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I’m not even surprised it was removed, satire is unappreciated.

It is true, however, that everyone’s ideologies progress. Today’s conservatives and right-wingers, yep, many of them won’t change their mind on same-sex marriage. However, some will.

Furthermore, the younger conservatives and right-wingers are all for same-sex marriage. People under 30 years are progressive in this instance mostly regardless of ideologies. I’m not sure how old you all are, but the people of my age, reaching adulthood or just having reached it, are all for same-sex marriage.

I met nearly two years ago a prominent right-winger at my school, and my first thought once he started rambling on was, “Oh great…!” Nevertheless, he actually is all for same-sex marriage. Why? Because as he puts it himself, he is all for liberty. He does not believe the government should be in one’s life, and that includes marriage, obviously. Why should the government be in your marriage? They should not be. Why should the government tell you not to marry for a reason that is rather frivolous? They should not.

It honestly gives me hope. The Conservatives (and by capitalising the C I’m referring to the party) in the UK are all for same-sex marriage; the right-wing party here in New Zealand is all for same-sex marriage and it’ll be legalised in 2013. The Conservatives in Canada will never do anything about same-sex marriage… as it is already legal. In the Nordic countries the same occurs. Soon enough Australia will be passing legislation I bet, as the current government under Julia Gillard is all for same-sex marriage. Prominent right-wingers and right-wing parties across the western world are becoming more and more progressive in this instance, and there’s nothing American conservatives can do about that except adapt.

 
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Originally posted by JaumeBG:

and there’s nothing American conservatives can do about that except adapt.

Ye of such misplaced faith. They won’t adapt, even if every other country on the planet adapts. As our resident far-right nut puts it “These countries have different cultures; nothing they do reflects what we will do.”

 
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The Ugly American ish

 
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I support every single bit of what GameCrazyKid said. I couldn’t have said it any better. I do not support gay marriage.

 
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Yes! Oh man, this is going to be great.

Originally posted by Kwadwo195:

I support every single bit of what GameCrazyKid said. I couldn’t have said it any better. I do not support gay marriage.

Okay, that’s good, because now I can that you’re an ignorant fuck who knows next to nothing about homosexuality in nature, or in other religions, or marriage and its reasons for being, and who wants to run people’s private lives based on their own biogeted belief system, all without making nearly as many assumptions as I could have.

Also this.

Man, you have no idea how long it’s been since anyone, let alone me, on this thread could respond in such an agressive way to someone on gay marriage. I-it’s actually kind of theraputic in a way.

 
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Thanks tenco for this.

I don’t know how anyone could look at these happy beautiful couples and say that their love is not as worthy as a heterosexuals.

 
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Originally posted by FlabbyWoofWoof:

Thanks tenco for this.

You’re welcome, I actually wanted to share it a few days ago, but I forgot was waiting for a more fitting time to use it.

I don’t know how anyone could look at these happy beautiful couples and say that their love is not as worthy as a heterosexuals.

Are you my mother?

 
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Originally posted by tenco1:

Yes! Oh man, this is going to be great.

Originally posted by Kwadwo195:

I support every single bit of what GameCrazyKid said. I couldn’t have said it any better. I do not support gay marriage.

Okay, that’s good, because now I can say that you’re an ignorant fuck who knows next to nothing about homosexuality in nature, or in other religions, or marriage and its reasons for being, and who wants to run people’s private lives based on their own biogeted belief system, all without making nearly as many assumptions as I could have.

Also this.

Man, you have no idea how long it’s been since anyone, let alone me, on this thread could respond in such an agressive way to someone on gay marriage. I-it’s actually kind of theraputic in a way.

LOL, tenco….I think ya speak for a whoooooooole lof o ppl.
I’ve never quite understood just what it is that causes a diverse society to hate itself so much when it is that very diversity that makes it strong & interesting.

 
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Originally posted by JaumeBG:

jhco, as previously stated, you have no credibility because a) all your information comes from hear-say sources or “something you read”; b) you spout exactly what Fox News spouts; I don’t think I need to expand this point further.

Let’s look at facts again. Sorry, I know you don’t like this, jhco; however, I like the truth. Dictionary definitions.

bigot (n): a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race.

Are you intolerant of ideas other than your own, especially on religion, politics or race? Yes, particularly politics and race. You are intolerant of ideas such as egalitarianism, progressivism, or marriage equality.

ignorant (adj): lacking in knowledge or education; unenlightened.

Are you lacking in knowledge in, e.g., the definition of the word “socialism”, a word you constantly use in a misinformed manner? Yes.

shallow (adj): lacking depth; superficial: a mind that is not narrow but shallow.

Are you shallow in, e.g., marriage equality and its advantageous repercussions to society? Yes.

By your own words, here, jhco.

I said WHAT? I think you mistake me for someone else. Why do you guys have to keep insulting me while I’m gone? I find that low.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

I said WHAT?

Which one, because from the quote, you said a lot of things.

I think you mistake me for someone else.

Nope. No, he’s made it pretty clear that he’s talking about you.

Well that, and you have basically said these things. More than once, too.

Why do you guys have to keep insulting me while I’m gone? I find that low.

… It’s been a week since that post was made.

 
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Are you my mother?

I’d like to say yes, but my testicles say no.

Anyway, it’s very easy behind a computer screen to forget who we are talking about when it comes to this issue, and those photos put the real face on what we are fighting for….equality for human beings!
I’d like to meet any anti-gay marriage proponent that could look those couples in the eyes and tell them that their love does not meet the ‘requirements’ for marriage.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

So I’m not here for awhile,

That’s not the point, it was that it’s been a week, and a week ago, you were around when that post was made.

the other conservatives or trying to work to support you people on welfare,

>implying I’m on welfare

Wait, aren’t you retired?

and all the while we are gone you are playing pattycake on your buttocks and patting yourselves on the back.

There have been very few posts here lately, and the oldest one of the day is against gay marriage.

Why? Because we weren’t here to defend ourselves and you all took advantage of that to hurl insults.

You don’t get Internet, do you?

It’s been days since the last post was made here, and before that you and the other conservative were there to “defend” yourselves, you just didn’t post.

You guys are such a piece of work.

Don’t forget wanting a literal pox on people who don’t agree with you.

Yes I’m still on about that.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:
Originally posted by JaumeBG:

jhco, as previously stated, you have no credibility because a) all your information comes from hear-say sources or “something you read”; b) you spout exactly what Fox News spouts; I don’t think I need to expand this point further.

Let’s look at facts again. Sorry, I know you don’t like this, jhco; however, I like the truth. Dictionary definitions.

bigot (n): a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race.

Are you intolerant of ideas other than your own, especially on religion, politics or race? Yes, particularly politics and race. You are intolerant of ideas such as egalitarianism, progressivism, or marriage equality.

ignorant (adj): lacking in knowledge or education; unenlightened.

Are you lacking in knowledge in, e.g., the definition of the word “socialism”, a word you constantly use in a misinformed manner? Yes.

shallow (adj): lacking depth; superficial: a mind that is not narrow but shallow.

Are you shallow in, e.g., marriage equality and its advantageous repercussions to society? Yes.

By your own words, here, jhco.

I said WHAT? I think you mistake me for someone else. Why do you guys have to keep insulting me while I’m gone? I find that low.

Eeeerrrrrrr…in case ya haven’t noticed, we “insult” ya right to yer face….DUH.
Only, what we say isn’t insults…we assess the ideology YOU PUT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

What we are saying is that YOUR IDEOLOGY is that of bigotry, shallow-mindedness (even NARROW), and so very often apparently a product of “ignorance” because YOU so easily opt to IGNORE the many bit of information offered to YOU. Which, is in-of-itself its very own definition of narrow-mindedness that hugely supports an egocentricity kind of thinking.

The very ARROGANCE that YOU assume there is ANYONE on this forum that YOU are “working to support” is far more egregious than any imagined insult ya think we be a hurlin’ yer way.

NOW, why dontchya say something about the OP?
Ya know, about Gay marriage?
I’d think that after a few days absent some real challenges to YOUR bigotry on the issue,,,
ya’d have some real spleen to vent.
PLEASE….don’t forget to toss in some “Obamanation” shit….for good measure.
LOL

 
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I’ve said about all there is to say of importance. I guess now you lefties will be patting yourselves on the back and the conservatives will have to pay for the casts when you pop a joint.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

I’ve said about all there is to say of importance.

Then why are you still here? You’ve just said you’ve made every argument you can, and each has been countered, there’s nothing left for you here.

I guess now you lefties will be patting yourselves on the back

And I’m sure that you’re reading these post as well as you cataracts will allow you.

Yes, I said cataracts, I can’t think of any other reasonable… Reason why you aren’t actually reading what is being infrequenctly posted here.

and the conservatives will have to pay for the casts when you pop a joint.

Okay, are you trying to prove a point? Because you’re arrogance and condensation, condensationance (it’s a word now), hasn’t changed at all, and it honestly seems like you’re trying to give people a demonstration of just how bull-headed and unwilling to change your, at this point just short of facist, views.

Actually, isn’t Karma still working? And Vika’s… Well she’s science, and that pays good money, I have no goddamn idea what flabby, or Omega do, I think Juame’s unemployed, but only because he’s still in school, and BSG is the only one I know one here who is actually on welfare for disability.

 
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Jhco, I agree with you that this thread has become stale, no new arguments have come in and people aren’t persuaded even if they do.
But I would like to say that you should stop with seeing this as a purely liberal versus conservative thing…(I’ll admit that I have occasionally used the term ‘conservative’ to define a group of people that oppose gay marriage).
Saying things like this

The lefties have nothing more to add except insults and name calling, which is their forte when they don’t have a real argument.
really only shows that you have no desire or wish to discuss this issue civily, that you too are just as bad at ad hominen attacks as those you accuse of doing to you.
I do understand that these issues are emotive and that not everyone here is treating you with respect, but take a breath and stay on topic, even if you think they don’t.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

In your mind they have all be countered, but in reality, they haven’t.

Examples being?

I happened by because the thread keeps popping to the top every time one of you makes another ignorant comment as if you have changed the world.

And this

Originally posted by Kwadwo195:

I support every single bit of what GameCrazyKid said. I couldn’t have said it any better. I do not support gay marriage.

is the post that bumped the thread most recently.

And again, if you have nothing constructive to add to this thread, why do you keep coming here?

And no, your reasoning is not a good answer, because when I quoted the post that bumped this thread, that countered your reasoning about how “we make the thread pop up because of ignorant comments” because it was supporting your side.

Insults aren’t going to work youngun’.

Because insult only work when you do them.

You would like to make out that I am arrogant or condescending

And you would like to think that everyone on the left sid of the political spectrum is a moralles heathen who just wants to watch the world burn.

Only this time, I have reasonable reasons to believe what I do about your character, because claiming that gay marriage makes America forfit their moralsand by talking down on people about how wrong their opinions are, because yours are the right ones is arrogance, and saying things like

Insults aren’t going to work youngun’.
is condesending.

but let’s be honest, this thread has become stale with the arguments never changing.

Partially because the thread has reached burnout, where nothing new can be discussed, except for new individual events.

The lefties have nothing more to add except insults and name calling, which is their forte when they don’t have a real argument.

And the righties have nothing more to add except mudslinging and desperate, near blind accusations about moral integrity, which is their forte when they don’t have a real argument.

Both sides have their flaws, and they’re often very similar. Deal with it.

i don’t know if they are working and really don’t care at this point.

Then don’t bring up a psuedo-argument like you do.

Are you working?

No, partially because I’m not really qualified for any kind of job, and am in the same kind of situation Jaume is in, minus living in New Zealand.

 
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jhco, that day you said you weren’t a bigot, nor were you ignorant or shallow. You said you were tired of hearing those words. I went and defined them, and you fit all of their dictionary definitions. From hereafter, disagree with Dictionary.com and the Oxford English Dictionary, not with me on issues such as these.

You were there to defend yourselves, this topic just died until a few hours ago because you conservatives again had no rational arguments to base yourselves on, so you all shut up and stopped replying to this topic for a few days, as per usual.

Insults aren’t going to work youngun’.

I did not insult you. You used those words, and I defined them for you. You meet the literal definition for all three of them.

I’ve said about all there is to say of importance. I guess now you lefties will be patting yourselves on the back and the conservatives will have to pay for the casts when you pop a joint.

Again, you conservatives have not a single rational argument. You will ignore this, but give me one rational argument. Give me one argument against same-sex marriage. There is literally none. All arguments are logical fallacies, another concept of which the definition you are unaware of.

For the last 30 or so pages all you’ve said, jhco, is that you can’t make a counterargument to our arguments. All you do is whine about how we do this or that, but you present no logical argument against same-sex marriage. Not one. Nor do you even try, for that matter.

You would like to make out that I am arrogant or condescending

Those are not insults, especially if you can’t disprove them. You cannot.

this thread has become stale with the arguments never changing.

Because social conservatives are incapable of making one, just one, counterargument to same-sex marriage.

The lefties have nothing more to add except insults and name calling, which is their forte when they don’t have a real argument.

“Arrogant”, “condescending”, “bigot”, etc., are not insults at all. Ironically enough, you have a very liberal interpretation of the word “insult”.

The reason I’m not working is because I’ll be starting university next year. I have said this before, but jhco has forgotten as it would not fit his agenda of classic conservative condescension of the use of the word “unemployed” or variants thereof. jhco, for your information, most students do not have jobs. Why? Because they’re studying. I thought you’d understand that.

 
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So you are calling me a bigot because I won’t be tolerate of your beliefs, yet you are intolerat of mine. I would guess that makes you a bigot…and a hypocrite.

 
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Originally posted by jhco50:

So you are calling me a bigot because I won’t be tolerate of your beliefs,

Not just his, but yes.

yet you are intolerat of mine. I would guess that makes you a bigot…

Yeah, kinda.

and a hypocrite.

Well technically, he would be a hypocrite if he outright said that it was inherently bad to be bigoted, but he was so himself. In this case, he’s just saying that you are, regardless of his personal stance.

 
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When will you deliver on that whole thing about having at least one, just one, rational, non-fallacious logical argument against same-sex marriage? Or should we make the assumption that there aren’t any?

Again:

For the last 30 or so pages all you’ve said, jhco, is that you can’t make a counterargument to our arguments. All you do is whine about how we do this or that, but you present no logical argument against same-sex marriage. Not one. Nor do you even try, for that matter.

 
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Has the reason people dislike Gay’s changed since I’ve last visited here yet?

 
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Originally posted by MidnightWerewolf:

Has the reason people dislike Gay’s changed since I’ve last visited here yet?

Nope.