we'll be living alongside the advancements, replacing some bits and having to live with other failures - until something vital goes, that cannot at the time be properly replaced.
So, 200 as a guesstimated length of life possible, is where I hoist my flag.
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> *Originally posted by **[jhco50](/forums/9/topics/1764876?page=1#12913437)**:*
> Well I hope you don't experience such an unpleasantness anytime soon. Life is preciouse.
Thank you. I hope the same for you as well :')
> *Originally posted by **[vikaTae](/forums/9/topics/1764876?page=1#12918210)**:*
I would rather live for 400 or 500 years
Why and for what?
Anything should have an end, that's what gives meaning to "time".
Don't get me wrong, but I think life makes much sense when it has to end.
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I wanna live to 2101 so I can say I was alive in 3 centuries.
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> *Originally posted by **[FFT_LostHope](/forums/9/topics/1764876?page=1#12922960)**:*
> Why and for what?
A mixture of lack of time to do everything I, and those I love wish to do, and a very strong desire to see what happens to my field of expertise down the line. Living to see it, to contribute to it, as the relatively naescent field of applied cybernetics matures. Cognitive neuroscience, biomechanics, the melding of biology and technology; I have no wish to shuffle from this world till I've truly seen what it evolves into.
Plus of course, there are too many private life activities desirable to fit into my remaining 'traditionally healthy' years, so extending those years becomes desirable - and after all, I'm in an ideal position to do so, so why not?
> Anything should have an end, that's what gives meaning to "time".
> Don't get me wrong, but I think life makes much sense when it has to end.
It will. The universe is still a closed system, and true immortality is not going to occur, due to entropy. Not to mention all the cognitive problems that would be inherent to any truly long life, no matter the method of live continuation used.
A few hundred years, perhaps a thousand, would likely be the practical limit withoutlosing every trace of what you once were. I'd rather not take that route either.
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> *Originally posted by **[ajx30009](/forums/9/topics/1764876?page=1#12923144)**:*
> I wanna live to 2101 so I can say I was alive in 3 centuries.
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LOL! Awesome
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> *Originally posted by **[vikaTae](/forums/9/topics/1764876?page=1#12922203)**:*
> Exactly my point. Replace the eyes (Argus array, or other retinal prosthesis) , replace the ears (cochlear implant) and those problems are gone.
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> You would have to augment the joints of the skeleton as well, as they degrade and become fragile as we age. There are already several dozen ways to do that, depending on what part of the joint failed.
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> If you have the cash, the contacts, and the willingness to replace parts of your original body as they fail, then barring catastrophic injury or illness, your lifespan is then limited by three things:
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> * The capabilities of the replacement bits at the time replacement is necessary
> * The availability of replacement bits for that specific part
> * Your willingness to go on living
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> If there are replacement bits available for every part of the body, then age as a limiter on lifespan, becomes meaningless.
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> I limit my preferred lifespan to 200 years, mostly because replacements for a lot of systems either are not readily available or are still too deeply flawed for long-term use. Realistically, the capability for endless life won't develop within the next few hundred years, so we'll be living alongside the advancements, replacing some bits and having to live with other failures - until something vital goes, that cannot at the time be properly replaced.
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> So, 200 as a guesstimated length of life possible, is where I hoist my flag.
She is healthy, but she could not undergo such operations.
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I want to live until I am bored to death. Physcial pain and immobility can be managed. When getting up in the morn, for an extended period of time, to see what is gonna happen that day no longer gives me a rush, then it's probably a good idea to check out ... on my own terms.
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I'm really banking my retirement on getting shot and dumped in a ditch before I'm 40, so that?
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A thousand, at least.
Go fund age reversal
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Well, I suppose when my body and my mind is in a huge deteriorated state. I don't want to be a burden to anyone.
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I used to say I want to die young, but since my life went pretty well, I've found my love and some really huge plans, I'd like to live as long as it's possible for me
The worst thing of long living (if it's hard affordable for average people) is to see your friends/relatives/love/pets dying as the time goes by
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When it's your time to go, it's your time to go.
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A lot of people say that immortality would be torture, but screw that, you can definitely find ways to fill time. The main trick is to disconnect yourself from all strong relationships, and only have a constant stream of superficial relationships.
But in reality, there is no target age. I don't fear death. If I was told I'm dying in 24 hours by some magical power, I'd literally probably just treat it like any other day, and if I live to be 100, that's cool too.
I want to live until I can no longer enjoy life. There is no point to life if you are unhappy.
But I would like to live long enough for fully immersive virtual reality technology to be a thing.
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> *Originally posted by **[bobby71983](/forums/9/topics/1764876?page=1#13099771)**:*
> But I would like to live long enough for fully immersive virtual reality technology to be a thing.
I'll certainly drink to that one. Heck, even mostly realistic sensory immersion would be a great thing to see.
> A lot of people say that immortality would be torture, but screw that, you can definitely find ways to fill time. The main trick is to disconnect yourself from all strong relationships, and only have a constant stream of superficial relationships.
Meh, it's not so much that, but you've got a good strategy going there - if you can survive long term without meaning in your relationships anyway. The real problem is, you live long enough, you are going to run out of room in your brain for new connections that don't use existing ones for all of their structure. In other words, you run out of the ability to change or grow as a person, and just keep recycling old patterns of personality.
There are lots of technical reasons for this, but essentially, once a pathway is laid down in your brain, it's never torn up again. Eventualy there won't be any new paths to form, no more potential to reach.
If anyone's truly serious about 'living forever', they'll have to abandon their humanity to do so. That's a huge leap, and one many of us, (including me, the local postergirl for transhumanism) just aren't ready to truly consider, much less take.
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I honestly don't think many of us (and I'm no exception) would take life as seriously if we had the capability of living forever.
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